Ellen Degeneres: Horizons - AI Now Earns More Than Human Crew

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Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

I hoping that crafting fills some of the holes too. Like I'd dump 50M into a bespoke Yooge, Luxurious Orca FSD.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 02:08

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# ? May 11, 2024 11:43

Arrath: Apr 14, 2011

Capn Beeb posted:

Is a Type-6 with 88 cargo capacaity viable for the Robigo money faucet? My trade rank is merchant and I've got $8.5 million to buy cargo with.

Absolutely. I made about $15m off of 60 odd cargo space in my $2m type 6. Only run I've done so far but what a payday.

With that kind of return you'd be silly not to spend a bit of cash and make a run or two before horizons.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 02:16

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Is Arexe still the best place to grind Fed ranks?

# ? Dec 10, 2015 02:18

xiansi: Jan 26, 2012; im judjing all goons cause they have bad leader, so a noral member is associated whith thoose crasy one

Personaly i would quit the goons if i was in cause of thoose crasy ppl; Clapping Larry

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Is Arexe still the best place to grind Fed ranks?

There is nowhere to 'grind' ranks. There are no ranks any more.

Both the Empire and Federation have shut down all promotions due to being excessively top-heavy. Or something.

Sure seems that way anyway - I'm 3% shy of being an Elite trader (smuggler, really) thanks to running missions for everyone everywhere, donating all the credits to any aligned faction...and still gently caress all.

And they expect me to be a frigging Duke just for the privilege of spending all that hard-earned money on a new ship? All the more annoying since it's 'only' the next rank up from Marquis.

Being serious, assuming the general belief that combat missions give better rank progression is true, I have found Kui 11 to be the best bet - lots of Fed factions, all dishing out kill pirate missions in the same system next door.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 03:02

Sostratos: Jun 28, 2004

xiansi posted:

Being serious, assuming the general belief that combat missions give better rank progression is true, I have found Kui 11 to be the best bet - lots of Fed factions, all dishing out kill pirate missions in the same system next door.

Arexe is exactly like that, with the added benefit of the system all the missions point to being an anarchy. You can take missions to kill civilians without worrying about the law, and there's a HIRES in Orrere that will satisfy all your pirate and innocent bystander needs. All that being said, ranks still don't come quick. I'm grinding out my last rank in 17 Draconis.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 03:21

Naturally Selected: Nov 28, 2007; by Cyrano4747

So decided to do the robigo run. Got 30M-ish worth of missions, got to the first station, got in front of the mailslot, set to autodock aaaaand it boosts me into a wall killing me instantly. gently caress this game

# ? Dec 10, 2015 03:26

Beeb: Jun 29, 2003

Arrath posted:

Absolutely. I made about $15m off of 60 odd cargo space in my $2m type 6. Only run I've done so far but what a payday.

With that kind of return you'd be silly not to spend a bit of cash and make a run or two before horizons.

Well poo poo, I'm 17 (lol 400ly) jumps out. What all is involved with Robigo shenanigans?

Edit:

~~Uh, it seems I can't make the run as I run out of fuel and there aren't any stars I can eat on the way out. What the hell? I'm going from Xihe to Robigo.~~

Just need to do some minor rerouting :downs:

Beeb fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Dec 10, 2015

# ? Dec 10, 2015 03:27

Beastie: Nov 3, 2006; They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.

That moon rover footage was sweet but idk about spending $60 dollars on this game will draw me back in.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 03:36

Luneshot: Mar 10, 2014

What happens if your ship is destroyed while you're in an SRV?

# ? Dec 10, 2015 03:40

Mitchicon: Nov 3, 2006

Luneshot posted:

What happens if your ship is destroyed while you're in an SRV?

The game ends. Like completely. Forever for you.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 03:48

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Beastie posted:

That moon rover footage was sweet but idk about spending $60 dollars on this game will draw me back in.

'kay

please keep us updated tia

# ? Dec 10, 2015 04:00

Galaga Galaxian: Apr 23, 2009; What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!

Naturally Selected posted:

So decided to do the robigo run. Got 30M-ish worth of missions, got to the first station, got in front of the mailslot, set to autodock aaaaand it boosts me into a wall killing me instantly. gently caress this game

I've been doing nothing but autodock (except when smuggling) for some time and never had trouble with it in my Asp, iCourier, Vulture, or Python. Sucks that you got unlucky.

Did you trigger it literally a few hundred meters from the slot? I usually just activate it right after requesting docking permission ~7km out and it does a fine job boosting in from any facing.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 04:13

Literally Kermit: Mar 4, 2012; t

Beastie posted:

That moon rover footage was sweet but idk about spending $60 dollars on this game will draw me back in.

