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I'm pretty sure I've seen that exact thing on a later episode of The Computer Chronicles. What I love about that show is that, as demonstrated by their many episodes dedicated to portable technology, they basically had all the same poo poo we have now twenty years ago. It just sucked and cost thousands of dollars.
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Dec 12, 2015 18:55
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Krispy Kareem posted:As for the next obsolete tech, anything you control with your voice. We don't even like talking on our phones. Why the gently caress would we want to talk to them. I have an amazon echo and it works well enough for what I use it for, basically an over priced bluetooth speaker that I can yell at to play radio/pandora and set kitchen timers.
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Dec 12, 2015 19:03
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Collateral Damage posted:A friend of mine loves the clit mouse and laments that only Thinkpads still have them. I don't understand him. My first laptop ever (at my first job out of college) was a Thinkpad and I too feel in love with the nub. Ten years later and I'd still take it over most trackpads. It's probably like if your first crush was your chubby babysitter and ever since then you have a thing for heftier women/men/nonbinary lifeforms.
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Dec 12, 2015 19:46
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twistedmentat posted:Yep. My friend who used to be a Dominatrix has one, and they were really popular with her female clients. Sex toys are nether obsolete nor failed. quote:Is there any tech right now anyone thinks that may be seen and failed/obsolete in the near future? The only thing I can think of is controllerless motion controls. The fact Xbone sales went up when it was sold without Kinect implies that people don't want it. Even controller based ones I feel are going to be relegated to specific types of games, and not being the main way games are controlled in the future. I'd like to think that smartphones as we know them now are on their last legs, but that's just optimism. I liked the clit mouse, too, because I couldn't hit it with my wrist the way I do the damned trackpad.
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Dec 12, 2015 20:56
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Dedicated computers to aid people with disabilities aren't going to be replaced with iPads and some software, because there are plenty of disabled people who can't use an iPad, and need something like a Lucy to operate a computer, regardless of what that computer does. A Lucy being a device that replaces keyboard and mouse with a panel you can point at with a laser instead. So people with minimal head or hand movement can use a computer without the requirement of being able to move, let alone lift, their own arm. It can even be configured to work with only a single push button. And because it is a self contained device, any computer just sees it as a generic usb keyboard and mouse. No drivers needed. And there are plenty highly specialized devices like that, which are very impractical to make into an iPad app or just plain impossible because the disability of someone makes it impossible for them to use an iPad to begin with.
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Dec 12, 2015 21:33
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Trabant posted:It's probably like if your first crush was your chubby babysitter and ever since then you have a thing for heftier women/men/nonbinary lifeforms. Nah it's just a flat out better input device for most office-y type stuff. There is a good reason why any proper corporate laptop will still have a trackpoint (and why people screamed so loudly when Lenovo ruined theirs during the x40 era).
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I think that calls and texting are on their way out. Most of the people I know only have voice service because their mobile Internet plan forces it on them. There is no technical reason why 99% of consumers can't switch to a VoIP service with integrated SMS tomorrow, the technology is there, and at some point the telecoms won't be able to get away with charging people for obsolete technology.
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twistedmentat posted:Were PDAs ever popular? I remember working for HP in the early 2000s and they heavily pushed their line, but as far as I can tell, no one ever bought them. From the conversations I had, people basically were wanting what would become the smart phone. Which is probably why the Blackberry was such a massive success out of the gate, even if they're nearly out of business now. I had a few varieties of Palm and some Handspring including the Prism as well as my old monster Newton 2100 (which I still have and still works great  ). My first 'smartphone was the TREO 650 actually.
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flosofl posted:
The first Newton's handwriting recognition was pretty bad but when Newton 2.0 was released, it was considered the best in the industry for 10 years. I loved my Treo 650, and still use it from time to time for various reasons. The only reason I upgraded from it to the first iPhone was because T-Mobile hosed me over on my supposed unlimited data, so I jumped ship to AT&T. empty baggie has a new favorite as of 23:48 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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Plinkey posted:I have an amazon echo and it works well enough for what I use it for, basically an over priced bluetooth speaker that I can yell at to play radio/pandora and set kitchen timers. I have one too and yeah, it's an overpriced Bluetooth speaker. If it integrated with Spotify it'd be fantastic. As it is, if I don't have my phone nearby to pair I have to be careful what I ask it to play because I'm more likely to get a cover band or karaoke version of the artist I'm requesting than the real thing. It's kind of neat asking it what's new and getting 5 minutes of news' summaries.
