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DeadlyHalibut
May 31, 2008
http://www.hs.fi/m/ulkomaat/a1449640601592

Siinä myönnetään kansainvälisellä tasolla että Suomen sinisilmäisyyden ja eu:n epäluotettavuuden takia meille tuli 5x enemmän pakolaisia kun pitäisi.

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SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011

doverhog posted:

The claims that we will "benefit from all this" are about the long term, and with the caveat that integration is successful.

Yes I agree.

A big caveat. :D

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006

Puistokemisti posted:

http://www.hs.fi/ilta/09122015/a1449634531482

”En tiedä miten minun Irakissa käy, mutta täällä minä kuolen henkisesti”

So he found out that it's depressing here. He'll fit right in.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

SnowblindFatal posted:

Yes I agree.

A big caveat. :D

miksi irakilaiset integroituisi tänne kun ei ne integroidu edes irakiin

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Hogge Wild posted:

miksi irakilaiset integroituisi tänne kun ei persutkaan ole integroituneet tänne

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006
Just some friendly banter in the courts.

PineappleGod
Feb 12, 2008
The Pineapple God has returned

Old white dudes in their late 50's and 60's are racist and sexist. Who would've thought.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

PineappleGod posted:

Old white dudes in their late 50's and 60's are racist and sexist. Who would've thought.

On the other hand, it's kinda bad when those old white dudes hold power over the people they are racist and sexist towards.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Valiantman posted:

80 evacuated when someone intentionally torched yet another refugee center. Luckily the fire brigade managed to get the fire under control and the refugees can move back in after the smoke is cleared.

There is a ton of news that it was a cigarette stump?

Google Pirkanmaa & tupakantumppi.

Or was this intentional murder torch you speak of some other event.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

SnowblindFatal posted:

It's extremely naive to think that the immigrants won't be a huge drain on our budget.

Actually, pumping money in to taking care of a bunch of people boosts the economy.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Ligur posted:

There is a ton of news that it was a cigarette stump?

Google Pirkanmaa & tupakantumppi.

Or was this intentional murder torch you speak of some other event.

The latest by the police is, they don't know the cause and can't rule anything out, though without proof of foul play, they're calling it an accident.

But with so many refugee centers burning, it's no wonder people are suspecting Nazis:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Remember when Ligur murdered an immigrant?

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Oldsmobile posted:

Actually, pumping money in to taking care of a bunch of people boosts the economy.

rahan pumppaaminen maahanmuuttajille on hyvä esimerkki rikotun ikkunan ongelmasta

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

Oldsmobile posted:

Actually, pumping money in to taking care of a bunch of people boosts the economy.

Actually, this is bullshit. If it was that simple, you could build huge pyres where you burn stuff.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Hob_Gadling posted:

Actually, this is bullshit. If it was that simple, you could build huge pyres where you burn stuff.

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer



Profit!

Geriatric Pirate
Apr 25, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Oldsmobile posted:

Actually, pumping money in to taking care of a bunch of people boosts the economy.
Burning down refugee centers is the new vasemmistoliitto economic policy

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state
http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/a1449726294336

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011

Oldsmobile posted:

Actually, pumping money in to taking care of a bunch of people boosts the economy.

Pumping money into useful things boosts the economy. What you're saying is that we should hire 200000 people to dig a hole and another 200000 to fill it to have less unemployed.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Oldsmobile posted:

Actually, pumping money in to taking care of a bunch of people boosts the economy.

Ahh, this is why the elderly and their pensions is a terrific economic boon to Finland, as are all the unemployed...

Wait.... wait now...




Come on, even you can't believe that.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Ligur posted:

There is a ton of news that it was a cigarette stump?

Google Pirkanmaa & tupakantumppi.

Or was this intentional murder torch you speak of some other event.

Cigarette was a completely different case.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Valiantman posted:

Cigarette was a completely different case.

Ok. Uncool.

What case was it then? That is not something that should exist.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Ligur posted:

Ahh, this is why the elderly and their pensions is a terrific economic boon to Finland, as are all the unemployed...

Wait.... wait now...




Come on, even you can't believe that.

Well, I'm glad that cutting the pensions and benefits has salvaged our economy.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

endlessmonotony posted:

Well, I'm glad that cutting the pensions and benefits has salvaged our economy.

