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Deadlift and squat on the same day is killing me, I think it's time to quit stronglifts.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:02
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you should probably switch it around from deadlift and squat on the same day to squat and deadlift on the same day.
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roymorrison posted:the Olympic training center is in Colorado for that reason its also why every piece of human loving garbage road cyclist lives in Boulder. when i lived there i had dreams of running them over. they make crossfit people look like sane normal individuals.
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Dec 10, 2015 07:32
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There's this guy in the gym I see from time to time that does not even do quarter squats. They're like 1/16 squats.
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Dec 10, 2015 08:15
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notZaar posted:Deadlift and squat on the same day is killing me, I think it's time to quit stronglifts. Why, are you at max weight? FogHelmut posted:you should probably switch it around from deadlift and squat on the same day to squat and deadlift on the same day. Also, this. Party Alarm posted:There's this guy in the gym I see from time to time that does not even do quarter squats. They're like 1/16 squats. Mock that fucker!
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Dec 10, 2015 09:36
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Party Alarm posted:There's this guy in the gym I see from time to time that does not even do quarter squats. They're like 1/16 squats. ...because then he can claim bigger numbers. ...unless he's lifting like 135lb in which case lol. Also I have the flu and am dying to go lift a thing but my joints ache and I feel like poo poo. 
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Dec 10, 2015 09:58
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^^^ go lift notZaar posted:Deadlift and squat on the same day is killing me, I think it's time to quit stronglifts. Ever done a 5 day split?
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Dec 10, 2015 13:55
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88h88 posted:...because then he can claim bigger numbers. Whats up flu bro i missed squat day cause im down aswell no gains this week.
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Dec 10, 2015 14:23
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:^^^ go lift I can't even do 1 split, much less hold it for five days. As for before, I do the squats first (that's the order the app tells me to do it) but that doesn't make the deadlift easier. I've been doing the program since March and I keep plateauing on my squats at ~210 lb.
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Dec 10, 2015 14:42
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notZaar posted:I can't even do 1 split, much less hold it for five days. How much do you weigh? And what do you do when you plateau? And what else do you do? If you absolutely can't get past it, take a week or two off and go back to it. Also, what is your Deadlift? My Q-Face fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 15:48
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Weight is 162 lb although that is ~12% BF. Deadlift is currently at 240 5x5 although I haven't plateaued there yet. I'm just following the program so when I fail to increase the squat 3 times in a row I do 80% deload. Taking time off (ie a long weekend) hasn't really helped much. Also once I got past 185lb on my squat I really started struggling with the form. Knees keep trying to buckle and I gotta smack down the hips on the way up because they keep trying to make me do a Good Morning instead.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:27
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notZaar posted:Weight is 162 lb although that is ~12% BF. Deadlift is currently at 240 5x5 although I haven't plateaued there yet. Try something different. People are special snowflakes. What programs have you tried so far?
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Dec 10, 2015 16:45
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notZaar posted:Weight is 162 lb although that is ~12% BF. Deadlift is currently at 240 5x5 although I haven't plateaued there yet. I had that trouble too. When I say take time off, I mean take a full 7-14 days off, i.e. not doing anything. Don't go to the gym. The program will have you deload appropriately when you start again, but as you get back up to where you were, you will find it easier. Follow the program, don't deload one day and then go back to where you were the next. Also, Deadlifts at your work weight are supposed to be 1x5, not 5x5.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:27
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Whoops, you're right, the DL is a 1x5 at work weight. I actually really like the deadlift, except for the part where it feels like my fingers are ripping out of my hand.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:33
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Likewise. My fingers always feel like the point of failure when I'm pushing my upper limit.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:35
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Try doing 5/3/1 instead. Then you can experience the joy of doing a 5x10 deadlift after a 1 RM squat.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:54
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I'm curious - does everyone here follow a lifting plan, and if so, what one? Anyone else develop their own plan?
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Dec 10, 2015 18:46
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when I started out i followed other peoples plans and I'd recommend doing that if you're a newb. Once you learn more about the lifts/yourself and what is good and what is good for your goals you can start to make your own custom routines
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Dec 10, 2015 18:48
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:I'm curious - does everyone here follow a lifting plan, and if so, what one? Anyone else develop their own plan? Here is my stupid plan that I made up based on factless assumptions I created Day 1 - Chest/Tricep 10 minute warmup on elliptical, break a sweat Bench Press (or DB press, or some kind of other major compound lift if you cant get to the bench because some bro in a graphic tank is still doing the 300 workout) Incline DB Press (or Incline Bench whatever is free, I haven;t got time to work in) Fly Machine or DB Flies Overhead barbell tricep extension or skull crushers Tricep rope pushdown Optional I'm feeling good option - Dumbbell pullover Dips til you quits Day 2 - All of the back 10 minute warmup on elliptical, break a sweat Deadlift (or if your shins are bleeding from last week's bad form, bent over row and leg press or front squat) Seated cable row Lat pulldown Isolateral plate loaded row Barbell curls Alternating DB curls Day 3 - Shoulders/tricep 10 minute warmup on elliptical, break a sweat Overhead barbell press Arnold DB press Lateral DB raises Front plate raises Optional i'm feeling good option - shoulder press machine Tricep rope pushdown Dips Day 4 - gently caress Back squat (warm up here as well) Barbell step up Cable crunch Straight leg vertical leg raises DB lunge Optional I can still feel my back option - hyperextensions Preacher curls forever
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Dec 10, 2015 19:11
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:I'm curious - does everyone here follow a lifting plan, and if so, what one? Anyone else develop their own plan? I'm on my 14th cycle of 5/3/1. I started in February and have only changed accessory work up. Still many gains to be had but I really like it because I rarely feel beat up or tired.
