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Yea highwayman is the other guy that I don't use much honestly. His skills have a nice spread, they just feel like they lack the punch of other options once you're in level 3 or 5 dungeons. Do you use bounty hunter in slot 3, or push him up into the front? Flashbang is a good stun, but there are a lot of stun options so that never feels compelling to me. Maybe I'll look at using him in a rank 3 setup, sometimes I'm not sure how I'm setting up my back-line, and that could be a solid damage option. I've found if I'm using a marking person that arbelest is amazing. Sniper shot stars off worse than collect bounty, but it scales a lot better, and her camp buff is straight up way better. Also mark removal, and emergency heal options. I prefer occultist over vestal for healing, which gives you a marking option from not the dps person, and with occultist camp speed buff you can have him set to go first almost always. Jester stress removal is pretty big now. I haven't tried him in higher level dungeons, and I wouldn't bring him to kill a boss, but as a general "bring him along and don't worry about stress" guy he is pretty solid. 10 base on the stress removal, +1 per rank. The group buff is decent as well, spend round 1 and maybe 2 on that, spend the rest of his turns mopping up any stress. Could probably do something like jester-occ-abom-maa/hell and have abomination hulk out every fight and still end the dungeon with almost no stress.
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Gabriel Pope posted:Sure, but this is only true if you get a huge haul at the end of the run/only have 1 or 2 stacks of supplies left. Say you're on an exploration run, fairly low on health, and the last hallway and room is unscouted--you're going to want to hold onto your last 4 food in case of starvation, your last shovel in case there's a barricade, and you're probably still going to want to hold onto your bandages in case of crab. If the end of the hall/last room is empty... welp, there goes 75% of your potential profit. Even if there's a fight and/or treasure, there's no guarantee you're going to get enough loot to fill up 3 slots, and it probably won't be full stacks if you do. If it gets to the point where not having a bandage is going to break the run I would probably retreat anyway.
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New patch hit, adjusting the man-at-arms riposte again. Things I learned recently: Don't use riposte in a mushroom fight 
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:New patch hit, adjusting the man-at-arms riposte again. Why, what happens?
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The mushroom men have a special attack against marked targets that does double the damage of their normal hit. If they crit with that in a level 1 dungeon they're putting almost any class on death's door (does about 25 damage). Riposte self-marks the man-at-arms, so the two front mushroom men will focus fire him with double damage attacks.
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Queston: What does the Swine King do if you use Rallying Flare to delete Wilbur's marks?
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Mzbundifund posted:Queston: What does the Swine King do if you use Rallying Flare to delete Wilbur's marks? He does a weaker, less accurate attack at a random target.
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Ok cool, thanks. I was afraid he would see that there were no marks and his AI would go into "Wilbur is dead" mode.
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Has anyone else felt like they've mucked with curio generation this patch? I feel like I've been seeing some differences, most notably in walls. Like I just got out of a long weald dungeon that had only 1 or 2 walls, when I would expect 4 normally.
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Aw come one. New game, first dungeon and guess what ? I run into The Collector..... Update: so of course I wiped and started a new game. Guess what I got this time on the first run ? The Shambler !! This game hates me so much. Hammerstein fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Alright, so this may be a bit of a long shot, but here goes: is there a way to transfer save data between Steam accounts? I started playing the game on an alternate account but recently found out there will be achievements, which means I'm going to be playing the game on my main one once the game leaves Early Access and I had an early file that was going particularly well, very good RNG rolls on early trinkets and quirks. I wouldn't mind keeping that start for when the game goes live. I'm probably SOL, but I figured I might as well ask.
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Man at Arms up: http://www.darkestdungeon.com/darkest-dungeon-presents-the-man-at-arms/
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Soothing Vapors posted:Man at Arms up: This one's a little confusing. Who is getting blown up at the end? The man-at-arms? But he survives? I don't get it.
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Zaphod42 posted:This one's a little confusing. Who is getting blown up at the end? The man-at-arms? But he survives? I don't get it. He's disgraced because he just lost a very important round of Capture the Flag
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S.J. posted:He's disgraced because he just lost a very important round of Capture the Flag Hahaha pretty much. I mean I guess there's a mace in the explosion so it means its him getting hit by the cannonball, but he lives? Or is this his death story?  I guess the idea is that guy he was trying to carry didn't make it but its not super well communicated.
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he seems to have cut someones head in half with a mace, which is a drat fine trick also it kind of looks like hes alone at the end, which says to me that he has some survivors guilt kind of thing going on
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I recall he was on the receiving end of an ambush that his officers basically ordered him and his squad into, and since he was loyal and obedient he went ahead and did it. And now he's all hosed up because of it.
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Zaphod42 posted:Hahaha pretty much. I think it's a near miss and the explosion KOs him. I agree that the action does not read as well as the last couple strips.
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These comics so far have been kind of bad all around because there's only so much that you can fit onto a single page, and the stories so far have definitely been bigger than a single page can allow. Like in the Highwayman's, did he blast his son and wife or some poo poo? There appears to be a family resemblance there, but let's be honest with DD's art style, he looks like he's related to the carriage guards too. Or if it's just some random kid and he's guilt-ridden about killing a kid, how did that scruple even come about for him? This is a guy who is killing people for their money, codes of ethics are not exactly universal here and I think the entire thing bears some explaining. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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Coolguye posted:These comics so far have been kind of bad all around because there's only so much that you can fit onto a single page, and the stories so far have definitely been bigger than a single page can allow. youve never seen that old cliche of the hardened killer who doesnt do women and children?