If pumping money on welfare would be a recipe for success and not having to take debt, I'm pretty sure that would be a popular option.

This with the caveat, of course, that the society pumping money can't afford it. If it can sure as hell. If you need to take debt upon debt something is obviously wrong.

Bensa
Aug 21, 2007

Loyal 'til the end.
Just adding this to the fire conversation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/wp...-redir=0&w=1200, from this article.

Not sure why this wasn't clamped down on right away by the staff. Smoking indoors in "public" buildings is only allowed when there is a well ventilated area built with ignition resistant materials. Its again just one of those things we expect people to know, and these small things are going to take a lot of integration to deal with. Hard to consider those during planning since they don't really strike out as obvious things to go over.

Also that sauna is now ruined, smoked-in rooms are pretty much written off.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Hob_Gadling posted:

Actually, this is bullshit. If it was that simple, you could build huge pyres where you burn stuff.

Actually it's not. Having everything bombed to poo poo boosts the economy. That's why war is good for business and why the world is hosed up.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Oldsmobile posted:

Actually it's not. Having everything bombed to poo poo boosts the economy. That's why war is good for business and why the world is hosed up.

Abolish Money.

It will save you a ton of money.

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

Oldsmobile posted:

Actually it's not. Having everything bombed to poo poo boosts the economy. That's why war is good for business and why the world is hosed up.

Come on, now you're being literally Jerry.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Bensa posted:

Just adding this to the fire conversation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/wp...-redir=0&w=1200, from this article.

Not sure why this wasn't clamped down on right away by the staff. Smoking indoors in "public" buildings is only allowed when there is a well ventilated area built with ignition resistant materials. Its again just one of those things we expect people to know, and these small things are going to take a lot of integration to deal with. Hard to consider those during planning since they don't really strike out as obvious things to go over.

Also that sauna is now ruined, smoked-in rooms are pretty much written off.

I doubt the people living at the refugee center have had a say in where they're allowed to smoke. Certainly smoking in the sauna shower room is as disgusting as smoking anywhere inside, but of all the places, it certainly the safest with tiles and water near by.

I've been to a few refugee centers before the current influx and they are very tightly run places. About as close to minimum security prisons as you can get with almost as much dehumanizing and oppression. Even if it's well meaning.

We should just scrap the system and provide emergency shelters for those who have just arrived.

Hob_Gadling posted:

Come on, now you're being literally Jerry.

Next you're going to claim the Finnish/US/German economies didn't expand tremendously after ww2?

Geriatric Pirate
Apr 25, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
Check out Syria's thriving economy

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Oldsmobile posted:

Actually it's not. Having everything bombed to poo poo boosts the economy. That's why war is good for business and why the world is hosed up.

sä et nyt oikein näytä ymmärtävän sitä rikotun ikkunan ongelmaa

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008
That sounds like something a libertarian might say. It is not a good thing.

konna
Aug 1, 2005

Hogge Wild posted:

sä et nyt oikein näytä ymmärtävän sitä rikotun ikkunan ongelmaa

Improving economy :aaaaa:

Golden Gate Bride
Oct 23, 2008
knife to meet you
Tehtiin mitä piti (to boost the economy)

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008
The Stadium logo is missing.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

If the economy desperately needs stimulus and the government is refusing to increase spending except by repairing broken windows, then maybe a government-subsidized window manufacture and repair industry is the only politically possible way to stimulate the economy.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/art-1449807502446.html

saamelaiset taitavat olla ainoa ihmisryhmä joka on herkkähipiäisempi kuin ruotsalaiset

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Hogge Wild posted:

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/art-1449807502446.html

saamelaiset taitavat olla ainoa ihmisryhmä joka on herkkähipiäisempi kuin ruotsalaiset

Cultural appropriation is bad because

Golden Gate Bride
Oct 23, 2008
knife to meet you

Hogge Wild posted:

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/viihde/art-1449807502446.html

saamelaiset taitavat olla ainoa ihmisryhmä joka on herkkähipiäisempi kuin ruotsalaiset

Eh, seems reasonable

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

quote:

– Edelleenkin kyseenalaistan, miksi hän ikinä pukeutuisi gáktiin, saamelaisten kansanpukuun, miksi hän ei pukeudu oman alueensa kansallispukuun? Helander kysyy.

Does Helsingfors even have kansallispuku? The only city in Finland, Turku, certainly doesn't.

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