Well it should be more like $45 for you, if you already own the base game. Loyalty discount.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 04:51

ManicJason: Oct 27, 2003; He doesn't really stop the puck, but he scares the hell out of the other team.

I spent an hour or two tonight trying to grind from baron up to duke. From what I can tell, that would take 12+ hours. I guess I will never see a Cutter.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 05:22

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

xiansi posted:

*exploring in an Anaconda is painful, and a piss-poor reward for the effort it takes to afford it.

why on earth would you do this

# ? Dec 10, 2015 05:27

Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

HiroProtagonist posted:

why on earth would you do this

It's got the best jump range in the game and I think it's the only ship you can currently use to traverse the gap between the galactic arms if you travelling around the edge. Pity about the godawful handling in supercruise, though.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 05:59

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Luneshot posted:

What happens if your ship is destroyed while you're in an SRV?

Your ship is invincible when you are outside of it, even if it's sitting on the ground.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 06:22

sincx: Jul 13, 2012; furiously masturbating to anime titties

Mercurius posted:

It's got the best jump range in the game and I think it's the only ship you can currently use to traverse the gap between the galactic arms if you travelling around the edge. Pity about the godawful handling in supercruise, though.

Doesn't the Asp Explorer have a higher jump range?

# ? Dec 10, 2015 06:50

Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

don't ask how i know; Dinosaur Gum

sincx posted:

Doesn't the Asp Explorer have a higher jump range?

Nope, you can gimmick build an Anaconda up to a max range of just over 41 to the Asp's 38.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 07:09

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

HiroProtagonist posted:

Huh. Already killed one and saw absolutely no mission target sign. I'll keep an eye out for it though. Thanks.

The thing about the mission target text, its main distinguishing feature, is that it's black.

And the thing about space, the colour of space, your basic space colour, is that it's black.

Bonus points for the getting the reference

# ? Dec 10, 2015 09:51

Kazy: Oct 23, 2006; 0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

Is that a bug in 1.4 or something? I could've sworn it used to be red when I first started.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 10:10

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Yeah it's a bug. In my opinion, the funniest one.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 10:12

TheresaJayne: Jul 1, 2011

Libluini posted:

Woah, really? I don't know why, but I'm not sure if I should point my finger and laugh at this.

Eh, let's let him have his Jita, he paid for it after all.

i didn't pay for it but i used to roll with Valhalla doing incursions on eve....

# ? Dec 10, 2015 10:18

EponymousMrYar: Jan 4, 2015; The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

HiroProtagonist posted:

Huh. Already killed one and saw absolutely no mission target sign. I'll keep an eye out for it though. Thanks.

Another thing, in the contact menu where you see your target's details there will be a notes section on the bottom that appears blank. For me this section only appears when said target is a mission target and while the "Mission Target" text is just as black, the notes box isn't!

I found it quite handy.

Also space sure is pretty.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 10:19

legooolas: Jul 30, 2004

DarthBlingBling posted:

And the thing about space, the colour of space, your basic space colour, is that it's black.

A white hole?

edit: To keep my post on topic, was there an explanation a whole back which I can't find on how I should fly the FDL? Like I assume it's not one that's great at flying sideways to stay pointing at targets, or an I just a crappy pilot?

legooolas fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Dec 10, 2015

# ? Dec 10, 2015 11:17

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...; Grimey Drawer

Mercurius posted:

It's got the best jump range in the game and I think it's the only ship you can currently use to traverse the gap between the galactic arms if you travelling around the edge. Pity about the godawful handling in supercruise, though.

No, the Asp is perfectly fine for travelling between the gaps. I did this multiple times in my Asp and I only had a jump range of like 35 (thanks to me being paranoid and rolling with double heat-sinks and other poo poo). It's sometimes harrowing, but doable.

And seriously, with the way Frontier has upped the number of NPCs interdicting you, no way in hell would I put myself in an Anaconda min-maxed to the point of highest jump range, that's just unhealthy for your mind. And when you put in some kind of survival-kit to get away more easier from nasty encounters, the jump range drops to just above Asp-level, at which point you really don't have to bother anymore.

legooolas posted:

A white hole?

Those sadly don't exist.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 11:23

Xtanstic: Nov 23, 2007

Libluini posted:

And seriously, with the way Frontier has upped the number of NPCs interdicting you,.

You still get interdicted when you go exploring in the deep void of space?

# ? Dec 10, 2015 11:40

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...; Grimey Drawer

Xtanstic posted:

You still get interdicted when you go exploring in the deep void of space?

