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Joementum posted:But would the Libertarians go for a loud, racist, white man who is obsessed with gold? Hard to say.
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paranoid randroid posted:bush wasnt a hated candidate in 2000 and gore lost by cutting himself loose from the clinton admin to run as his own man/a stiff wonky weirdo It's quite humorous in a sad way that at one time George W Bush was considered the same exact candidate as Al Gore. Both were boring as gently caress and moderate.
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Will Trump wear a bow tie? That's the deciding issue.
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Joementum posted:It's against Oklahoma state law to list anyone on the Presidential ballot except the Democrat and the Republican, by the way, which is why the Libertarians don't have access there. that's a pretty fuckin stupid law
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District Selectman posted:It's quite humorous in a sad way that at one time George W Bush was considered the same exact candidate as Al Gore. Both were boring as gently caress and moderate. *invades the wrong country and creates a political vacuum capable of supporting an Islamic caliphate*
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Nessus posted:Are we just assuming Trump is a completely immovable, unstumpable object who will be completely immune from any kind of established political activity whatsoever? Honestly, that’s the best model for him I’ve seen thus far.
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Nessus posted:(He has certainly done very well in the GOP primary. This is not the same thing as the general election.) This should be on the top of every page. Remember: everything going on right now is like a dispatch from the alternate reality that Michelle Bachmann lives in. This isn't a general election, its a republican election, and as such it is lovely. Just about every advantage trump has over this contest is either flipped upside down or negated in a national general, and he's not exactly starting out strong with the rest of us anyway.
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shiksa posted:that's a pretty fuckin stupid law Well without it, Oklahoma would repeatedly elect the literal nazis
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fishmech posted:Well without it, Oklahoma would repeatedly elect the literal nazis Looks like everythings coming up Oklahoma this election then!
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shiksa posted:that's a pretty fuckin stupid law Also not a real one: quote:Oklahoma: A party is defined either as a group that polled 10% for the office at the top of the ticket in the last election (i.e., president or governor), or that submits a petition signed by voters equal to 5% of the last vote cast for the office at the top of the ticket. An independent presidential candidate, or the presidential candidate of an unqualified party, may get on the ballot with a petition of 3% of the last presidential vote. That’s a higher bar than any other state, but not the same thing as “literally only Democrats and Republicans allowed”.
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fishmech posted:Well without it, Oklahoma would repeatedly elect the literal nazis
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Platystemon posted:Also not a real one: The actual effect is that only those two parties are allowed though. Nobody's been able to successfully fulfill the requirements otherwise.
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etalian posted:Trump is effective since he's the honest real Republican Id unleashed without any filtering. This isn't conservatism! These are not our values!! But I'll vote for whoever gets nominated because I'm a loving idiot who can't think for myself.
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Nessus posted:What is with that place? its a land of wind and restless ghosts, op
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P sure Oklahoma went GOP in every county/district in '12 or '08, maybe both, so he is unlikely to stump them there, if he were to somehow get on the ballot.
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a cop posted:I miss the Trump rallies
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Nessus posted:Can I ask how come? It sounds like they were all basically the same poo poo with the only excitement being "is this the one where they kill a protester" Last one i watched a woman in the crowd asked what was going to happen to the worlds women with all these immigrants around. I think that speaks for itself.
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Nessus posted:Can I ask how come? It sounds like they were all basically the same poo poo with the only excitement being "is this the one where they kill a protester" They were all very different, and exciting.
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a cop posted:They were all very different, and exciting.
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Nessus posted:Have you considered using professional wrestling as a substitute? All my favorite wrestlers are old and sad now.
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a cop posted:All my favorite wrestlers are old and sad now.
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Kasich still toadying to the party establishment, still attacking Trump. Still a failure in denial. But as far as his dumb ads have gone, this one is relatively direct and effective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMkz-ImFY6o
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a cop posted:All my favorite wrestlers are old and sad now. gtfo if you're not watching the new day
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Nessus posted:Can I ask how come? It sounds like they were all basically the same poo poo with the only excitement being "is this the one where they kill a protester" he's a weird trump e-groupie is why
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Joementum posted:It's against Oklahoma state law to list anyone on the Presidential ballot except the Democrat and the Republican, by the way, which is why the Libertarians don't have access there. 
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Platystemon posted:Also not a real one: Ah, once again reality is not as entertaining as fantasy.
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Chris Christie posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisChristie/status/675460968885977089  chris christie snatching the geriatric vote from jeb's grasping hands! primaries can't get here soon enough, these people might not still be around in feb
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Michael Corleone posted:P sure Oklahoma went GOP in every county/district in '12 or '08, maybe both, so he is unlikely to stump them there, if he were to somehow get on the ballot. Oklahoma was one of only two states in 2008 that voted more Republican than they did in 2004, for some odd reason (black President).
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establishment republicans could match trumps rally numbers if they broadcast live from the terminal care wing of a retirement home. for a few minutes at least
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Today we have a new Rueters national GOP poll, the first national survey after Trump's controversial remarks about Muslims, that shows his definitive fall from grace... Dec 04, 2015 - Dec 11, 2015 (612 respondents) Trump 35% Carson 12% Rubio 11% Cruz 10% Bush 8% Christie 5% Fiorina 4% Huckabee 3% Santorum 2% Others w/e http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-exclusive-idUSKBN0TU2ME20151211
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Intel&Sebastian posted:This should be on the top of every page. Remember: everything going on right now is like a dispatch from the alternate reality that Michelle Bachmann lives in. This isn't a general election, its a republican election, and as such it is lovely. You should check out the polls on how Americans in general are responding to the SB terrorism. Hint: they are freaking the gently caress out. If nothing else happens from now till election day Hillary is safe, sure. Except a majority of Americans now expect more terrorist attacks within the next couple months, and if that plays out Trump very much has the advantage going into general. Like if France can vote for FN what exactly is stopping the US from doing a similar vote? Hillary is no Obama, she can't rely on campaign skills and a weak field keeping evangelicals/ white voters home, this is very much an election that is in play for the right whether it is trump or cruz. Peachstapler posted:Today we have a new Rueters national GOP poll, the first national survey after Trump's controversial remarks about Muslims, that shows his definitive fall from grace... I've been totally calling this since Paris, lol. It's played out pretty much exactly like I said it would.
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New Hampshire poll just came out a few hours ago from Adrian Gray Consulting (???): Survey dates: 12/6-12/8 (525 respondents) Trump 19% Rubio 18% Cruz 11% Carson 9% Bush 8% Christie 8% Kasich 6% Paul 5% Fiorina 2% Huckabee 2% Graham/Pataki/Santorum 1% Gilmore 0% I think today's polls are clear. Jeb! is making a comeback.
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Peachstapler posted:Today we have a new Rueters national GOP poll, the first national survey after Trump's controversial remarks about Muslims, that shows his definitive fall from grace... Peachstapler posted:New Hampshire poll just came out a few hours ago from Adrian Gray Consulting (???):
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Mitt Romney posted:Oklahoma was one of only two states in 2008 that voted more Republican than they did in 2004, for some odd reason (black President). Considering the difference between 2008 / 2004 was .08% or a whole 400 votes I'm going to go with no on this one. Google: statistical significance.
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4 more days and Donald Trump will be in complete decline, yup, Jeb, good one.
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The Constitution Party people I know have all "endorsed Ted Cruz." I expect that the party will too.
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