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boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

it means put on a suit and take 50 copies of your resume and go door to door badgering receptionists until you get an interview with the owner of a company and you just show him how hard you are willing to work and that you have gumption, dammit, and he wont be able to say no

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Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Just lol if you can't afford a mortgage at the age of 21 like my da' did. Why are you renting, son? That's a huge waste of money. Just buy a damned house!

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
What if the work they offer you is sucking their cock from 9 to 5, would you have to take it on account of the gumption

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

depends on the pay

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Suck the cock sure, but don't agree to fondle the balls unless they give at least 5% matching on a 401K

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy


Mariana Horchata posted:


Snake People will make up 50 percent of the U.S. workforce by 2030. (Bureau of Labor Statistics)
--Yeah but by then we'll be Gen Xers

23 percent of companies reported having heavy contact with parents of snake person employees. (Collegiate Employment Research Institute)
--so like >1% of snake people minimum depending on the average size of the companies, and let's not forget emergency contact info

4 percent of employers involved reported parents attended their children’s job interviews. (CERI)
--loving lol though (though mentally disabled people can do jobs too and I can see their caregivers helping them interview for lack of ADA resources)

31 percent of employers involved reported parents submitted resumes on behalf of their offspring. (CERI)
--I mean that's how Donald Trump and George W. Bush got their jobs so

80 percent of snake people <use their phones as alarm clocks>. (The Plissken Faction Research Review)
--reduces e-waste

15 percent of snake people, versus 7 percent of Gen Xers at a similar stage of life, said having a high-paying career is important. (The Plissken Faction Research Review)
--selfish bastards

Snake Person unemployment rate in January 2013 increased to the highest rate recorded for this demographic to 13.1 percent versus the national average of 7.1 percent. (U.S. Department of Labor.)
--lazy bastards

56 percent of snake people think technology helps people use their time more efficiently. (Pew Social Trends)
--lol if you cook your mastodon flank without a campfire

14 percent of snake people use Twitter. (Pew Social Trends)
--holy gently caress i thought it would be way more

31 percent of snake people said they earn enough money to lead the kind of life they want, versus 46 percent of Gen Xers. (Pew Social Trends)
--unproductive bastards

41 percent of snake people have no landline at home and rely on their cellphones for communication. (Pew Social Trends)
--reducing more e-waste good job everyone


lol @ non-STEMillennials. I'm both lazy and productive!

Stinky_Pete fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 13, 2015

The_Angry_Turtle
Aug 2, 2007

BLARGH
We live in a glorious age when the process to become a volunteer with a non-profit requires about the same amount of work as a job application and is almost as likely to result in rejection because they have so many applicants.

Today I learned the concessions stands at the basketball stadium here are almost entirely staffed by unpaid volunteers whose hours are converted into donations to whatever charity is on the roster that night. Wonder what PR genius figured out they could get slave labor under the guise of charitable donation.

Rod Munch
Jul 17, 2001

Efexeye posted:

that is my favorite employment advice of all time from olds- 'just get out there and pound that pavement! and don't take no for an answer!'

That was my dad about 20 years ago, I was lazy for not having a job or two jobs after I was a week out of college. He also thought I should consider joining the military since I couldn't find work. Then he died, I got a decent job a year or so later and my mom paid off my college with his retirement money. Probably some solid advice for olds...just die right away once your earning power is over.

I do get the old people contacting companies or sending resumes for their kids things. I get people age 50+, who I haven't seen for 20 years asking me to "talk to the head guy" and get a job for their kid or relative in their 20's. They then are disappointed that the most I could do is put in a good word, and maybe help get an interview.

Nolgthorn
Jan 30, 2001

The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense
Selling out used to mean something. Now it's what kids aspire towards and generally fail at achieving. They go on youtube and tell people to stop hating just because you're "successful", having gotten a job shilling necklaces. You're supposed to be carving out a place for yourself in society not wetting your lips over rubbing old people's backs.

Then you complain when there aren't enough backs to rub. I literally blame this recession on millennials.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I'm a manager in retail and constantly get parents coming in saying "MY SON WOULD BE SO GOOD FOR THIS - LET ME HAVE AN APPLICATION".

Then the parent brings back the application.

Then the parent starts coming in randomly to ask why their kid hasn't gotten hired yet.

Newsflash: it's obvious your kid is worthless and you want them out of your house - if they don't even have the ambition to come in and fill out a goddamn application themselves, they're not getting an interview

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

It's still boggling my mind. How do you look someone in the eyes in an interview knowing that they got an elevator pitch from your mum? Like, not even nepotism, she just applied out of the blue on your behalf.

Schnedwob
Feb 28, 2014

my legs are okay

EugeneJ posted:

I'm a manager in retail and constantly get parents coming in saying "MY SON WOULD BE SO GOOD FOR THIS - LET ME HAVE AN APPLICATION".

Then the parent brings back the application.

Then the parent starts coming in randomly to ask why their kid hasn't gotten hired yet.

