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extra stout posted:That owns big time, let me know what you think of it. Did you get the hard cover collection on Amazon? It's one of the last Tolkien Middle-earth things I still need to read other than his collection of letters, but I being poor have only my dreams, etc etc Yeah I got the hardcover version, I bought it from a UK seller through Amazon. It's normally $250-300 but during the holidays it dips below $200, so I had to pounce on it this year. I've heard that it's pretty difficult reading like the Silmarillion is. I feel like I'd have to read the Silmarillion a few more times before I'd fully follow everything.
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Thanks for the invite to the guild for Bighard the dwarf! I noticed that there's not much going on in our kin's front lawn. If you guys want, I do have all three stone trolls from the Hobbit that we could put there.
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ruffz posted:Yeah I got the hardcover version, I bought it from a UK seller through Amazon. It's normally $250-300 but during the holidays it dips below $200, so I had to pounce on it this year. I've heard that it's pretty difficult reading like the Silmarillion is. I feel like I'd have to read the Silmarillion a few more times before I'd fully follow everything. It's very rough and unfinished. It's really just snippets from Tolkien's journals and manuscripts that his son pieced together and edited, and it very much feels like it, but if you're Middle Earth junkie, it is a definite read. Some parts are more interesting than others, but there is definitely a lot of stuff that colors in and fills the gaps that exist from the Silmarillion and the Hobbit/LOTR/Children of Hurin. It does give you a good idea on how he built the world, so that much is definitely interesting. I'm trying to decide if I want to go Captain, Warden, or Guardian for my next character, just got a Beorning to 100 a few months ago and now I'm starting to feel the need to start the whole process over again.
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I know this got talked about a few pages ago, but I just spent the weekend playing through the Shire on a hobbit Warden (I haven't seriously played since 2010). What a great experience to go back to. I took the time to really dive deep and do everything I possibly could (other than all the chicken play quests) and saw a bunch of things that, in the past, I had slipped because I already had the questing deed or whatever. Of special note was the quest chain in Budgeford where you track down a brigand who believes the only way to lift a family curse is to kill a hobbit descendant hundreds of years removed who killed his own ancestor, and also the missing pipe-weed wagon quest where it becomes clear the stowaway hobbit hitched a ride all the way to Orthanc and saw Saruman before coming back to the Shire. Also there's a deck with chairs and a great view of the Shire right outside Bag End you should check out with your graphics turned up to high. The feel of the zone is fantastic, and the very gradual progression from filling shrew burrows, to helping chickens escape wolves, to eventually thwarting goblins and brigands is all very well done. You really leave the Shire with not only a sense you're ready to get involved with the wider events in Middle-Earth, but also an appreciation of what is at stake as all the evil forces in the world take root elsewhere, with the Shire being next if it isn't stopped. Also Landroval as a server is pretty great so far. Lots of morons arguing politics like teenagers in world chat, but lots of helpful people too. I asked to buy some journeyman flax fibers for tailoring because none were on the AH, and within 5 minutes over 50 had been mailed to me from half a dozen people for free. Some other dude gave me 5g because I replied to him first, which is huge for a newbie, and another gave me some second age celebrimbor level 100 crafting thing after a short conversation, apropos of nothing. I'm really enjoying LOTRO again with the attitude of taking slow, reading the quest text, and trying to take good screenshots. It's a nice break from life and faster-paced games I usually play.
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CreedThoughts which server on you? We could use a 100 beorning, do you yellow line at all? Have you tried all of the specs and what do you think of them? Bramble: Those are good words that describe the Shire, if you're short on stuff post your name and I'll mail you some stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4srywR6Wg8 Here's a video some French guys recorded (on ultra low settings so good luck trying to see anything) where they used the bug I found where you can go down and kill Mumak melee, except Turbine patched that so they are way smarter than I am and instead decided to kill Grond with 200 traps. It accomplishes absolutely nothing, but it's lorebreaking so it'll be patched I'm sure.
