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On the topic of horrible surgical procedures, this week's Sawbones is about the treatment of gunshot wounds. http://www.maximumfun.org/sawbones/sawbones-gunshot-wounds
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Hogge Wild posted:why would it be retarded to carry some pikes with your dragoons? You'd need 'lots of pikes' in order to be effective whereas cavalry units tend to be relatively quite small. Having half a dozen isn't going to do you much good.
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Dec 10, 2015 15:41
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Tomn posted:So what skills exactly go into being a good horseman? I assume there's more to it than just sitting on the horse and saying "Yah!", but what exactly distinguishes a bad horseman from a good horseman? Depending on the period there might be an emphasis on the role of the cavalryman as reconnaissance first - in the WWI British Army it was expected that all cavalrymen would have a knee mounted sketch pad and would be able to draw a sketch of the enemy disposition in short order. This, and the whole 'controlling a wild beast' aspect of horsemanship is one of the reasons the British scouted the ranks of the cavalry for the first fighter pilots. Generally, the later the period the more emphasis there is on cavalry as recon units compared to a shock combat arm. Also don't forget that falling off a horse can loving kill you, so just being able to hang on in a combat situation is a pretty big deal.
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Dec 10, 2015 15:48
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100 Years Ago I've got a big long look at the preparations for evacuating Gallipoli, and then this is the day of the fraternisation that prompted Louis Barthas to wish for a memorial at Neuville. By the way, I've been able to see a bit of the original French, and, well. quote:Who knows – maybe one day in this corner of Artois they will raise a monument to commemorate this spirit of fraternity among men who shared a horror of war and who were forced to kill each other against their wills. quote:Qui sait! Peut-être un jour sur ce coin de l’Artois on élèvera un monument pour commémorer cet élan de fraternité entre des hommes qui avaient l’horreur de la guerre et qu’on obligeait à s’entretuer malgré leur volonté. It cannot be a coincidence that, with all the words in French and Occitan at his disposal, he chose to call it "élan" de fraternite, surely?
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Dec 10, 2015 15:57
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Trin Tragula posted:It cannot be a coincidence that, with all the words in French and Occitan at his disposal, he chose to call it "élan" de fraternite, surely? also, depending on the cav, you should probably be energetic and self-directed. Like Imperial "Croats" are there to make life miserable for the enemy outside of combat, and there's more to that than just going where you're told and doing what you're told.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:01
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Riding a horse is fairly difficult in general.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:03
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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago Alas, poor private Bullet.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:08
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He was volatile and showed no respect to rank, but he was a damned formidable opponent if he was being sent against you. In many ways, he's the perfect ANZAC.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:19
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feedmegin posted:You'd need 'lots of pikes' in order to be effective whereas cavalry units tend to be relatively quite small. Having half a dozen isn't going to do you much good. I wasn't talking about a half a dozen. Eg. in Carolean infantry units only 1/3 of the soldiers carried pikes.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:37
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Hogge Wild posted:I wasn't talking about a half a dozen. Eg. in Carolean infantry units only 1/3 of the soldiers carried pikes.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:40
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Hegel, you have talked about how pikes were seen as super important to a lot of these guys, is it possible it was some kind of symbolic thing to have a pikeman riding along with the dragoons or something?
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Dec 10, 2015 16:51
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Quick googling tells that pike-dragoons were used until the early 17th century, but even then they were quite rare, and dragoons preferred riding away if they were threatened by a cavalry charge on open ground.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:51
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Hogge Wild posted:Quick googling tells that pike-dragoons were used until the early 17th century, but even then they were quite rare, and dragoons preferred riding away if they were threatened by a cavalry charge on open ground.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:56
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True dragoons were mostly useful as anti-partisan troops by the Napoleonic era. Not sure about earlier.
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Dec 10, 2015 16:58
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HEY GAL posted:four or five to one.