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empty baggie posted:I loved my Treo 650, and still use it from time to time for various reasons. The only reason I upgraded from it to the first iPhone was because T-Mobile hosed me over on my supposed unlimited data, so I jumped ship to AT&T.  I still believe that there is a place for the clamshell computer. Small enough to fit in a coat pocket, but with a keyboard that you can type decently on. Tablets are too bulky, smartphones are too small. These are just right.  Heck, if you could hack wifi and decent file sync onto a 5mx, I'd buy this hunk of 1999's tech and use it today.
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Plinkey posted:I have an amazon echo and it works well enough for what I use it for, basically an over priced bluetooth speaker that I can yell at to play radio/pandora and set kitchen timers. Its nice that its open source. I know someone with it and its basically a sassy speaker that poo poo talks her at this point. The word processor thing reminded me of the brief period when e-machines were released. They were simple computers that were designed for emailing and web browsing. Even before smartphones and tablets people didn't want these because they were junk. Plus, the concept was flawed. People didn't feel the need at the time to have instant web access from their kitchen or whatever. I also think part of its marketing being aimed at women by going on about how you can look up recipes and such sterotypical lady things. It didn't appeal to tech minded men and I'd not be surprised to find women found it sexist and condescending. Were they called emachines or was that just a brand name?
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Maybe you were thinking of something else? eMachines was a computer manufacturer that did specialize in low end stuff but they weren't awful. They would just come with a Celeron or AMD K6-2 (with 3D-NOW!!! Woo!!!) instead of a Pentium II and no 3D acceleration when stuff like a Riva TNT 2 was becoming a fairly common addition to home PCs. A friend's mom had one and it was pretty much entirely trouble free. It even survived taking a lightning strike with only a dead 33.6kbps modem to show for it.
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spog posted:
Did the 5mx have a screen ribbon less prone to destroying itself? My dad had one, and as expected, screen ribbon ate itself. There used to be a guy who sold redesigned ones (or just replacements, I forget), as they were a pretty common failure point. It was a pretty baller device though. You could send emails with an attachable modem, and it even had a digital audio recorder with buttons right on the outside! Of course, around that time I remember being more impressed with the palmtops running Windows CE. How could you not be impressed by a tiny portable windows computer?
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twistedmentat posted:The word processor thing reminded me of the brief period when e-machines were released. They were simple computers that were designed for emailing and web browsing. Even before smartphones and tablets people didn't want these because they were junk. Plus, the concept was flawed. People didn't feel the need at the time to have instant web access from their kitchen or whatever. I also think part of its marketing being aimed at women by going on about how you can look up recipes and such sterotypical lady things. It didn't appeal to tech minded men and I'd not be surprised to find women found it sexist and condescending. Yeah, as Shifty Pony said, eMachines were standard low end PCs, but there were several failed "internet appliances" at the turn of the century like the 3com Audrey  or the i-Opener.  They were all underpowered and had terrible custom operating systems limiting them to a web browser without multitasking or plugins. These were the days before HTML5, so if your browser didn't support plugins like flash, realplayer, and quicktime, the most advanced thing the browser could display was an animated gif. lazydog has a new favorite as of 02:46 on Dec 13, 2015 |
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I have, within the last year, set my 5" phone in landscape on a table, plugged in a small usb keyboard, and done reasonable amounts of work over SSH. I felt like a '90s holdover, but it was admittedly very useful. I used a lenovo keyboard, basically the X1 Carbon keyboard with USB, so as a bonus I even got to use android with a trackpoint. It works a bit better than you'd fear, though I never found a sensible way to simulate the home/back/menu button without poking at the phone.
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I kind of wish the eVilla and the other BeIA appliances would have taken off.
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lazydog posted:Yeah, as Shifty Pony said, e-machines were standard low end PCs, but there were several failed "internet appliances" at the turn of the century These are exactly what I was thinking of, including the goofy looking Audry with its weird antenna.
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mints posted:I kind of wish the eVilla and the other BeIA appliances would have taken off. Didn't they break attributes and queries in that? Which is hilarious, because those features be great for a media player... Can BeOS itself qualify here? Man I wish that it had taken off enough for other systems to steal the filesystem features at least... Computer viking posted:I have, within the last year, set my 5" phone in landscape on a table, plugged in a small usb keyboard, and done reasonable amounts of work over SSH. I felt like a '90s holdover, but it was admittedly very useful. I've done it with a bluetooth keyboard and an even smaller phone when my PC doesn't work or I'm having internet issues. It works.
