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moths posted:Another strike against Rage happened somewhere around the Las Vegas (i think?) themed expansion. That release was actually a stealth second edition, which wasn't entirely compatible with the first edition. Well, the rights to Rage were sold off to Five Rings Publishing Group, who published it as Rage Across Las Vegas. As mentioned, it was incompatible with earlier sets - I particularly hated that you were now penalized for mixing tribes, as they brought in factional mechanics similar to Legend of the Five Rings. But what's worse, it was a part of Ryan Dancey's infamous Rolling Thunder program of monthly CCG releases, and when that was cancelled, Rage Across Las Vegas went with it. As mentioned, it's had a number of continuing fan expansions (NSFW for hippo tits), mainly for the original Rage. So if you want to play an ajaba or chulorviah deck, they have you all set. 
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Did anyone really want to remember that the chulorviah existed? Blood-Dimmed Tides was so bad. (Except for Sealab 2020 killing a ton of changelings.)
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Dec 14, 2015 13:21
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What, you didn't like Vicissitude 2: Terror of the Deep?
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Dec 14, 2015 13:23
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I did like the idea of aquatic vampires latching onto dolphins and sharks because they have nothing else to eat. And, as noted, the enthusiastic marine biologists murdering the hell out of merfolk by accident.
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Dec 14, 2015 13:33
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It had a few cute ideas but was either dull or disastrous otherwise.
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Dec 14, 2015 13:39
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Yeeeeep. I wrote the F&F for that fuckin' thing. It was awful, and also dull. And it did the thing where Triat mythology slowly absorbed and consumed everything in the game that wasn't Abrahamic.
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Dec 14, 2015 13:40
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I remember Chulorviah having a writeup in Book of the Wyrm for W20, which basically amounted to "mind-controlling squid things, go full Cthulhu if you like, or Innsmouth, maybe they came from the Wyrm but who the gently caress cares, they are horrible sea monsters that want to absorb humanity". It's a good book. My favourite are the mockery breeds, artificial shapeshifters, and oh my god I haven't read this since the kickstarter draft, the Samsa "eight-foot tall bipedal cockroaches that are terrified of the dark" and rhino-men. I need to run a W20 game sometime, mostly for the saturday-morning-cartoon horror and pulp styling, and because god drat I just want to orchestrate a hunt for a Maeljin or some huge horror.
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Dec 14, 2015 16:00
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I'm in equally high-XP oVampire and nVampire games at the moment and both are equivalently fun. One is gonzo as gently caress though, in that we're Camarilla Justicars with a trans-dimensional doom fortress and worldwide conspiratorial control (and stronk stats and ridiculous powers, but I digress) whereas in the nWoD game we're obscenely capable, but still terrified and out-of-our-depth in a world where the God-Machine is loving up everything. Things that happened last session of oVampire: We shadow-teleported from our Doom Fortress to Mexico City, hosed up a load of Sabbat vampires without taking any damage, knocked out a rogue Justicar and flung him through a portal to our doom fortress, commandeered a bunch of Archons and decided we might as well kill a Red Lister and the Archbishop of Mexico while we were in the neighbourhood because it would take a few hours for our jet to catch up with us. Things that happened last session of nVampire: I lost all my memories thanks to a Mmemosyne, ran around trying to piece together what the hell was going on while a Category 3 hurricane and a load of earthquakes hosed everything up. Our Khaibit was busy rallying our ghouls and resources to track down the local Circle of the Crone because we desperately need anybody who knows sorcery to help us work out how to stop the world-shattering storms, our combat monster has taken his ghoul and has gone on a one man suicide mission to take out the big bad before she can do any more damage. The hospital is full of Cheiron group, the Strix are chasing a Julii around the place and causing mayhem, the big bad is erasing our memories, the big bad's conspiracy are hot on our trail and all of our allies are either insane, evil or both. They're both equally good although oWoD is considerably jankier and more gritty at low levels. Genuinely low-XP oWoD is way more Unknown Armies than low-XP CofD. At higher XP, oWoD rapidly ascends out of street level and into Mummies Alive, whereas CofD goes from "cool dudes in horrible situations" to "cool dudes with lots of XP in horrible situations"
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Does your Doom Fortress happen to be in the land of the dead?