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Dec 10, 2015 18:07
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my dad posted:Though a well placed ditch now does a much better job than before. They just steer around ditches. Some dude in the middle east thread has a cousin in the peshmerga or something like that, he says the killdozers are giving them all kinds of headaches 
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Dec 10, 2015 18:13
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The problem being, you can't dig ditches when you're on the offensive.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:True dragoons were mostly useful as anti-partisan troops by the Napoleonic era. Not sure about earlier. Accoriding to a book I'm reading right now, British Dragoons were basically cavalry by the Nine Years War, apparently "borrowing" pistols from the cavalry when they went out scouting. So I'm guessing the dragoons transitioning in most nations happened between the 1650s and 1690s.
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Dec 10, 2015 19:21
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Tias posted:They just steer around ditches. Some dude in the middle east thread has a cousin in the peshmerga or something like that, he says the killdozers are giving them all kinds of headaches My understanding is it's just tower defense. The ditches and barriers are just to stall for time while the snipers, RPGs, grenade launchers, and ATGMs take aim. I think the US just had enough barriers and anti-vehicle firepower to blow up most VBIEDs that came at them. But it looks like rebel and SAA checkpoints can only hold out if there's a crack sniper, RPG user, or ATGM user, because it takes far too long to stop a concrete-covered bulldozer with poorly aimed small arms fire.
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Dec 10, 2015 20:27
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As much as this thread loves its alt-history discussions I'm surprised we haven't mentioned "The Man in the High Castle" got made into a series by Amazon. 
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Dec 10, 2015 21:02
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bewbies posted:As much as this thread loves its alt-history discussions I'm surprised we haven't mentioned "The Man in the High Castle" got made into a series by Amazon. It doesn't really get into a lot of military stuff.
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Dec 10, 2015 21:10
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I think it was briefly mentioned a few months ago closer to when the series was announced, mostly with eye rolling about the absurdity of the premise.
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Dec 10, 2015 21:14
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bewbies posted:As much as this thread loves its alt-history discussions I'm surprised we haven't mentioned "The Man in the High Castle" got made into a series by Amazon. The book was really boring. Is the show good?
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Dec 10, 2015 21:30
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HEY GAL posted:scratch that, apparently the ratio varied, not to mention that wine was often strong and sweet so it would keep better. so pick a high alcoholic Hispanic wine and put however much water in it you want. Water down a decent Rioja? 
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Dec 10, 2015 21:36
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 (How'd that happen?)Anyway, when Rome controlled the whole Mediterranean, did it maintain much of a fighting navy or was transportation the only concern?
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Dec 10, 2015 21:40
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Hogge Wild posted:The book was really boring. Is the show good? I liked both the book and the show, personally. That map doesn't seem to apply in one respect though - the show makes it sound like east coast America is literally part of Germany, where the German SS seems has direct jurisdiction (unlike in real life, where only bits of Europe that might actually be counted as largely populated by German speakers if you squinted at them in a good light were directly annexed to Germany and everywhere else was client states and the Nazis went through cooperative local police).
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Dec 10, 2015 22:03
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Arbite posted:
I think that this is a more correct map wrt. the book:  And after Rome had beaten its Mediterranean enemies, it stopped spending money on a massive fighting navy. The Wikipedia article is quite good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_navy Hogge Wild fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 22:21
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Arbite posted:
That is my question as well e: drained the Mediterranean and turned it into farmland?! Haha, boy, and you think the former USSR messed up the environment... Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 22:25
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Arbite posted:
Germany already owns a vast frozen wasteland in in the the bits of Russia they annexed. 
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Dec 10, 2015 22:29
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MikeCrotch posted:By the way, Mike Duncan has just started the Haitian revolution on revolutions podcast after finished the French revolution. Check that poo poo out I want to like Revolutions. I'm about 10 episodes in now but he just spends so much time giving you the minutia of which army marched where and when. Maybe it would be more interesting with a map but in podcast form it gets really boring. The political parts are pretty good though, just too little and too spread out.
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Dec 10, 2015 22:48
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Nebakenezzer posted:That is my question as well Now, I'm no farmer, but wouldn't that be a massive headache to farm? I remember reading how the Belgians turbo-hosed their agriculture when they flooded their lowlands in WW1 to slow the Germans. Apparently deluging your dirt with salt water isn't a good thing when it comes to growing crops there later. And that was only a bit of land in a country the size of Belgium. Wouldn't getting all the salt out of a drained Med be a huge deal? Also, is the sort of silt on the bottom of your average large body of water really suitable farmland?
