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Angry Grimace posted:Just like Force of Will. there is this empty spot next summer for a reprint set.
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RubberJohnny posted:
Wastes is cool. But yeah the bismuth one looks much better.
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Dec 11, 2015 19:14
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We haven't seen any non-fullart wastes yet, right? I hope they're rare and super expensive.
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Dec 11, 2015 19:18
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misdirection, swords, brainstorm, all of MM2, exploration, etc all reprinted in last year but there is no way that wotc could reprints cards and not put them in standard.
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Dec 11, 2015 19:19
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Indonesia doesn't get in on breakers. Lame.
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Dec 11, 2015 19:25
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born on a buy you posted:misdirection, swords, brainstorm, all of MM2, exploration, etc all reprinted in last year but there is no way that wotc could reprints cards and not put them in standard. Stifle, Pernicious Deed, and Spiritmonger too! I wish Spiritmonger was playable, that card blew my mind when it was first printed 
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Dec 11, 2015 19:26
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Gensuki posted:Was there a common (C) card revealed, or is it just Cozy? Nope. We did get one of the other mythics spoiled with Kozi back during the initial leaks, though. 
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Dec 11, 2015 19:29
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:lmao team usa already eliminated from the world cup. this was sufficiently believable for a real world cup that i forgot this thread was talking about a magic tournament for a moment england also sucking just reinforced it for several posts
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Dec 11, 2015 19:29
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Foil wastes will be expensive, even if just for EDH.
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Molybdenum posted:Foil wastes will be expensive, even if just for EDH. I want to see that beautiful foil bismuth 
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Dec 11, 2015 19:43
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Is Thoughtpicker witch a good card? Its abiity seems like Jace, the Jacejace's +2. You get to see what card they draw, and remove the worse of two cards, and it exiles if you're a Timmy/Johnny and want to make an eldrazi processor deck without any ingest...
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Dec 11, 2015 19:52
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Gensuki posted:Is Thoughtpicker witch a good card? Its abiity seems like Jace, the Jacejace's +2. You're going down on card advantage every time you do this. Also it costs mana unlike Viscera Seer, so you can't use it for an infinite combo easily. E: I will say I played with it a lot and I thought it was really good when I was less than a year into the game, playing it in a casual BG token/sacrifice deck with Golgari Germinations. This was back when my playgroup in high school barely owned any rares and had never played in a sanctioned event.
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Dec 11, 2015 19:55
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The only reason the Lantern deck kindof works is that most people have no or very few answers to artifacts. Witch they would just kill.
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Dec 11, 2015 19:57
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Gensuki posted:Is Thoughtpicker witch a good card? Its abiity seems like Jace, the Jacejace's +2. it was marginally playable in limited but maybe as like a 24th or 25th card (RGD was a 15-16 land format  )it paled in comparison to some other sac outlets like elvish skycutter or golgari rotwurm but it had its niche although, the price wasn't as high back then since damage used the stack. you could trade a 2/2, stack damage, then activate thoughtpicker, which is why it was marginally useful. Zoness fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 20:10
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Death Bot posted:In the sense that Orange Fluffy Sheep used it, specifically that it doesn't play nice with converge and demands that you don't play 5+D decks... that's exactly the point. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more saying "It doesn't play nice with converge, therefore parasitic" is really pretty dumb, because Converge is the thing that asks you to distort your mana base with dual land rainbow vomit, whereas {C} in theory just asks you to play a certain number of wastes and/or colorless utility lands that are often worth playing anyway. But the Overton window has shifted so far towards 4+ color good stuff that we see what is more or less a mono-color theme (even if the "color" is something new) as being the parasitic one. As an aside, C being the official letter isn't going to stop me from making a million jokes about wanting the D, getting the D, etc.
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JerryLee posted:As an aside, C being the official letter isn't going to stop me from making a million jokes about wanting the D, getting the D, etc. You are the pillar of humor thrust upon this thread.
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Dec 11, 2015 20:22
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Can't wait for FNM tonight so I can see how many adults I actually know are upset about small, non-functional, changes to this card game for children. 
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Dec 11, 2015 20:22
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Thoughtpicker Witch has one purpose and it is to make insufferable Ghave decks even less fun.
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Dec 11, 2015 20:31
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Design can probably be blamed for a lot that's wrong with this block, but at least Maro wanted to do the colorless symbol in BFZ but got voted down.quote:Why was the colorless mana symbol added in OGW and not BFZ?
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Dec 11, 2015 20:54
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NivMizzet posted:Design can probably be blamed for a lot that's wrong with this block, but at least Maro wanted to do the colorless symbol in BFZ but got voted down. Seems to make sense to me. Print it when it becomes relevant. Piece of cake.