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Could I also have an invite for Gwynecara please? I decided to roll a new minstrel on Landroval rather than be Yet Another Hunter. Amazed how well a minstrel can smack things down so far
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Good stuff. There is something about the overall size and natural feel of ME in this game that is just incredibly appealing compared to most games. The Shire is great and I still think Rivendell is pretty awesome whenever I go there. I haven't really been social on Landy, but people seem pretty nice so far. extra stout posted:CreedThoughts which server on you? We could use a 100 beorning, do you yellow line at all? Have you tried all of the specs and what do you think of them? I would also like to read more about Beornings since I was thinking of getting one. Anonymouse Mook posted:Could I also have an invite for Gwynecara please? I decided to roll a new minstrel on Landroval rather than be Yet Another Hunter. I didn't play one very long, but the level 10ish Minstrel I was fooling around with a week ago just ran around one shotting everything at range. I mean, every class is super easy at that point, but I never even had to stop moving. One of these nights I need to join you all, but so far I haven't been able to decide on who I want to play (warden, captain, or maybe beorning if there is a sale or something)
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You have to be logged in to get an invite, so next time you log in use the command "/who Nazgun" to see who from the kin is online. Message whoever is on and we'll see if we can round up an officer.
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Yup, that's the best way. If the person you message isn't an officer they can help point you to someone who is. (Also, PSA to all non-officers: plenty of officers have non-officer alts, so if you don't see an officer online you can kin chat to see if anyone online has an alt who is!) Anonymouse Mook posted:Could I also have an invite for Gwynecara please? I decided to roll a new minstrel on Landroval rather than be Yet Another Hunter.
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drat Dirty Ape posted:Good stuff. There is something about the overall size and natural feel of ME in this game that is just incredibly appealing compared to most games. The Shire is great and I still think Rivendell is pretty awesome whenever I go there. I haven't really been social on Landy, but people seem pretty nice so far. The game world is massive, and you could spend countless hours exploring all the little details they've put in over the years. The vanilla zones are still beautiful, I love going through the Trollshaws and Misty Mountains.
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drat Dirty Ape posted:I would also like to read more about Beornings since I was thinking of getting one. They are like captains, but you don't need a pet, and you turn into a bear... also not as good at any particular role. Blue line-Tank, they are ok, not anywhere near guardian or warden, but they can sort of do it, I would say if you were doing group play, they'd be decent off tanks. For solo survivability, oddly enough, pretty bad. Self heals are not very adequate, and I found myself in Yellow more often than not when facing harder enemies. Red line-DPS, they are very bursty. Bear mode crits are devastating, and dps in man form is not bad either. Not champion level, but you will be able to keep up pretty well, and for solo, you are also pretty durable. Not a lot in terms of AOE, but with full wrath in bear form you can drop even on-level champions in 2-3 hits if you get crits. Yellow line-god mode. You can heal out of anything solo, and your AOE bear heal is pretty amazing, the only real drawback is that it's not "on demand." You need to work up the requisite wrath cost to be able to turn into a bear and still have enough to use your heal. Otherwise you can put a beehive on someone and that person will get some of the heals you give out to others. You will also passively receive healing when you heal others. A minstrel is going to outheal you, so is a runekeeper, but the AOE healing is really good. If you are a fan of sparring, yellow line beornings don't lose them, except to dps Minstrels. Their cleanse is pretty good as well, since it removes every kind of debuff and has a low cooldown. Mounted combat is awful, second to burglar in terms of just being a pain to play. The main novelty is being a bear, and they are a very good soloing class. They are a jack of all trades, they can do every role, but they won't do it as well as someone who specializes in it.
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extra stout posted:Bramble: Those are good words that describe the Shire, if you're short on stuff post your name and I'll mail you some stuff. Thanks! I'm Puckles in the guild. Going through Ered Luin now. While not quite as inspired as the Shire, one thing that strikes me is the music for the zone, especially the elf half. They hit you hard with the sense that elves are leaving ME, that this is bittersweet to all of them, and the music is this mournful, sleepy dirge that matches the tone of the quests perfectly. Can't help but get the sense that the elves want to fuss endlessly about leaving everything "perfect" before they go, and as a younger, more vital race, I found myself getting impatient. Really, I need to purify some old ruins to keep rats and wolves out? Go West already! Of particular note however is the quest chain with the two elf-brothers who are split on the issue of leaving ME or not and your attempts to reconcile them, that is well written. That you end up having to go out of your way to deliver a stanza of poetry to one of the brothers is about as fitting as delivering pies as a Hobbit. And the dwarven hunter nursing the lynx back to health is the cutest thing I've run across in this playthrough too.