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Dec 10, 2015 23:45
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Cyrano4747 posted:Now, I'm no farmer, but wouldn't that be a massive headache to farm? I remember reading how the Belgians turbo-hosed their agriculture when they flooded their lowlands in WW1 to slow the Germans. Apparently deluging your dirt with salt water isn't a good thing when it comes to growing crops there later. And that was only a bit of land in a country the size of Belgium. Wouldn't getting all the salt out of a drained Med be a huge deal? it wouldnt work, and the book wasn't written by a scientist
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Dec 10, 2015 23:54
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if you're arguing about feasibility you already don't "get" philip k dick
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Dec 11, 2015 00:07
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I want to like Revolutions. I'm about 10 episodes in now but he just spends so much time giving you the minutia of which army marched where and when. Maybe it would be more interesting with a map but in podcast form it gets really boring. The political parts are pretty good though, just too little and too spread out. Are you listening from the start i.e. the English Civil War bit? Skip ahead to the French revolution, that is much more based on personalities and politics than the ECW. I don't know what the American Revolution one is like since I haven't listened to it, that period of history doesn't interest me much.
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HEY GAL posted:if you're arguing about feasibility you already don't "get" philip k dick Yup. PKD was all about allegory and poo poo, actual science had very little to do with any of his stuff. If you want the same kind of thing but with more sci in your fi, you go to Heinlein.
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Slavvy posted:Yup. PKD was all about allegory and poo poo, actual science had very little to do with any of his stuff. If you want the same kind of thing but with more sci in your fi, you go to Heinlein. lol
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Dec 11, 2015 00:17
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HEY GAL posted:if you're arguing about feasibility you already don't "get" philip k dick
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not alfred bester from the tv show, alfred bester from the old rear end booksArquinsiel posted:As I understand it, the correct way to interpret his work is to take a long drag on an imaginary joint and say "so what it, like," and then state the premise of the book.
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Hogge Wild posted:it wouldnt work, and the book wasn't written by a scientist Atlantropa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxPvvcHIpc It's scary to think that in some alternate universe they really did this. Nenonen fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 00:48
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The Man in the High Castle isn't really a realistic alternate history at all, but I still like its portrayal for how it captures the mad ambition of the Nazis, in a way that stuff like Fatherland doesn't.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Now, I'm no farmer, but wouldn't that be a massive headache to farm? I remember reading how the Belgians turbo-hosed their agriculture when they flooded their lowlands in WW1 to slow the Germans. Apparently deluging your dirt with salt water isn't a good thing when it comes to growing crops there later. And that was only a bit of land in a country the size of Belgium. Wouldn't getting all the salt out of a drained Med be a huge deal? Hi, I'm an oceanographer.  The Mediterranean is a really salty and warm body of water as they go, and has very restricted exchange through the Straits of Gibraltar which has a shallow sill. Remember that the last ~2.5ma have been regular glacial/interglacial cycles and guess what happens during a glacial when the sea level drops, or due to tectonics Gibraltar clogs up? Most/all of the Med evaporates, this has happened several times and there are fucknormous deposits of evaporite salt minerals on the bottom of the Med already. In terms of large scale geo-engineering projects it's pretty feasible to evaporate the Med, but you would indeed have extreme problems with salt. You'd be creating huge salt flats which will blow dust everywhere and poison existing farmland more than it creates good fertile new land. As far as I know the sediments on the bottom of the Med would not be terribly fertile. You have a lot of lithogenic (rock erosion) sediments from the large mountain ranges that drain into it, but there aren't many major river delta systems that would feed organic material. Like, the Gulf of Mexico, Ganges Delta, or Benguela Upwelling all are getting loaded with tasty organics from their respective river systems, but you don't have much like that in the Med other than the Nile Delta. So yeah it's a really dumb and implausible scenario. Edit: the Med is close to 4% salt by mass. Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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