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Well, the rights to Rage were sold off to Five Rings Publishing Group, who published it as Rage Across Las Vegas. As mentioned, it was incompatible with earlier sets - I particularly hated that you were now penalized for mixing tribes, as they brought in factional mechanics similar to Legend of the Five Rings. Yeah. When Rage lost its major retailer it was kicked thataway to have the last juice wringed from it, and of course it was used as part of a scheme that accelerated the collapse of the B-tier CCG market.
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spectralent posted:Yeah, I always wonder if this is some massive UK/US split or something. Every town I've lived on new RPGs are reliant on people who visit internet sites (i.e. usually me) to get any exposure. I've never been to a place where there's a vibrant community of people just organically picking up games from their local environment and encouraging a flourishing scene of diverse gaming. Yeah, it's a real pain. I moved to Bristol a few months ago and the only pre-existing groups are for wargames. The only place I've lived that actually had an RPG scene was London and it was still pretty small considering how huge the place is. Edit: Universities are probably one of the few places where it's easy to find an organised group. Mine was in a small city but the tabletop society was very large. UrbicaMortis fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Dec 14, 2015 20:17
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MalcolmSheppard posted:Yeah. When Rage lost its major retailer it was kicked thataway to have the last juice wringed from it, and of course it was used as part of a scheme that accelerated the collapse of the B-tier CCG market. Who was that retailer, anyway?
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UrbicaMortis posted:Yeah, it's a real pain. I moved to Bristol a few months ago and the only pre-existing groups are for wargames. The only place I've lived that actually had an RPG scene was London and it was still pretty small considering how huge the place is. Please tell me where you found with RPG'ing in this city. I mean I have no idea where even to start looking and any game I try and set up myself I don't have the experience with the systems to know how best to run them.
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Ambi posted:I remember Chulorviah having a writeup in Book of the Wyrm for W20, which basically amounted to "mind-controlling squid things, go full Cthulhu if you like, or Innsmouth, maybe they came from the Wyrm but who the gently caress cares, they are horrible sea monsters that want to absorb humanity". It's a good book. Yeah, Book of the Wyrm W20 is a pretty delightfully written book. It serves as a nice counterpoint to, say, Beast: the Primordial, in that it mostly takes off from the strengths and the high points of the oWoD tone, the over-the-top lurid style Loomer mentions, instead of the weaknesses. You didn't even mention how the evil world-killing corporation's best DIY shapeshifter project to date is Gordon Gekko boardroom gorilla people out to be obnoxious, self-aggrandizing winners. They reproduce by looking up and recruiting the meanest go-getters they can find, and then hitting party after party all night until their guy is either dead or flips out and goes apeshit.
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Dec 14, 2015 21:23
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Didn't nWoD initially suffer from the "sequel problem?" Ie: the pool of potential consumers was capped at the number of people interested in oWoD.
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I think I'm gonna go ahead and go with CofD since [I'd assume] WoD has a poo poo ton of metaplot stuff that you should probably know if you're playing the game
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UrbicaMortis posted:Yeah, it's a real pain. I moved to Bristol a few months ago and the only pre-existing groups are for wargames. The only place I've lived that actually had an RPG scene was London and it was still pretty small considering how huge the place is. I got to uni tabletop society to find them all playing loving pathfinder and bashing 4e 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wewNseVo24
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Sampatrick posted:I think I'm gonna go ahead and go with CofD since [I'd assume] WoD has a poo poo ton of metaplot stuff that you should probably know if you're playing the game It sometimes does, yeah. I suggest picking a 2e line that isn't Beast - Vampire, Werewolf and Demon are all excellent, Mage probably will be too. 1e is often good but also somewhat uneven mechanically and, early on, fluff wise.
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Dec 14, 2015 23:02
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People run their games on the back of established canon? That sounds like a recipie for arguments.