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Since we moved to Landroval I'm getting back into the game so much that I'm having trouble figuring out which character to play with my limited time. I just know I don't really want to max out the gear on my 100 Guardian since I'm unlikely to do serious group content. I have a Burglar and Hunter both at level 86, a Captain at 85, a RK at 52, Champ at 50, Minstrel at 44, plus a LM and Warden in the 20s. I'm kinda having a blast moving my RK through Moria at the moment, they have pretty ridiculous DPS in the red line. If any new players need a boost from some gold, I'd be happy to help out as well. My Burglar is a weaponsmith and can make a variety of stuff for level 85 and below. I haven't been able to max out weaponsmithing yet, but I'll be working on it soon.
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If anyone sees me on (I'm Edheladan) and wants to run some instances hit me up. It looks like we have enough people in the 55-65 level range that we could run some three- or six-person content. Maybe even run Vile Maw if we bring in some pubs or one/two level 100s.
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I'm pretty sure I duo cleared Vile Maw multiple times with other lvl 95 goons so 1-2 level 100s can probably take newbies through it. If you have a level 100 tank+healer combo it's definitely doable as most of my lvl 95 duo runs were my captain tanking with someone else running lm/rk/mini, or my captain healing with someone else tanking. That was also back when you could 3 man the Moria skraids though.
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So, I've started my Minstrel and I'm noticing something that may be a game-changing problem. Are my hands going to glow with swirling magic power all the time I'm in solo mode, or is there a toggle I can use to switch off the effect?
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Litany Unheard posted:If anyone sees me on (I'm Edheladan) and wants to run some instances hit me up. It looks like we have enough people in the 55-65 level range that we could run some three- or six-person content. Maybe even run Vile Maw if we bring in some pubs or one/two level 100s. I've got a guard (Bighard), a champ and a loremaster in those level ranges and I hella want to run some Moria instances. I've beaten the Watcher but not finished any other big Moria dungeon. And, poo poo, I'd do the Watcher again, too. That was rad. Should we set up informal times to group and do this? Like, Moria Mondays or something?
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Conskill posted:So, I've started my Minstrel and I'm noticing something that may be a game-changing problem.
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We've been having some more active night lately. We've had a really nice chat too tonight about the finer point of socialism. Someone complimented me and told me I looked like a comedian, something about an awesome series called The guild or something like it wasn't it ?
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bombhand posted:No toggle that I know of, but I've never gone through the options in depth. Dissonance stance = glowing hands. I got used to it but I understand that a lot of players got downright frothy about it when it was introduced. (What I couldn't get used to was the minstrel voice effects for every race but dwarf. Whenever I group with a non-dwarf minstrel, I wonder if they turn their combat sounds off to cope.) What's wrong with the minstrel's sound effects? Mid-combat with terrifying, corpse-eating orcs and your minstrel pulls out his jazz flute for some swank improv. Hell yeah.
