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paragon1 posted:Like your fancy year 3 Tootsuki diploma isn't going to be very impressive if a thousand other people have it instead of ten. you and other posters seem to be misinterpreting the end goal of tootsuki's new management. they aren't trying to send their graduates out to the world to spread their talents anymore, hence the canceling of the various study abroad programs. they're trying to tap into a source of labor to funnel into their own franchises. that's why azami's intent on drilling specific recipes into students' heads: those are the same recipes they'll be cooking when they graduate and immediately find a job as line chef at a sponsored elite-ten/Azami signature restaurant when you look at it that way, reputation and exclusivity don't matter anymore, and azami's overall plan makes a lot more sense
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paragon1 posted:Like your fancy year 3 Tootsuki diploma isn't going to be very impressive if a thousand other people have it instead of ten. It would help if we had seen non-council graduates running respectable restaurants. They even said recently that it's not just cooking skill that gets you on the council. Just have someone come in, be all "Look, I didn't make the council during my school days. No, I wasn't a head chef right off the bat. I'm head chef now, and my restaurant is a good one."
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Dec 8, 2015 21:51
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They say that Tootsuki graduating classes barely get to the double digits. It's possible that sometimes ONLY the Elite 10 graduate.
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Dec 8, 2015 22:48
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Neo_Crimson posted:They say that Tootsuki graduating classes barely get to the double digits. It's possible that sometimes ONLY the Elite 10 graduate. Sometimes not even then, remember that Souma's dad dropped out before graduating.
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Dec 9, 2015 00:26
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Not all of the elite 10 are in the same year either
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Dec 9, 2015 00:41
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Pretty sure none of Shinomiya's friends was E10 and they all managed successful restaurants so I guess there's your example?
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Kyte posted:Pretty sure none of Shinomiya's friends was E10 and they all managed successful restaurants so I guess there's your example? If you mean Hinako and all those other dudes at the Summer Camp, no they were all Elite Ten at one point.
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Not all of them have been confirmed to have been in the elite 10, but you might as well assume that it's the case. The only people from the training arc / etoile that were confirmed to have been the elite 10 were all 1st (shinomiya) or 2nd seat (Hinako, Mizuhara) leaving out the sushi guy and the weird italian guy
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gwrtheyrn posted:Not all of them have been confirmed to have been in the elite 10, but you might as well assume that it's the case. The only people from the training arc / etoile that were confirmed to have been the elite 10 were all 1st (shinomiya) or 2nd seat (Hinako, Mizuhara) leaving out the sushi guy and the weird italian guy That's why they need to say Hitoshi (sushi guy) and/or Donato (weird Italian guy) weren't elite 10 during their time. Because as it is now, the series seems to be saying "If ya ain't Elite 10, ya ain't poo poo."
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Dec 9, 2015 02:08
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Actually while rereading the chapters I realized that I needed to revise my rankings. 1; Rindou 2: Alice 3: Hanako 4: Alice's Mom Can't believe I forgot Hanako.
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DolphinCop posted:you and other posters seem to be misinterpreting the end goal of tootsuki's new management. they aren't trying to send their graduates out to the world to spread their talents anymore, hence the canceling of the various study abroad programs. they're trying to tap into a source of labor to funnel into their own franchises. that's why azami's intent on drilling specific recipes into students' heads: those are the same recipes they'll be cooking when they graduate and immediately find a job as line chef at a sponsored elite-ten/Azami signature restaurant Okay yeah, that does make a lot more sense.
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Neo_Crimson posted:They say that Tootsuki graduating classes barely get to the double digits. It's possible that sometimes ONLY the Elite 10 graduate. They meant double digit percentages of the original class, which is apparently like 500 people a year.
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DolphinCop posted:you and other posters seem to be misinterpreting the end goal of tootsuki's new management. they aren't trying to send their graduates out to the world to spread their talents anymore, hence the canceling of the various study abroad programs. they're trying to tap into a source of labor to funnel into their own franchises. that's why azami's intent on drilling specific recipes into students' heads: those are the same recipes they'll be cooking when they graduate and immediately find a job as line chef at a sponsored elite-ten/Azami signature restaurant I think people getting confused as to what the end goal is is part of the point. At first glance, it sounds like a more forgiving system, but if you think about it, you get as above: it's really just a system to make line cooks for a select few.
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Now that I think about it, why does Azami even want 1000 line cooks each year when he thinks gourmet cuisine should only be enjoyed by a select few?
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oh jay posted:Now that I think about it, why does Azami even want 1000 line cooks each year when he thinks gourmet cuisine should only be enjoyed by a select few? There are a lot of fine dining restaurants in the world.
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Angry Grimace posted:They meant double digit percentages of the original class, which is apparently like 500 people a year. It's definitely not 10% from first year to graduation, more like 10% year to year with nobody dropping out their third year, so like 500 first years, 50 second years, and 5 third years. With that kind of reduction, almost all of the graduates would have to have been elite 10 at some point, otherwise they wouldn't have made it to 3rd year--theoretically half or more of the elite 10 should be 3rd years. http://bato.to/reader#a44e1d56d554e52e_7
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oh jay posted:Now that I think about it, why does Azami even want 1000 line cooks each year when he thinks gourmet cuisine should only be enjoyed by a select few? They're not really cooking themselves if they're just following the exact recipes and orders of the cooking elite.