Newsflash: it's obvious your kid is worthless and you want them out of your house - if they don't even have the ambition to come in and fill out a goddamn application themselves, they're not getting an interview

this is my little brother to a t. he just sorta watches twitch streams and smokes weed all day. he's 19, and he's been doing essentially the same thing for a couple years now, and will probably continue to for the foreseeable future.

fuckin' turd.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy

Schnedwob posted:

this is my little brother to a t. he just sorta watches twitch streams and smokes weed all day. he's 19, and he's been doing essentially the same thing for a couple years now, and will probably continue to for the foreseeable future.

fuckin' turd.

Man, who wasn't a turd when they were 19 though? Give him time.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
how does he afford weed

amusinginquiry
Nov 8, 2009

College Slice
I mean, just walking in to places does actually work for retail/minimum wage jobs sometimes. You're unlikely to find a 60k+ job that actually uses whatever stupid degree you got. Or you can get a job that pays under the table that way usually.

There's definitely more you can do while looking for work than just apply on Monster all day and cry about how no one will hire you.

amusinginquiry
Nov 8, 2009

College Slice
Also hirsute is a cool word. I don't know what it means, but that's OK

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

The_Angry_Turtle posted:

We live in a glorious age when the process to become a volunteer with a non-profit requires about the same amount of work as a job application and is almost as likely to result in rejection because they have so many applicants.

Today I learned the concessions stands at the basketball stadium here are almost entirely staffed by unpaid volunteers whose hours are converted into donations to whatever charity is on the roster that night. Wonder what PR genius figured out they could get slave labor under the guise of charitable donation.

no doubt the competitive/limited job market means alot of volunteer positions are taken up by kids trying to use them as resume fodder or a means to get a job, so if u are someone who is looking to just do a few hours a week on the side as say a volunteer with the red cross im guessing that u are likely to be passed over for someone younger and/or currently enrolled in school who is likely more than willing to work a full-time schedule without any compensation or complaints. its prob easier to get a job with google in 2015 than it is to join the peace corp.

the majority of private service non-union EMTs in the US typically make less $/hr to start with than they would make if they opted to take a job at a Walmart instead. even paramedics with much heavier responsibilities working for the same service will typically be making no more than $3-5 more an hour than basic EMTs - which is still prob less $ than the highest paying Walmart gigs like working the overnight shift stocking shelves. in the case of EMTs because of the abundance of labor willing to do the job for so little (as well as organizing not being very popular in the field for whatever reason) what im saying is that this same type of poo poo even affects certain career fields where ppl are working in order to live, and it seems to be the status quo for the foreseeable future given the state of the economy and where we are heading which is circling around the loving toilet hole.



http://www.redcross.org/news/article/Millennials-Red-Cross-Is-for-You

Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Dec 13, 2015

Solstice
Mar 12, 2002

Non-violent for the entire family!
I really hate when people put early 30s into the millennial category it's wrong and dumb.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice






https://getbellhops.com/the-company/

Take Bellhops, a small-scale moving company founded by two college students in 2011. Bellhops now employs more than 8,000 part-time workers across 42 states. These student movers control their own jobs, choosing not just when and how much they work, but whether they want to take a "captain" or "wingman" role on a particular job. The flexibility and autonomy that comes with this small-scale entrepreneurship is ideal for millennials, who in survey after survey list these attributes among their most-wanted from employers. Millennials are loath to accept rigid work arrangements or stay at jobs they don't enjoy.

http://www.csindy.com/coloradosprings/in-praise-of-hipster-sellouts/Content?oid=2970973

Bellhops COO Matt Patterson told Forbes his motto is "Bellhops are entrepreneurs in their own rights." He's not exactly wrong: In a recent survey, 90 percent of working professionals defined being "an entrepreneur" as a mindset, not just "someone who starts a company." In the new lexicon, Bellhops, Uber drivers, and AirBnB hosts are all entrepreneurs.
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oh my

bless the free market providing such lifechanging opportunities to unemployed millenials, for making 'entrepreneurs' out of these millennials with gumption...which i guess is the new buzzword for 'independent consultants'. i wonder what happens if one falls backwards down ur stairs and breaks their neck or drops ur TV through ur landlords window, or forgets about having to pay taxes as well as find and afford to pay out of pocket for medical insurance they might need for when they eventually gently caress their backs up. this makes selling Cutco seem somewhat sensible in comparison.

Mariana Horchata fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Dec 13, 2015

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Solstice posted:

I really hate when people put early 30s into the millennial category it's wrong and dumb.

I think the deciding factor should be was social media use prevalent during your middle and high school years. If not, then youre not really a millennial but some weird limbo generation.

I first used the internet in middle school but facebook was invented my first year of high school

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

thathonkey posted:

I think the deciding factor should be was social media use prevalent during your middle and high school years. If not, then youre not really a millennial but some weird limbo generation.

I first used the internet in middle school but facebook was invented my first year of high school
i started using the internet around the year Facebook was founded, but i never used social media until 2011, well after it became popular. even today, the only social media i really use anymore is Facebook, iMessage, and i guess Steam if that counts.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

amusinginquiry posted:

I mean, just walking in to places does actually work for retail/minimum wage jobs sometimes. You're unlikely to find a 60k+ job that actually uses whatever stupid degree you got. Or you can get a job that pays under the table that way usually.