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MartianAgitator posted:What's wrong with the minstrel's sound effects? Mid-combat with terrifying, corpse-eating orcs and your minstrel pulls out his jazz flute for some swank improv. Hell yeah. I turned down my voice levels when I started playing a Captain because as entertaining as it was to have an guy screaming like hair metal band's singer and killing enemies by doing so I really didn't need to hear the same 2-3 yells every few seconds. e: I just saw a guardian with a 2h sword that was apparently level 341/341 and all their legacies were tier 44? Is that just how the growing LIs look? Considering their entire left side accessories were gold jewelry from big battles, and their two non-set pieces of armor were jammed full of top-tier essences I'm guessing it's someone who plays considerably? I think they own my old house too.  e2: Finally logged in and crafted my 1st age weapon. Has +87 agility, +961 power and +1114 morale as its random(?) stats. Was hoping for crit/might but this is probably fine as I don't see a point in spending tons of gold making LIs for what would likely be a very small improvement that isn't guaranteed either. The three majors on it are cutting attack damage, battle shout damage, and melee skill critical damage. What're the worthwhile LIs support/damage Captains aim for before these days imbuing a weapon(battle states and defeat response)? I'll have to go through my current LIs and scrolls and see how much I'll need to work on the weapon. Then once that's all done with I'll probably make a class item to replace the lvl 95 I have now. Also with imbuing are Crystals of Remembrance basically a waste, or do their extra legacy slots carry over to an imbued LI? Apparently I have 1-2 crystals on each character, likely as part of past expansion preorders, and it'd be nice if this means I can imbue a pair of LIs and never worry about it ever again. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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MartianAgitator posted:I've got a guard (Bighard), a champ and a loremaster in those level ranges and I hella want to run some Moria instances. I've beaten the Watcher but not finished any other big Moria dungeon. And, poo poo, I'd do the Watcher again, too. That was rad. Should we set up informal times to group and do this? Like, Moria Mondays or something? That'd work. I'd like to pick two days, so that people who can't make Monday evening or whatever can hit the other night and expect at least a couple other people on. I'm on most evenings and weekends, so I'd be down for something like Saturday and one weekday. bombhand posted:No toggle that I know of, but I've never gone through the options in depth. Dissonance stance = glowing hands. I got used to it but I understand that a lot of players got downright frothy about it when it was introduced. (What I couldn't get used to was the minstrel voice effects for every race but dwarf. Whenever I group with a non-dwarf minstrel, I wonder if they turn their combat sounds off to cope.) Try playing a warden. I was playing the other day with two other wardens, and it was nonstop warden shouts the entire time. You get used to it, sort of! AskYourself posted:We've been having some more active night lately. All I know about The Guild is that it has that one lady that nerds get all weird and sweaty about. And Hobo, if you're keeping up with the thread right now, we could probably use a few more officers. Apparently we're getting people trying to join, but there aren't any officers around to bring them in. Also our kin house could use a little TLC. It's looking a bit sparse in there. 
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AskYourself posted:We've been having some more active night lately. Yeah this guy, AKA Jeff Lewis who plays Vork. He is a hardcore penny-pincher, going to extreme lengths to save money in order to live without having a real job so he can play vidya games all day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLyi8KsGbi4
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I got to level twenty on my Guardian (Drachenfutter) and have become slightly obsessed with Skirmishes and various single-duo instances. I tried doing one last night where I had to defend this big cog and the men I was with from wave after wave of baddies. The game auto-levelled me to 100 but I was still a complete wimp. I am guessing that there is no way for a level 20 to do those quests, or is it my gear? Right now I am using almost entirely Bronze made gear, working on getting my metalsmith skill up enough to make Iron armor. So is this gear a problem? Also, I spent a ton of marks on getting my Skirmish guy to be a healer and I'm now not so certain that was a good idea. At Tier 1 I didn't really need him any, but I figured if I bump it to tier 2 or 3 I might, but then I read that there really isn't any difference in the tiers for Skirmishes except mobs have more health. So is there a type of soldier that works best for solo with a Guardian? Help Goons, you're my only hope! Maybe I should go back to doing quests...
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Under no circumstance should you ever solo Big Battles when you start doing them. ALways run them with another (ranked up) player. Big Battles when you're new are awful to run solo. Even with another newbie they can be pretty rough. I'd suggest doing quests because even though you get scaled up, Big Battles will still be rough at lower levels and especially when you are just starting them. e: Are there any current guides for the LI imbue system? I can't find anything useful for figuring out which legacies I'd want to have on my weapon when I take it to 70, upgrade the legacies, and imbue. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:e: Are there any current guides for the LI imbue system? I can't find anything useful for figuring out which legacies I'd want to have on my weapon when I take it to 70, upgrade the legacies, and imbue. Not necessarily a guide, but this site lists all the legacies on both normal and imbued legendary items so you can plan out which ones you want to aim for. https://lotrotools.pw/legacies.php To answer some questions in your previous post, as a captain I'd go for legacies such as AOE healing, melee crit magnitude, battle-hardened outgoing healing, muster courage fear resist, bleed damage, and battle readied damage. Crystals of remembrance will still add another legacy slot to your legendary pre or post imbue so they are still useful.