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Dec 11, 2015 20:56
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Or reverse the order: diamond mana in the large fall set, Devoid in the small winter set. It's not like they had any mechanics for the fall set when design handed off the file.
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Dec 11, 2015 20:57
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I can't believe this entirely eldrazi-themed mechanic meant to work with eldrazis doesn't play well with this mechanic belonging to the people who are fighting against the eldrazi! Why would WotC pull this bullshit on us????
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Dec 11, 2015 21:04
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Sickening posted:Seems to make sense to me. Print it when it becomes relevant. Piece of cake. It was just as relevant before as any other template change that they've ever implemented. Tap changed to T and then to ⤵️ outside of a "physical positions matter" set and "Unblockable" became "Cannot Be Blocked" outside of an "unblockable matters" set. Implementing a diamond-shaped colorless mana symbol in a set with marquee colorless creatures stomping around diamond-shaped hedrons is perfectly apropos, even if it wasn't going to do anything yet.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:17
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Eikre posted:It was just as relevant before as any other template change that they've ever implemented. Tap changed to T and then to ⤵️ outside of a "physical positions matter" set and "Unblockable" became "Cannot Be Blocked" outside of an "unblockable matters" set. Implementing a diamond-shaped colorless mana symbol in a set with marquee colorless creatures stomping around diamond-shaped hedrons is perfectly apropos, even if it wasn't going to do anything yet. I can't fathom why anybody would give this much of a poo poo about this. 
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Dec 11, 2015 21:20
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NivMizzet posted:Design can probably be blamed for a lot that's wrong with this block, but at least Maro wanted to do the colorless symbol in BFZ but got voted down. They probably voted him down because he handed them the BFZ design file, which they also voted down.
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So my redraft pool tonight is garbage. Highest card is foil forest (not the good one) at 5.60 tcg mid. Why is Kiora under 5 dollars? I know she doesn't have a deck just now, but she's a good card, and will be in standard for ages yet!
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Dec 11, 2015 21:27
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mehall posted:So my redraft pool tonight is garbage. In what deck would Kiora belong as long as Jace and Nissa are around? Don't make Kiora your Narset.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:31
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mehall posted:So my redraft pool tonight is garbage. BFZ cards in general are worth less than usual because it is probably by far the most-opened set in history.
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Zoness posted:In what deck would Kiora belong as long as Jace and Nissa are around? Jace is a lot better, but I'm not certain Nissa always is. I guess I might need to wait till origins rotates out.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:34
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AlternateNu posted:Nope. We did get one of the other mythics spoiled with Kozi back during the initial leaks, though. Would this really have been overpowered if it didn't ETB tapped?
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Dec 11, 2015 21:35
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Entropic posted:Would this really have been overpowered if it didn't ETB tapped? Yes? It's a land that has a very powerful spell effect, making it ETB tapped is the only way to competitively cost the abilities.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:36
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Entropic posted:Would this really have been overpowered if it didn't ETB tapped? Picture it as the land version of this: Because that's basically what it is. It also comes down earlier and while it isn't repeatable, it's a helluva lot safer in Standard than a 5 mana 2/2 in Commander
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Dec 11, 2015 21:39
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Count Bleck posted:Picture it as the land version of this: It's also garbage anywhere else where it could be a really, really cool card in vintage/legacy/modern otherwise
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Entropic posted:Would this really have been overpowered if it didn't ETB tapped? It'd be a 5 mana clone effect off the top of your deck. That's quite powerful for a land. Even with the clause, it might be good enough as a one-of in certain decks that can recur it. Niton fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 21:45
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Niton posted:It'd be a 5 mana clone effect off the top of your deck. That's quite powerful for a land. Even with the clause, it might be good enough as a one-of in certain decks that can recur it. I mean, yeah, clone effects don't see a ton of play since they're not all that reliable, but the opportunity cost of putting this in your deck is really low so I expect it to see play.
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It's not as good as a clone since it has to be your creature but being able to cast dig through time twice for 6 mana is almost certainly good enough for standard play by itself
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Dec 11, 2015 21:57
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UberJew posted:It's not as good as a clone since it has to be your creature but being able to cast dig through time twice for 6 mana is almost certainly good enough for standard play by itself Yeah, the spell side is really good and probably the reason to put it in a deck.
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Dec 11, 2015 22:12
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Few things make me want to turn off my ssg stream more than coming back from a break and seeing loving hunt subbing in for someone.
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Sickening posted:Few things make me want to turn off my ssg stream more than coming back from a break and seeing loving hunt subbing in for someone. Matthias Hunt? What's wrong with him?
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The Lord of Hats posted:Matthias Hunt? What's wrong with him? He isn't Cedric is mostly the problem.
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