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gwrtheyrn posted:It's definitely not 10% from first year to graduation, more like 10% year to year with nobody dropping out their third year, so like 500 first years, 50 second years, and 5 third years. With that kind of reduction, almost all of the graduates would have to have been elite 10 at some point, otherwise they wouldn't have made it to 3rd year--theoretically half or more of the elite 10 should be 3rd years. I don't think the things that they said in Chapter 4 are all that relevant because a lot of that got retconned as the series caught on and the authors figured out that the logistics made no sense. It's the same reason why Shinomiya ends up working as a line chef at a random dump when he leaves despite the apparent super awesomeness of the school. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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It's super-awesome for Japan. France doesn't give a poo poo and probably has their own school anyway. I mean, there aren't that many foreigners if we assume the school is world famous, so it makes more sense to assume it's just Japan's best culinary institute and other countries have their own equivalents.
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I sincerely want to see where this whole “center/elite 10/Azami deciding the type of education everyone else gets” goes, because holy poo poo, either he wants to destroy whatever prestige Tootsuki has or he's a monumental moron. Probably both.
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't think the things that they said in Chapter 4 are all that relevant because a lot of that got retconned as the series caught on and the authors figured out that the logistics made no sense. I can't remember anything to contradict it though. The only times I remember them talking about their graduation rates are in chapter 1, chapter 4, and whatever chapter they introduce the people at the training camp.
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gwrtheyrn posted:I can't remember anything to contradict it though. The only times I remember them talking about their graduation rates are in chapter 1, chapter 4, and whatever chapter they introduce the people at the training camp. I think it's less about being contradictory and more about being hella outlandish.
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Wark Say posted:I sincerely want to see where this whole “center/elite 10/Azami deciding the type of education everyone else gets” goes, because holy poo poo, either he wants to destroy whatever prestige Tootsuki has or he's a monumental moron. i think it's mostly the former. he doesn't want restraunts (or even cooking) other than his specific brand of gourmet to exist he's promoting a system where all the most talented chefs from japan will only cook his style depriving other restruants of workers and making his cooking stronger (even if it would be stagnant) also yeah shinomiya went to a different country with no money and had to swim against racism and he still got good jobs in starred restaurants, that is the power of tootski.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I think it's less about being contradictory and more about being hella outlandish. They've definitely walked back the level of supreme greatness all of the graduates have once they started introducing a ton of them.
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Also, the spoiler people are confirming that the announcement in this chapter is Season 2 of the anime.
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Angry Grimace posted:Also, the spoiler people are confirming that the announcement in this chapter is Season 2 of the anime. I am so drat happy. The anime was so much fun.
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Chapter 147 is out. Rindou still owns, obviously
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Can I sperg for a bit? "T/N: glutamic acid is also known as MSG" - no it's not! MSG is monosodic glutamate, the sodium salt of glutamic acid; the latter is naturally present in foods, while the former is added to foods (akin to salt). It's the difference between naturally savoury (or salty) foods and added savouriness (or saltiness). Sperg done, you may resume discussing the chapter.
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I was kind of hoping Souma would explain how he came up with this recipe thanks to staying at the Polar Star dorms, then go "if you close the place down, I have literally no reason to stay here so I'm fine with getting expelled". That'd make it really blatantly obvious to everyone that Azami's administration is actually squandering potential. I guess this was okay too.
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Isn't that... exactly what happened? Just in less words. You don't need to spell out every last little thing. Incidentally, it's probably technically cheating that he won just because they thought it'd be a waste to get rid of that potential. They didn't even attempt to compare his dish to Eizan's, they just said it was good enough to stick around.
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Souma didn't say the word literally, therefore my immersion is ruined.  -- This might have gone exactly the way I thought, but the faces  best part by far.
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It makes me laugh how much the Internet was disappointed by the lack of Rindou's clothes exploding. Pervs.
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Angry Grimace posted:It makes me laugh how much the Internet was disappointed by the lack of Rindou's clothes exploding. Ecchi
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BlitzBlast posted:I was kind of hoping Souma would explain how he came up with this recipe thanks to staying at the Polar Star dorms, then go "if you close the place down, I have literally no reason to stay here so I'm fine with getting expelled". That'd make it really blatantly obvious to everyone that Azami's administration is actually squandering potential. They're not being particularly subtle about just how Azami's administration is actively detrimental to the development of young cooks. I don't think they really need to outright say it. I'm glad they tied the polar star guys back into Soma's dish as an explanation for how he came up with it, because this match was for the whole dorm and not just Soma. So i'm happy they're all getting acknowledged. Clarste posted:Isn't that... exactly what happened? Just in less words. You don't need to spell out every last little thing. Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. I would have really liked for Soma to get an actual definitive win over an elite 10 member solely due to his cooking being better. Because he's about overdue for a big success, but i'm fine with him getting the win more due to an ideological victory than anything and it's still being treated as a major win so i'm cool with it. It also helps protect Eizan and keeps him a big deal since most of this battle has really been mostly for his sake to show that he is pretty goddamn good.. And it means we're not likely to get all of Eizan's backstory yet, which is good because I think he can remain just a huge rear end in a top hat for a while longer. He plays the role well.
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I just wanted to see a splash page of Souma going "I don't really give a poo poo about this school".
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SyntheticPolygon posted:They're not being particularly subtle about just how Azami's administration is actively detrimental to the development of young cooks. I don't think they really need to outright say it. I feel like it's come to the point where souma needs to sleep with one eye open and practice cooking without his pinkies.
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Elfgames posted:I feel like it's come to the point where souma needs to sleep with one eye open and practice cooking without his pinkies. I want Eizan's dad to either be a Yakuza boss, or the accountant of a Yakuza boss, and that's where his obsession with profit and endless supply of thugs comes from. Or the opposite where his parents are 100% normal, unassuming folk with jobs unrelated to cooking. That might be funnier.
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