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JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

Moola posted:

*searches kilt*

"sorry sir I can't let you on the plane with that loaded weapon" :smug:

"I'll just have to help you safely discharge it first"

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Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

The Supreme Court posted:

I got through a border with hefty security in record time when a guard found out I was Scottish: he said "Sean Connery land?" then joked around and waved me out of the queue and past the security. It was brilliant! On the other hand, my non-Scottish friends had to wait a bloody long time in that queue and had their bags meticulously searched before walking through the same doors.

:scotland:
I have seen this work for a few Scottish coworkers in all sorts of scenarios. It's bullshit.


Leperflesh posted:

People from Austin really should get a pass, though.
Don't you mean Californians? :v:

TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine
It's just a box with a spring in it, you guys.

ro5s
Dec 27, 2012

A happy little mouse!

Moola posted:

*searches kilt*

"sorry sir I can't let you on the plane with that loaded weapon" :smug:

They're blanks :ssh:

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Leperflesh posted:

People from Austin really should get a pass, though.

:siren: DO NOT KEEP GW WEIRD :siren:

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


I used to live in Texas when my dad was stationed there and it's v embarrassing, yeah. The stereotypes are true.

krushgroove
Oct 23, 2007

Disapproving look

Chill la Chill posted:

I used to live in Texas when my dad was stationed there and it's v embarrassing, yeah. The stereotypes are true.

I lived in Southern California for 7 years after Texas, and then the UK for 12 years now, and having just visited San Antonio for a week, my first visit in probably 4 or 5 years, OMG the stereotypes are all there and will never ever go away.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
Maybe you scrubs should live somewhere that isn't a bunch of stereotypes. Excuse me, I gotta go buy craft brews for a locally sourced organic brewery *sips Starbucks, turns up Soundgarden and drives away in my Tesla* :smug:

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



El Estrago Bonito posted:

Also not to continue the derail but the person who said you're screwed if you land in specific states is wrong. If your guns are unloaded and in a locked case you are legally protected if you enter a state with different firearms provisions as long as you are just passing through. It's called the Firearm Owners Protection Act and if you own and fire guns you should really know everything in it, and if you are anti-gun you should doubly know whats in it since it's the single most important piece of gun legislation ever. Basically if you want to know why gun law in the US is extremely hosed (because it really really is) and you're from a nation with more reasonable firearms legislation you should at least glance at the wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

New York and New Jersey have decided FOPA applies to cars and trucks, not planes and trains. There are about 50 people who have gotten arrested for thinking like you do.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


I'm very basic and I love fall (grew up in Germany) and #PSLs and cute basic white girls in Han Solo costumes. :ohdear:

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Whats a PSL?

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Pumpkin spice latte they are delicious. My friend works at Starbucks so he gets me fat for the Xmas advent season.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Chill la Chill posted:

Pumpkin spice latte they are delicious. My friend works at Starbucks so he gets me fat for the Xmas advent season.

Friend, those things are gross, a white chocolate mocha is far far better and iirc less calories. Even the gingerbread one is better and that is a very situational drink even still.

I used to frequent a bar that served this stuff and drinking gallons of that has put me off the PS train.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

Drone posted:

:siren: DON'T BRING GW ONTO PLANES :siren:
You must have missed the part where I was describing that actually happening. I used to bring minis and paints and stuff with me on travel because boredom. Some time in the early 2000's, I had a TSA guy make me check my carry-on (no one in their right mind entrusts their jewel-like objects to filthy baggage handlers) because he felt the sword on a pewter Space Marine constituted some kind of imminent threat to air-traffic safety. I probably should have screamed "Allah hu akbar!!!!" and stabbed him in the eye with it. Or maybe "For the Emperor!!!!" would have been more thematically appropriate.

I get the impression that some of you ferriners don't believe/understand the absurd level of reactionary and irrational paranoia that 9/11 fostered in this country. Ugh, I don't even want to think what it would be like to try to fly with a decent array of paints now that liquids needs to be bagged separately, can't be more than 3 oz, can't have more than N of them, etc.

But hey, at least this way I have an excuse for fielding an entirely bare-plastic-gray army.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Ilor posted:

I get the impression that some of you ferriners don't believe/understand the absurd level of reactionary and irrational paranoia that 9/11 fostered in this country.
I mean we've all seen Donald Trump in his ridiculous shade of jokaero orange but I don't think most people realize interacting with the TSA is basically like that all the time and has been for years. Most of the time you don't see it. Then, abruptly, you do - I once got accosted for carrying a bag of salt.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Chill la Chill posted:

Pumpkin spice latte they are delicious. My friend works at Starbucks so he gets me fat for the Xmas advent season.