There's definitely more you can do while looking for work than just apply on Monster all day and cry about how no one will hire you.

I was unemployed for a summer in 2009 literally miles from anything in a small town outside of Wasilla Alaska.

I found a bike in the shed of the cabin I was staying in and I rode it a few miles until I found a lovely hotel & bar and I asked for a job. I was washing dishes the next day.

The job sucked but that's the kind of job you get from pounding pavement. Or, in my case, riding down a dirt loving road until civilization appeared.

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Is that the kind of job where they tell you to clock out but keep working or be fired? I've noticed the bottom of the barrel isn't even minimum wage, its where the owners blatantly try to steal your paycheck. I've seen some impressive disappearing acts where the storefront/whatever is empty the next day.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Ronwayne posted:

Is that the kind of job where they tell you to clock out but keep working or be fired? I've noticed the bottom of the barrel isn't even minimum wage, its where the owners blatantly try to steal your paycheck. I've seen some impressive disappearing acts where the storefront/whatever is empty the next day.

Yes it's exactly that. It's also a job where the owner of the business can't read but doesn't think you notice.

Him: "Here, read this and tell me what you think it says."

Me: "What do you think it says?"

Him: "Just read the loving thing."

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Ronwayne posted:

Is that the kind of job where they tell you to clock out but keep working or be fired? I've noticed the bottom of the barrel isn't even minimum wage, its where the owners blatantly try to steal your paycheck. I've seen some impressive disappearing acts where the storefront/whatever is empty the next day.

Maybe you have nothing to contribute to society ?

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

HEY NONG MAN posted:

Yes it's exactly that. It's also a job where the owner of the business can't read but doesn't think you notice.

Him: "Here, read this and tell me what you think it says."

Me: "What do you think it says?"

Him: "Just read the loving thing."

seems like a situation you could exploit to your advantage

The American Dream
Mar 1, 2007
Don't Forget My Balls
I got a job last year at 30 because I went to a bar after quitting my other job.

I was hired because the guy a few seats down was someone I recognized as having mutual friends from a previous job.

We talked about how 80's and 90's wrestling was better then today's wrestling and then just talked about old wrestling for 2 hours.

I was unemployed for 4 hours and in the future I'll tell my kids about this when they call wrestling gay and dumb.

Also it's bartending so ill never see them and service is a weird industry anyways as far as employment goes.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

thathonkey posted:

seems like a situation you could exploit to your advantage

I did appoint myself in charge of the roadside sign message. That was the denouement of my week.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

The American Dream posted:

I got a job last year at 30 because I went to a bar after quitting my other job.

I was hired because the guy a few seats down was someone I recognized as having mutual friends from a previous job.

We talked about how 80's and 90's wrestling was better then today's wrestling and then just talked about old wrestling for 2 hours.

I was unemployed for 4 hours and in the future I'll tell my kids about this when they call wrestling gay and dumb.

Also it's bartending so ill never see them and service is a weird industry anyways as far as employment goes.

wrestling is gay and dumb and pretty much irrelevant to your bad story

Schnedwob
Feb 28, 2014

my legs are okay

thathonkey posted:

how does he afford weed

a mystery for the ages

eric
Apr 27, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

Schnedwob posted:

a mystery for the ages

Breaking in to cars and/or houses.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Mariana Horchata posted:

no doubt the competitive/limited job market means alot of volunteer positions are taken up by kids trying to use them as resume fodder or a means to get a job, so if u are someone who is looking to just do a few hours a week on the side as say a volunteer with the red cross im guessing that u are likely to be passed over for someone younger and/or currently enrolled in school who is likely more than willing to work a full-time schedule without any compensation or complaints. its prob easier to get a job with google in 2015 than it is to join the peace corp.

This isn't that surprising, we are living in the age of the voluntary unpaid internship. People will do anything for anything to get something on their resume.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

thathonkey posted:

wrestling is gay and dumb and pretty much irrelevant to your bad story

So wrong

proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

thathonkey posted:

wrestling is gay and dumb and pretty much irrelevant to your bad story

"I got a job by making a personal connection with my future employer over a thing like a human being"
"that thing is stupid and I hate it you're both stupid!!"

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
The correct answer is "who is this rudy poo?"

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

do you like...strudel?

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

beards look terrible

Gibberish
Sep 17, 2002

by R. Guyovich

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.

The American Dream posted:

I got a job last year at 30 because I went to a bar after quitting my other job.

I was hired because the guy a few seats down was someone I recognized as having mutual friends from a previous job.

We talked about how 80's and 90's wrestling was better then today's wrestling and then just talked about old wrestling for 2 hours.

I was unemployed for 4 hours and in the future I'll tell my kids about this when they call wrestling gay and dumb.

Also it's bartending so ill never see them and service is a weird industry anyways as far as employment goes.

wrestling is the anime of sports.

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Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
Wrestling is Blood?

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