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It's only the first one that's garbage solo and impossible to do anything worthwhile without having some skill points. And the caves. The others are fine solo. You can get golds & plats in many objectives without much fuss.
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A level 20, even upped to 100, will not be able to drop mobs fast enough to get gold or platinum. The difference between an upleveled character and an actual 100 is a mile wide. Not to mention the complete lack of promotion points when you first run the battles. If you're low level and want to run through epic/big battles then ask around for a level 100 who will run it with you.
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I didn't play the pelargir ones but gold & plat on half of the helm's deep quests don't need anything resembling combat ability to achieve. The biggest obstacle to a new player is helm's dike which can fail completely if the wrong sidequest comes up and you have no points to manage it. Beat that and the next two are easy to rack up promotion points on. For example, the shaman one on the wall only needs your character to have access to a taunt. Easy plat.
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Markkei posted:Not necessarily a guide, but this site lists all the legacies on both normal and imbued legendary items so you can plan out which ones you want to aim for. Am II reading this site right that Captains just have a flat 15s defeat state duration instead of 10 seconds, hence the lower desire for the defeat state legacy? The weapon came with the crit damage legacy on it already so that's one down at least. Also that pressing attack max targets turns in to the battle-hardened outgoing heal legacy when you imbue the LI?
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Evil Fluffy posted:Am II reading this site right that Captains just have a flat 15s defeat state duration instead of 10 seconds, hence the lower desire for the defeat state legacy? The weapon came with the crit damage legacy on it already so that's one down at least. Yeah, they've updated a number of skills and traits to include the old +duration legacies. Losing pressing attack max targets was a concern for some but even that skill they changed so that the base skill hits 5 targets as opposed to 2. I can't really think of any situation where it's really really important to be able to hit 11 targets with pressing attack, so I don't regret losing the legacy.
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flowinprose posted:Yeah this guy, AKA Jeff Lewis who plays Vork. He is a hardcore penny-pincher, going to extreme lengths to save money in order to live without having a real job so he can play vidya games all day. Godamnit that's not a compliment then. I know I shouldn't have trusted you.
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Is it still fun to simply work on your cooking skill, smoke pipe weed, and bash monsters from time to time? I played a Lore-Master from launch up to the Moria expansion, got suckered into end-game raiding again, and burned out within 3 months. I should have known better. Seeing that this MMO has a Mac client, and I lost my account informations from 2008: is casual leveling reasonably fast? It's funny, I played EQ for much longer, and later WoW, but I have so many fond memories of LOTRO because of all the neat little details, and the killer atmosphere.
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Yes to all your questions! This is game is super casual and it's easy on the worst of days to move through the content. Also there's no rush to quest and you can take it as you like. Heck you can just as easily get to level 30 by just farming and cooking if you prefer. The atmosphere has never really been a let down. I'm not the biggest fan of Rohan, the Rohirrim are kinda dumb as all heck, but the land itself is very pretty. Gondor is pretty amazing through and through.
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Thanks! Another question: at what point do you have to buy expansions? Just saw the different packs you can buy. Or do people simply roll with the free content and ignore the stuff you have to purchase?
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I bought all the expansions but also I'm a filthy lifer. You can wait until you hit the appropriate level for each, though. (Alternately, wait for sales.)
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Jack's Flow posted:Thanks! You will eventually effectively have to buy content. I say effectively because you could technically grind deeds and make new alts and keep grinding deeds and never actually pay for anything, but you'd hate yourself. Or you level up through Epic Battles, and also hate yourself. I think you start running into needing new content around level 30. Chairchucker posted:I bought all the expansions but also I'm a filthy lifer. You can wait until you hit the appropriate level for each, though. (Alternately, wait for sales.) This is the correct answer! Pick it up as you go, and feel free to take advantage of sales if you're getting near needing stuff or just really enjoying yourself so much that you know you won't be burned out by the time you make it to it. Some people get pissed at LOTRO's revenue model because they look at it with their level 7 character and say "I did the math and to buy all the quest packs and expansions its like $150!!!" or something silly. You do not in any reality need anywhere near every expansion or quest pack to make it to max level. There's enough content in the game to probably go through it with about 3 characters (maybe more) and repeat very very little. If you're penny pinching, remember to also use XP boosting things you may have.
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