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open24hours posted:I'm not writing off anyone's grief. If someone I cared about was shot by an Islamic terrorist I'm sure I'd be very upset too. This dialogue that you are proposing already exists and has existed for as long as Islam has been in existence. hooman was definitely writing off people's grief.
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open24hours posted:I'm not Hooman? Man why do I need to spell things out to you. You've been defending their side of this discourse. That's why we've been going back and forth ffs.
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Dec 15, 2015 03:47
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lol myefo "let's improve integrity measures," cuts back enforcement spending down lieberal scum
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open24hours, don't take this wrong I think you're reasonable and everything, but bloody hell you are tiresome. You demand a level of tedious verbosity which would become unnecessary if you thought about my posts for longer than a second.
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If you asked people to spell things out instead of assuming you understand what they are trying to say a lot of back and forth could be saved. Look at what people actually say instead of what you want them to say.
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Dec 15, 2015 03:49
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open24hours posted:If you asked people to spell things out instead of assuming you understand what they are trying to say a lot of back and forth could be saved. Look at what people actually say instead of what you want them to say. There is a difference between misreading and actual, you know, non-superficial reading.
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Birdstrike posted:lol myefo "let's improve integrity measures," cuts back enforcement spending It really feels like they are just hoping the economic situation improves rather than actually doing anything about it. Again.
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Amethyst posted:hooman was definitely writing off people's grief. Exactly whose grief was I writing off? The massive outpouring of emotion from people who were not involved nor related to those who were involved? Also this is your prime issue, reading the entire thread as a hivemind of agreement rather than a series of individuals making differing arguments.
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hooman posted:Exactly whose grief was I writing off? The massive outpouring of emotion from people who were not involved nor related to those who were involved? I never said anything about a hivemind. I've been specifically addressing you, birb katter, and cleretic. And yeah, you and Birb talking about crocodile tears and eqiviocating a terrorist attack with a car accident definitely counts as writing people's feelings off.
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Dec 15, 2015 03:57
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They're cracking down on Medicare authority scripts as well: GPs who fudge authority scripts are going to end up struck off or some poo poo. Source: my GP when he found out my old GP was fudging my SNRI script to get an off-label authority.
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Amethyst posted:I never said anything about a hivemind. I've been specifically addressing you, birb katter, and cleretic. I specifically drew comparisons to domestic violence because if we treated that more seriously it is very likely that Monis wouldn't have been in the position he was to be able to do this. You know, maybe that was missed in the heat of the moment or something.
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ScreamingLlama posted:They're cracking down on Medicare authority scripts as well: GPs who fudge authority scripts are going to end up struck off or some poo poo. Source: my GP when he found out my old GP was fudging my SNRI script to get an off-label authority. 
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Dec 15, 2015 04:00
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Just lol if you care at all about the Lindt Cafe Siege. It's no more or less important than all the other police standoffs which happen at least once a week in Australia, the only difference is this time a brown person who declared allegiance to ISIS halfway through it did it instead of some methed up junkie.
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thatfatkid posted:Just lol if you care at all about the Lindt Cafe Siege. It's no more or less important than all the other police standoffs which happen at least once a week in Australia, the only difference is this time a brown person who declared allegiance to ISIS halfway through it did it instead of some methed up junkie. You mean that those two hostages who were shot by police this morning in Melbourne were not shot down by an Islamic State?
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Speaking of crocodile tears, is it OK to be cynical about the government's attempts to address domestic violence without reforming the welfare system?
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Birb Katter posted:I specifically drew comparisons to domestic violence because if we treated that more seriously it is very likely that Monis wouldn't have been in the position he was to be able to do this. You know, maybe that was missed in the heat of the moment or something.
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Amethyst posted:I never said anything about a hivemind. I've been specifically addressing you, birb katter, and cleretic. I'm sorry, how much of these feelings deserve to be respected? How much grief do you personally feel about Sydney? How much about Paris? How much about Ankara? Personally I feel none. It all sucked, it's bad that people died. But if you didn't know the people who died, or people who were there then why are you feeling grief? Why do people in Australia feel it for some but not others. The whole thing feels gross and voyeristic to me, intruding the emotions the media told you to feel onto the actual pain of people who suffered. So yeah, I will write off people's feelings some times. Because sometimes people's feelings aren't valid.