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Keiya posted:Didn't they break attributes and queries in that? Which is hilarious, because those features be great for a media player... There's a universe out there where Apple bought Be instead of NextStep and used it instead. Teapots rule the day there. I'd love to see where OS X ended up with Be and without Jobs. (probably in the trash)
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Dec 13, 2015 04:08
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Keiya posted:Can BeOS itself qualify here? Man I wish that it had taken off enough for other systems to steal the filesystem features at least... The feature I miss the most is the right-click-to-navigate-folders feature in the Tracker (i.e., the file manager). And the spring-loaded folders (OS X has those, but they are unusably slow compared to how they worked in BeOS.)
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Zopotantor posted:(OS X has those, but they are unusably slow compared to how they worked in BeOS.) Lower the delay in the preferences window, if you haven’t already.
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twistedmentat posted:Its nice that its open source. I know someone with it and its basically a sassy speaker that poo poo talks her at this point. Did you mean the Eee Pc?  I kinda wanted one at the peak of their popularity, but god they look painful to use.
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monolithburger posted:Did you mean the Eee Pc? I've still got one knocking around somewhere. They were awesome and yet deeply flawed. Great: cheap enough to carry and not always be worrying about it being stolen/damaged small enough to fit in a bag and not be noticed Bad: the installed Linux software had a few bugs: including email not working the keyboard was very slow to use you could squeeze WinXP on it: but it was a real struggle to fit Turd: The screen was shite: poor colours and resolutions made everything look dull and hard to read and 1024x600 is a terrible size as all the pop-up windows invariably had their buttons below the bottom of the screen. Every time you did something, you had to scroll down to find the button to click. If they made one today with a good quality/sized screen that you could run Win7 on and everything else remained the same, I'd probably buy one.
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spog posted:I've still got one knocking around somewhere. I had the EEE 1000H (with an extra gig of RAM added) that came preloaded with XP and my god using that thing for *anything* was frustrating. Slow as balls. Astrobastard has a new favorite as of 18:42 on Dec 13, 2015 |
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I got a Samsung Windows 7 mini laptop for free which was nice because after finding out it was completely unusable I took the HDD out and put it in my PS3.
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Astrobastard posted:I had the EEE 1000H (with an extra gig of RAM added) that came preloaded with XP and my god using that thing for *anything* was frustrating. Slow as balls. I loaded one up with the lightest, usable version of linux I could find and it still had problems. The resolution being so terrible made trying to do anything a goddamned nightmare. That keyboard still gives me nightmares, too.
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I had one of the Dell Mini9s or whatever, that thing was the biggest pile of poo poo I've ever used. Screen to small, couldn't run anything. The only thing that I actually used it for was browsing the internet during my grad school classes. It's only redeeming quality was the battery life.
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Intoluene posted:I loaded one up with the lightest, usable version of linux I could find and it still had problems. The resolution being so terrible made trying to do anything a goddamned nightmare. That keyboard still gives me nightmares, too. I tried to get a lot of Linuxes set up on the Samsung just so I could use it as a light-weight IRC terminal and media streamer (because the battery life was nice and it did video and sound OK) but since Linux is Linux, if the wireless worked, the sound didn't, and vice versa, and gently caress you Linux people your free software sucks and your documentation sucks even worse and that's because you're all morons who can't even write documentation I mean for god's sake it's just English you know English right? I hope you get syphilis and your legs fall off. (Then again I've never had much problems with desktops so )
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Dec 13, 2015 22:16
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I'm sure loads of people have already mentioned the fact that Linux is a failed technology. The obsolete releases are actually way better than any of the ones from the past
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Speaking of internet appliances, WebTV. 1996-2013, so not a failure, but certainly obsolete. Can you imagine trying to view a modern website in lovely SD resolution?
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Jerry Cotton posted:I'm sure loads of people have already mentioned the fact that Linux is a failed technology. The obsolete releases are actually way better than any of the ones from the past Linux has its place and that's as a server OS. If you want UNIX on the desktop, then get OS X.
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I don't think Linux has failed... It's very prominent on smartphones. It is terrible, but isn't exactly a failure
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Jerry Cotton posted:I'm sure loads of people have already mentioned the fact that Linux is a failed technology. The obsolete releases are actually way better than any of the ones from the past I tried using ubuntu today. It is still to this day the least user friendly experience I've ever had.
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Desktop linux still sucks, but I run a bunch of Debian VMs at home because they make great servers.flosofl posted:Linux has its place and that's as a server OS. If you want UNIX on the desktop, then get OS X. Yep, pretty much.
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XYZ posted:Speaking of internet appliances, WebTV. "About 91% of visitors are on Windows. Mac users make up 5% and Linux is 2%. The other 2% are permabanned IRC trolls browsing the forums with a text-based browser written in Ruby on OpenBSD. Oh yeah, we have one guy using WebTV but I banned him because WTF." -- Radium
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