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Dec 10, 2015 19:25
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I really enjoy 5/3/1 until the point where squats threaten to explode my lumbar spine due to being a weak little bitch with buttwink 
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Dec 10, 2015 19:37
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Do you have hamstring inflexibility? I find that yoga and foam rolls help with that.
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Dec 10, 2015 19:40
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Hell yes I do, I need to roll but 
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Dec 10, 2015 20:12
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its time. its time!!!! its bi's and back tiiiiiime
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Dec 10, 2015 20:17
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FogHelmut posted:Here is my stupid plan that I made up based on factless assumptions I created Factless assumptions are what this thread is all about. Do you feel like you're hitting tris/bis enough with this plan? I make them their own day, but I go 5 days. SpeedyCow posted:I'm on my 14th cycle of 5/3/1. I started in February and have only changed accessory work up. Still many gains to be had but I really like it because I rarely feel beat up or tired. I'm starting to see the allure of that, because my setup has me exhausted all the loving time.
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Dec 10, 2015 20:42
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Factless assumptions are what this thread is all about. Do you feel like you're hitting tris/bis enough with this plan? I make them their own day, but I go 5 days. I probably never hit them at max power because I start off with heavy compound lifts and work my way down. I don't know if they're burnt out from being an accessory, but probably because I'm like "yeah, 30 lbs pushdown, hwahaahh"
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Dec 10, 2015 22:34
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Sweet bro, do quarter leg presses with 16 plates, no one else wants to lift
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Dec 11, 2015 00:37
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working out is great because no matter how much pain i'm in lifting, i know that the pain will be worse for everyone else who has to deal with my protien farts
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Dec 11, 2015 01:25
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Nothing lets loose the stinky farts like a nice deep heavy squat.
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Dec 11, 2015 01:28
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thats cool that youre both lactose intolerant and buy lovely protein just consume raw eggs like a man
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Dec 11, 2015 01:35
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I'm finally at 225 for reps on the squat. My legs are pretty much constantly sore. I'm starting to see why so many people skip legs.
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Dec 11, 2015 01:55
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Skipping is cardio
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Dec 11, 2015 02:37
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So I can't tell if I like my new gym better or not than my old. It's more expensive by about 10 bucks but it's got a better selection of free weights. It's not 24 hours (and the weekend hours really suck, actually) but it's also got a better selection of machines and more space / less crowding during normal hours. It does, as far as I can tell, have the same problem every other gym in the area does. I don't know if it's just that college assholes are a big part of their income but all the gyms in the area have issues in the afternoons with weights / towels being tossed around, nothing gets reracked and there's always at least one group of bros hogging a bench while doing one set every 5 minutes. Earlier this week it took me like 5 minutes to find a pair of 2.5lb plates for some curls because they kept getting hidden behind 25 and 45 plates in opposite parts of the gym. Also feel like an rear end in a top hat because it took me a while to figure out how the angled leg press works (my former gym just had that horizontal belt one; I maxed it out almost immediately and had to switch to one-leg presses instead.) Welp, I ended up typing way more than I thought I would so welcome to my livejournal everyone!
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i see so many people doing lat pulldowns on the pulldown machine wrong there are like a billion variants i've seen since i started at this new gym. People kind of rowing them somehow, people doing it wayyyy behind their neck while leaning forward and poo poo. Like, there are clear instructions with pictures even on the thing but you still see really unfit people sit down on it and just start flailing they limbs around
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Dec 11, 2015 06:54
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why would you ever use anything less than a 45 lb plate
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notZaar posted:Whoops, you're right, the DL is a 1x5 at work weight. I actually really like the deadlift, except for the part where it feels like my fingers are ripping out of my hand. Stronglift bro here. I do 3*5 for the deadlift, because deadlifting is awesome.
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Zzulu posted:when I started out i followed other peoples plans and I'd recommend doing that if you're a newb. Once you learn more about the lifts/yourself and what is good and what is good for your goals you can start to make your own custom routines Yeah. I'm currently using a semi-custom routine which started out as 5/3/1 and still has that as its core. My situation is such that the amount of time and energy and recovery available varies unpredictably (I am in my forties, married, with small children and a full-time job -- there are entire weeks which are completely hosed up due to lack of sleep caused by sick children or whatnot, there are other weeks which are much better, etc. All in all the best I can hope for is to average out with slow and steady progress interrupted by various crap.) What I actually do now is use the prescribed 5/3/1 lifts as a bare-minimum guide, and autoregulate extra volume/frequency/intensity on top of that, according to daily situation. The basic assumption is that I'm going to get in two lifting days most weeks; so I group the main lifts as bench/squat on one day and press/deadlift on the other; then I also do some sets of the opposite main lifts. Also balance out overhead press with pullups and bench press with some form of horizontal row; finish up with a little bit of vanity work. Use supersets a lot (when I go there are often no other people in the gym wanting to use the same equipment as me so I can usually go bench/row/squat, for example). Typically I will front-load the week because I am usually better rested on Mondays than later; so I'll pack the minimum prescribed lifts for press and deadlifts into the same workout as the "real" main sets for bench and squat; that way even if the rest of the week ends up completely hosed I can in good conscience say I've done the required minimum and progress to the next week as planned. Then later in the week I try to do either one more long workout with main sets for press and deads and more volume work for bench and squat; or two somewhat shorter ones. As for the main lifts, sometimes I feel like going for AMRAP as the 5/3/1 program originally wants, other times I feel more like doing multiple submaximal worksets. Long as I get in 10-25 quality reps at or above prescribed weight, I'm happy enough.
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