No, but you'll never get any money if you never come back

# ? Dec 10, 2015 11:52

ChickenMedium: Sep 2, 2001; Forum Veteran And Professor Emeritus of Condiment Studies

So how often do these community goal things come around? Making 5 million spacebucks for turning in 40 system reports was pretty helpful, especially since I am basically at the Galactic Hobo level of funds.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 12:38

Zaardvark: Apr 28, 2015; Ceci n'est pas un GIF.

ChickenMedium posted:

So how often do these community goal things come around? Making 5 million spacebucks for turning in 40 system reports was pretty helpful, especially since I am basically at the Galactic Hobo level of funds.

There are, I think, two a week?

# ? Dec 10, 2015 12:55

deadly_pudding: May 13, 2009; who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

ChickenMedium posted:

So how often do these community goal things come around? Making 5 million spacebucks for turning in 40 system reports was pretty helpful, especially since I am basically at the Galactic Hobo level of funds.

Cripes, they pay out that well? I should maybe go on a road trip next time I log in :stare:

# ? Dec 10, 2015 14:08

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

They're not all explorer based btw

# ? Dec 10, 2015 15:17

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...; Grimey Drawer

DarthBlingBling posted:

They're not all explorer based btw

Quite the opposite, really

# ? Dec 10, 2015 15:26

forkbucket: Mar 9, 2008; Magnets are my only weakness.

Hey, what are your thoughts on this vulture build? Primarily this would be used to shoot pirates while ranking up federation so I can buy a FAS. I've only ever flown a cobra and an Asp though so I'm no expert! Is this a dumb overpriced hunk of metal or will this tear poo poo up?

I built it with the changes to hull reinforcement and shield cell banks in mind. Also, set up the power distribution so the shield boosters turn off while kill warrant scanning and on while lasering. Thoughts?

http://coriolis.io/outfit/vulture/44A5A4A3D5A4D3C1e1e0j0400054a2b272525.AwRj-UPI.AwhMIkEZhyg=

forkbucket fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Dec 10, 2015

# ? Dec 10, 2015 15:58

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

DarthBlingBling posted:

They're not all explorer based btw

What about rank progress? Do they have any significant our mentionable effect on whichever one is applicable?

# ? Dec 10, 2015 16:00

Adult Sword Owner: Jun 19, 2011; u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

KakerMix posted:

Your ship is invincible when you are outside of it, even if it's sitting on the ground.

So much for my ultimate griefing idea of stranding people on planets

# ? Dec 10, 2015 16:35

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

HiroProtagonist posted:

What about rank progress? Do they have any significant our mentionable effect on whichever one is applicable?

Not really no, as rank progression comes from doing missions. There may be some possible cross over tho

# ? Dec 10, 2015 17:01

Cowcaster: Aug 7, 2002

So I was trying to build up this viper loadout: http://coriolis.io/outfit/viper/03D3D3D2D3D3D2C1b1b24240m0042592o-.AwRj4yyA.AwhMIyQRnI== but the power numbers don't match up with the in game power numbers. I don't even have the fuel scoop equipped and I'm at 7.99MW retracted and 10.33 deployed where the shipbuilder says I should be lower than that. I can't see what I'm doing wrong. Are the ship builder numbers out of date?

# ? Dec 10, 2015 18:36

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

DarthBlingBling posted:

Not really no, as rank progression comes from doing missions. There may be some possible cross over tho

Good to know. I'll probably try one out at some point just for the hell of it and see for myself.

With a fully kitted Asp and Vulture, I'm thinking my next target is going to be a fairly combat-oriented iClipper. Could some more knowledgeable people take a look at this build and tell me if I'm being dumb and/or about to waste a shitload of time on something garbage?

http://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial_clipper/16A6A5A5D6A5C4C2b2b1b1b020l04044f5n035d292t6b2f.Iw18aQ==.CwBhCYEZpa88VKxAZnCIA===?bn=iClip

In particular, the jump range looks a little skimpy, but it's about on par with my vulture, so I don't know if it's really too terrible if I'm going to be killing things most of the time.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 18:36

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# ? May 11, 2024 11:43

TorakFade: Oct 3, 2006; I strongly disapprove

So, for you beta-havers, what happens when you get killed in your SRV? Load screen and back to the ship?

And if you only have 1 SRV in storage because you only have a size-2 hangar, it's back to a station to buy a new one? That could be kind of a hassle on exploring trips, especially outside the bubble. Not everybody wants to forgo the size 5 or 6 slot in their Asp (because basically only the Asp has room for SRVs while still on an explorer fit), 'specially when you need a big fuel scoop and probably shields if the Thargoids are ever to come.

# ? Dec 10, 2015 18:38

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