I had one of those a few days ago, real good

also the egg nog ones too

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

Spiderdrake posted:

I mean we've all seen Donald Trump in his ridiculous shade of jokaero orange but I don't think most people realize interacting with the TSA is basically like that all the time and has been for years. Most of the time you don't see it. Then, abruptly, you do - I once got accosted for carrying a bag of salt.
That is because only terrorists and godless communists carry salt in anything but a shaker. :ssh:

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



bongwizzard posted:

Friend, those things are gross, a white chocolate mocha is far far better and iirc less calories. Even the gingerbread one is better and that is a very situational drink even still.

I used to frequent a bar that served this stuff and drinking gallons of that has put me off the PS train.

:siren:DON'T GIVE GW COFFEE:siren:

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Moola posted:

I had one of those a few days ago, real good

also the egg nog ones too

I often have eggnog dribbling down my chin after an eggnog sesh and it gives me the warm fuzzy feelings. :3:


bongwizzard posted:

Friend, those things are gross, a white chocolate mocha is far far better and iirc less calories. Even the gingerbread one is better and that is a very situational drink even still.

I used to frequent a bar that served this stuff and drinking gallons of that has put me off the PS train.
It's ok, friend. some of us enjoy the basic necessities of life.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
Milk punch is superior to eggnog. My family's recipe is more or less just half and half and bourbon and some spices. :shepface:

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



And then you realize bourbon is superior to watered down bourbon

and then you're an alcoholic

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Spiderdrake posted:

And then you realize bourbon is superior to watered down bourbon

and then you're an alcoholic

:laffo: Like I don't drink bourbon straight.

lovestick
Feb 11, 2006

~30303030303~


Ilor posted:

You must have missed the part where I was describing that actually happening. I used to bring minis and paints and stuff with me on travel because boredom. Some time in the early 2000's, I had a TSA guy make me check my carry-on (no one in their right mind entrusts their jewel-like objects to filthy baggage handlers) because he felt the sword on a pewter Space Marine constituted some kind of imminent threat to air-traffic safety. I probably should have screamed "Allah hu akbar!!!!" and stabbed him in the eye with it. Or maybe "For the Emperor!!!!" would have been more thematically appropriate.

I get the impression that some of you ferriners don't believe/understand the absurd level of reactionary and irrational paranoia that 9/11 fostered in this country. Ugh, I don't even want to think what it would be like to try to fly with a decent array of paints now that liquids needs to be bagged separately, can't be more than 3 oz, can't have more than N of them, etc.

But hey, at least this way I have an excuse for fielding an entirely bare-plastic-gray army.


I had a set of jewelers files in my luggage and TSA had to have a conference as to if the 3" barette file was a deadly weapon. Ugh.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Safety Factor posted:

Milk punch is superior to eggnog. My family's recipe is more or less just half and half and bourbon and some spices. :shepface:

I tried a goon's recipe for Coquito a few years ago and I've made it for Christmas ever since. Goes down so good I never make enough.

e: though it seems to get stronger every year I make it :shrug:

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Reminder that despite the fact the TSA are such belligerent shits, when they were put to the test in an experiment they let 95% of contraband through without stopping it lol

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Hello again thread. A new year is almost upon us and I was wondering if we are still taking predictions for the fall of GW.

Also bring back boom boom boom

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I was on the TSA's "give this guy extra screening every time" list for a while. No idea why, but every time I had to do the standard poo poo, then they'd make me do it again off to the side.

Sir Teabag
Oct 26, 2007
Did you play Eldar? That's probably why.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Sir Teabag posted:

Did you play Eldar? That's probably why.

Only dark eldar gets shoved into players' rectums, actually. But, I'll defer to Moola.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

It's funny watching Rick steadily give fewer and fewer fucks about poo poo-talking GW. After he left, you could barely even get him to mention the company, then he was being very carefully neutral in any GW talk. Now he's gone full bittervet. There's an Ex-GW staff group on Facebook and it's all peanut-gallery and (stdh.txt) horror stories all the time. From time to time, someone who is still a fanboy joins and makes a 'hey guys, I used to work at <almost always a US store>, loving AoS, what are you guys into?' and then gets dogpiled by the bitterest of bitter vets.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Well even six months ago he had a few sparingly nice things to say about AoS. Now that he has a game directly competing for the market share he gets the added benefit of page views and getting his message out to disgruntled 40k players. All for the low cost of finally speaking his mind.

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

Helen Highwater posted:

There's an Ex-GW staff group on Facebook and it's all peanut-gallery and (stdh.txt) horror stories all the time.

Please please leak us a few of the best. Anything juicy and untraceable, or that the authors would happily allow into the public domain for us to snigger over?