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Kavak posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wewNseVo24 Dang they didn't do a blurb for old changelings. I was hoping we'd smash cut to an obnoxious non-sequitur about peeing on carpets or w/e
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Dang they didn't do a blurb for old changelings. I was hoping we'd smash cut to an obnoxious non-sequitur about peeing on carpets or w/e No no, that's New Changing breeds.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Dang they didn't do a blurb for old changelings. I was hoping we'd smash cut to an obnoxious non-sequitur about peeing on carpets or w/e ONCE YOU REALLY LIKED POT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU MAN YOU GOT OLD
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Kavak posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wewNseVo24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGsv0pJemTY
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Dec 14, 2015 23:15
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Same but it's the year "2 0 1 5" and it's screencaps of the Beast corebook. Speaking of John Carpenter, Reckoning's would probably go like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P155qPVaPMA
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Dec 14, 2015 23:29
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The best reference for CofD is still the movie What We Do in the Shadows, at least for Vampire and parts of Werewolf.
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Dec 14, 2015 23:30
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Oh, and I goofed the link earlier today, the fan rage sets can found here. NSFW, once again. Hippo tits.
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UrbicaMortis posted:Yeah, it's a real pain. I moved to Bristol a few months ago and the only pre-existing groups are for wargames. The only place I've lived that actually had an RPG scene was London and it was still pretty small considering how huge the place is. Er... http://www.meetup.com/shadowrun-90/ Bristol has a roleplaying society, the primary purpose of which is to find people groups, and both universities have rpg societies. Hell, I game in Bristol, with a group I found online eight years ago a week after moving down here. There's also a Vampire LARP, which features Onyx Path Freelancer Matt Dawkins as the Prince.
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This is all second-hand, but I'm told this is Paradox explaining their plans. I haven't had a chance to watch. Highlights, apparently: The focus is moving away from the US They want to release 4-player computer games They want a series on Netflix or similar within a couple of years V:tES is coming back, as is the Elder Kindred Network They own the MMO assets and wasn't too salvage what they can They're going to crack down on unauthorized uses of their IP MET will continue but they also want to do Euro larps OP can keep doing nostalgia WoD but paradox will be taking an active hand in development They actually thought about killing the NWoD instead of just renaming it Somebody got the time to watch and summarize?
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Pope Guilty posted:They're going to crack down on unauthorized uses of their IP Like what? Those fan splats like Leviathan or something? I can't really think of much that rides WoD's coattails that isn't just a project on a forum somewhere.
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Dec 15, 2015 04:14
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I was told "the most popular Bloodlines mod" but I dunno if that's Clan Quest or wesp or what.
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If Onyx Path's tumblr is accurate, it's correct. 4th Edition is being changed into One World of Darkness, apparently.
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Daeren posted:Like what? Those fan splats like Leviathan or something? I can't really think of much that rides WoD's coattails that isn't just a project on a forum somewhere. Maybe Gangrel, the professional wrestling vampire? A brief wiki check says he's still performing somewhere, although I'm unclear whether he's still going by the name. Hey Loomer, did Gangrel the Wrestling Vampire ever get referenced in any books? I doubt it, but a man can dream. I Am Just a Box fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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Daeren posted:Like what? Those fan splats like Leviathan or something? I can't really think of much that rides WoD's coattails that isn't just a project on a forum somewhere. In its heyday, there were people running crazy VtM cruises and charging cruise-ship money to do so. I can only imagine they're talking about weird Scandinavian big money LARPs or other euro-nonsense.
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Dec 15, 2015 04:28
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Well they're ambitious, I'll give them that.
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The mod might be the "other" unofficial patch. The creator is incredibly juvenile (Porn everywhere and putting wesp's avatar or something in the game's toilets) and just plain nuts (He sealed the mod off behind a forum post wall and called wesp "Junior Hitler" in a rant just because he's German.)
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Oh yeah, Tessera or something. Dude's completely out of his loving mind. Back in the day he decided he was sick of clicking the button to cast conjure food spells in world of warcraft so he went on the forums and tried to start a mage union so he could charge for clicking the spell that makes free food.
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Pope Guilty posted:They want a series on Netflix or similar within a couple of years I know it's a longshot, but this could be really wonderful if done right. Each season focuses on a different line, like one for Vampire, then Mage, and taking place in a different part of the country but with references of events that happened in the previous season and so forth. Guy can dream. Exciting news though.
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