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hooman posted:I'm sorry, how much of these feelings deserve to be respected? Cool man. You're badass.
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Amethyst posted:Cool man. You're badass. Stop writing off my feelings you monster.
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hooman posted:Stop writing off my feelings you monster. Oh drat! You really have me in a logical trap! Perhaps it is I, the one who thinks Monis is bad, who is the cold one.
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Dec 15, 2015 04:11
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Amethyst posted:Oh drat! You really have me in a logical trap! Perhaps it is I, the one who thinks Monis is bad, who is the cold one. No I was just non responding to your non response. Also please point out where I have said that Monis was anything but bad. EDIT: Oops you got caught putting words in my mouth again. hooman fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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Dec 15, 2015 04:15
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Oh hey cool 4 pages of people getting angry about semantics and telling each other to kill each other, thanks guys it was cool hanging out here for like a week, I think I learned something?!? (From Orkin obviously)
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Although Monis was influenced by extreme Islam, I wouldn't call him a terrorist or anything like that.
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The China FTA is costing us 4.2B in lost tariffs, but this will be offset by the ??? in additional revenue.
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Recoome posted:Although Monis was influenced by extreme Islam, I wouldn't call him a terrorist or anything like that. Why not? He commited an act of terrorism.
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Dec 15, 2015 04:35
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The China FTA is costing us 4.2B in lost tariffs, but this will be offset by the ??? in additional revenue. ??? = Tins of contaminated fruit being really cheap
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MC Eating Disorder posted:Oh hey cool 4 pages of people getting angry about semantics and telling each other to kill each other, thanks guys it was cool hanging out here for like a week, I think I learned something?!? (From Orkin obviously) I don't think anyone told anyone to kill themselves? This was actually pretty civil and capped off with an excellent post by Lid.
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quote:It was buried on page 13, towards the bottom right-hand corner of the newspaper. 
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The China FTA is costing us 4.2B in lost tariffs, but this will be offset by the ??? in additional revenue. 4.2tonnes of poor people grinded into a fine powder which is snorted by the elite to get high and write coalition policy at 3am.
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To understand how the government sees free trade agreements, there's a decent paper that was prepared for RIRDC called "‘Free' trade agreements: Making them better". This is the opening paragraph  I like to think they just stop reading after the first sentence.
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Recoome posted:Although Monis was influenced by extreme Islam, I wouldn't call him a terrorist or anything like that. Why not? Wasn't he trying to make a political or religious statement?
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open24hours posted:Speaking of crocodile tears, is it OK to be cynical about the government's attempts to address domestic violence without reforming the welfare system? Absolutely. A lot of domestic violence involves financial abuse. The welfare system doesn't allow for financial independence, so it's really easy to get into a situation where you literally can't afford to leave (let alone the threat of retribution once you do).
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hooman posted:This was actually pretty civil and capped off with an excellent post by Lid. That's because you and Lid argue in good faith.
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Amethyst posted:Every loving rear end in a top hat who feels the impulse to post something like this needs to drink some draino. We're here to be outraged, and have political opinions. gently caress off. Amethyst posted:I agree, gently caress your life, jump off a cliff imo I think drinking drano and walking off a cliff were " kill you are selves " types not "self harm like a boss" so yeah someone did ask others to die. If Monis was terrorism then why isn't every hostage taker a terrorist? Do you get your evil Inc badge when you self identify with them or is it when enough people feel like you should be a member? Funny that down under the darker your skin the more people think you are a member. E: for phone posting auto correct error Tasmantor fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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Tasmantor posted:I think driving drano and walking off a cliff were " kill you are selves " types not "self harm like a boss" so yeah someone did ask others to die. Most hostage takers are terrorists unless they're trying to rob a bank or whatever.
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Amethyst posted:Most hostage takers are terrorists unless they're trying to rob a bank or whatever. If you think terrorism has to have a political element to it, no.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:If you think terrorism has to have a political element to it, no. Uh that's what I was saying. Duh.
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