I'd like to hear someone like Andy Chambers or Rick Priestly comment on Specialist Games, myself. It was rumoured even at the time to be a boondoggle for vets to be quietly buried in if they were too high-profile to fire. Was it just a happy niche for pensioned-off vets who offended senior management? What happened internally when it went down?

Alas for the dramamongery, I've met AC at conventions when he was out promoting Dropfleet, and he is too much of a gentleman to spill the beans. I still hold out hope for some nicely catty tell-all memoirs.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


He invited me and friend to have breakfast with him over ten years ago at a California con. Very nice guy from the hour or so he spent with us.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Id rather hear stdh.txt and peanut gallery myself, actually. Good stories are good stories, even if they're fake.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Helen Highwater posted:

It's funny watching Rick steadily give fewer and fewer fucks about poo poo-talking GW. After he left, you could barely even get him to mention the company, then he was being very carefully neutral in any GW talk. Now he's gone full bittervet. There's an Ex-GW staff group on Facebook and it's all peanut-gallery and (stdh.txt) horror stories all the time. From time to time, someone who is still a fanboy joins and makes a 'hey guys, I used to work at <almost always a US store>, loving AoS, what are you guys into?' and then gets dogpiled by the bitterest of bitter vets.

Any chance you could share that group?

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer
I'm not going to post stuff from the Ex GW group, it's a private and closed group for a reason. The demographics of the group reflect the company, so there are a lot of ex-retail and a fairly small number of ex-studio. Alessio posts there but mostly to promote his new games rather anything else, a few sculptors and artists and a bunch of former managers hang around and share stories from the pre-Lenton days from time to time. GW back in the day was a weird place, people would migrate through the company almost continuously. Some people had three or four different job titles and areas of responsibility in as many months so anyone who was around for a while probably had direct experience of pretty much the whole company.

Specialist games wasn't really much of anything while I was there. Jervis had it as his personal fiefdom as he wasn't really getting involved in main releases at the time - he'd be part of the brainstorming and prototyping stages with Rick and AndyC but, by the time game dev started work on it, he'd step out. I think SG was mostly just him, one or two minions who collated stuff for him from the various LRB groups and that was about it. New stuff for Specialist Games came from the main game dev department - I remember doing some new Necromunda and BFG stuff with Gav and Andy after those games had gone to SG.

GW was pretty experimental in those days, they tried a lot of different things to see what worked. There was a Game dev apprenticeship program of sorts just before I joined, Ian Pickstock and Gave were the last alumni of that. The idea was that they ran the Citadel Journal (the old A4 version, not the later A5 one) and created experimental rules, cheap-rear end hobby stuff and so on in a sandpit that no-one really cared about too much and where it wasn't possible to break things. Then they'd graduate to full game development and get to work on official product. They had almost no supervision and were pretty much left to get on with things. Occasionally someone would look at what they were doing and recoil in horror but, for the most part they were just left to their own devices. It was possible to fail there, the pair before Ian and Gav hosed up by showing people how to make cardboard versions of tanks that GW was selling as plastic kits. No-one spotted that until the Journal was out and then the guys were both fired. Ian and Gav did fine at it but it was decided that there should be more supervision and that could only really happen inside the main game dev department, so I came along and was reporting directly to Andy with Gav as my supervisor. Alessio and Tuomas came along after me and had the same start.

Andy is very unlikely to be bitter in public about GW these days. He's back writing BL novels for them and I doubt he's interested in killing that particular golden goose just for the sake of some internet pointscoring exercise. It's possible that GW will piss him off again but he's a pretty calm guy who's unlikely to burn bridges.

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

Helen Highwater posted:

I'm not going to post stuff from the Ex GW group

quote:

the pair before Ian and Gav hosed up by showing people how to make cardboard versions of tanks that GW was selling as plastic kits. No-one spotted that until the Journal was out and then the guys were both fired

I think you just did, Jesus Christ. This is when GW were including cardboard vehicles and terrain in their starter boxes, too. That was grounds to fire two junior staff members because oh noez, it might imperil plastic vehicle revenues?

I've always had a soft spot for AndyC even if he did write Battlefleet Gothic and spawn a million internet idiots who swarmed space gaming message forums with bullshit about 30km-long cruisers. I was glad to see him get a job at Blizzard and I noticed the level design of Starcraft 2 was a lot better when he was on their design team! He is a charming old rogue in person, and I look forward to Dropfleet immensely.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



When were cardboard tank instructions in CJ?

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
The 2nd edition starter had a cardboard stand in for an Ork dreadnought because the current model was metal and it was too much to include in a starter. It's a bit different.

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Roller Coast Guard
Aug 27, 2006

With this magnificent aircraft,
and my magnificent facial hair,
the British Empire will never fall!


moths posted:

When were cardboard tank instructions in CJ?

I'm pretty sure I have this CJ issue somewhere.

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