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i mean he just shot randomly into a carriage full of something he couldnt see. it doesnt seem reasonable that this man also doesnt want to kill some class of people i think its just a poorly done comic because its a single page (like the others)
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No reason to think they're related to him AFAIK, its just the art style. I imagine it's something like Omar in The Wire, he's fine killing dudes who are in the game but he doesn't just blast random citizens. He's not a sociopath or anything, he used to be a normal dude but his life fell apart. We know from the dialogues that he used to be a candlemaker, then a tax collector, that he went to prison and only became a robber after that, and that he feels bad about his past ("I can hear the ghosts of my victims past scream for my soul!"), and that he firmly believes he should be executed (it shows up in numerous mental state dialogues, not just bad ones) but has decided to have some fun until then.
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It's also come up in game when he had a crisis. He sometimes yells "You have her face! How can you have her face!" so she's probably at least someone he knew.
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On the MAA, I think the implication is - besides thisArtificer posted:I recall he was on the receiving end of an ambush that his officers basically ordered him and his squad into, and since he was loyal and obedient he went ahead and did it. And now he's all hosed up because of it. that either A) he was trying to get back to safe ground (presuming the flag's his force's base camp) with the injured boy, got stabbed by the swordsman, and then hit by the friendly cannon we saw at the start (so he's beating himself up over his failure to save the lad's life and the friendly fire incident) or B) charging the enemy (presuming flag is enemy's side), got intercepted because he didn't fall back to save the boy in his arms who then died to enemy cannon fire (so he basically wasted the boy's life to try and seize a piece of cloth). The fact it's so open to interpretation is not necessarily a good thing. I rather liked the Highwayman and Abom ones though, so  Some work, some don't.
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incidentally i got an irrational vestal for the first time yesterday and she is, uh.... preeeetty hosed up
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paranoid randroid posted:youve never seen that old cliche of the hardened killer who doesnt do women and children?  that doesnt answer my question tho Soothing Vapors posted:He's not a sociopath or anything, he used to be a normal dude but his life fell apart. We know from the dialogues that he used to be a candlemaker, then a tax collector, that he went to prison and only became a robber after that, and that he feels bad about his past ("I can hear the ghosts of my victims past scream for my soul!"), and that he firmly believes he should be executed (it shows up in numerous mental state dialogues, not just bad ones) but has decided to have some fun until then. perhaps there should have been more pages
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paranoid randroid posted:incidentally i got an irrational vestal for the first time yesterday and she is, uh.... preeeetty hosed up Yup. Turns out being forced into a holy order as a kid by a uncaring mother will gently caress you up, huh. Mind you, that's not touching whatever the hell happened to the Abomination. Or what kind of 'parties' the Jester used to entertain.
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Coolguye posted:
v  v you asked, no need to be a dickparanoid randroid posted:incidentally i got an irrational vestal for the first time yesterday and she is, uh.... preeeetty hosed up yeah the vestal is straight up hosed up
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Soothing Vapors posted:v
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idk man the comics appear to me to just be little tiny vignettes to characterize the dudes moreso than some kind of authoritative canonical backstory/rich worldbuilding
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I didn't go far in the game so I didn't knew the tidbits the characters said were more than semi random vague allusions to events you weren't privy to. On one hand it's kinda neat. On the other... having all highwaymen, all vestals have the same background is rather silly.
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i think its supposed to be like TF2 where, from a story perspective, theres only one of each of them.
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TF2 embraces the slapstick inherrent to being a mmofps though. DD doesn't have that kind of humour.
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Iceclaw posted:I didn't go far in the game so I didn't knew the tidbits the characters said were more than semi random vague allusions to events you weren't privy to. If that bothers you then just say that's only one backstory for one highwayman? I don't see this as a big deal at all. Who cares??
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Is there a text dump link with all the crazy barks? I've been lucky enough not to have too many crazy breaks (because I withdraw like a coward when things begin to go sour).
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Ramc posted:Is there a text dump link with all the crazy barks? I've been lucky enough not to have too many crazy breaks (because I withdraw like a coward when things begin to go sour). Darkest Dungeon/Localization/Dialogue.string_table.xml Every bit of hero dialogue is in there, though it is pretty massive and even doing a CTRL+F for specific classes will take a while to read it all.
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If you want to save the trouble of going through the xml (which is pretty cool and totally worth it but hard to read), here is some guy's summary on reddit. Missing the Abom. https://www.reddit.com/r/darkestdungeon/comments/3jrr8u/lore_characters_backstories/ I would 100% be down for a full length Darkest Dungeon ~graphic novel~ or something, I enjoy the art style and the setting v. much Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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Did I hear somewhere that Wayne June was going to do a Darkest Dungeon narrator announcer pack for DOTA 2 or was that just the moon talking?
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Snollygoster posted:Did I hear somewhere that Wayne June was going to do a Darkest Dungeon narrator announcer pack for DOTA 2 or was that just the moon talking? During one of the dev streams, they were talking about doing an announcer pack, but said that they were going to make sure that Wayne June's schedule was free enough to get what they need to finish the game before they would start to put that together. John, the community manager who does the streams, is apparently a big DOTA fan and he said he has a personal interest in seeing this happen.
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