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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

StrangersInTheNight posted:

Yeah, the truth is he probably would've gotten away with it for a lot longer without doing that, but media coverage made him a target for subsequent scrutiny, as well as nuked any political goodwill he may have had among the rich and powerful. Because, even IF rich people happened to agree with him, they also understand the important social nature of 'guilt by association', and don't appreciate suddenly being lumped in with pharma douche just because they knew/worked with/socialized with him. So anyone he shook hands with is going to distance themselves, and any power he was gaining is just gone because no one wants to be seen as the person who helps this rear end in a top hat.

Even Donald Trump called him out, and Trump is basically the dictionary definition of "evil corporate executive". Dude's an 80s cartoon villain and still thinks Shkreli is too slimy for him.

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wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

AgentF
May 11, 2009

chitoryu12 posted:

Even Donald Trump called him out, and Trump is basically the dictionary definition of "evil corporate executive". Dude's an 80s cartoon villain and still thinks Shkreli is too slimy for him.

Trump would do the exact same thing in his situation, and is just pragmatically thinking about his reputation.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

I did that once with a table saw but instead of spearing a person (this is like safety #1 with a sander or saw, WTF) it shot a spear of wood across the room that buried itself two feet into our wall sheetrock.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

From the bitcoin thread:

mrmcd posted:

Hilarious little tidbit in a NYT article about the Shkreli debacle:

Finally, he and Mr. Greebel inappropriately routed money from Retrophin “in an effort to satisfy Shkreli’s personal and unrelated professional debts and obligations,” the indictment said. Mr. Greebel was the lead outside counsel to Retrophin from 2012 to 2014, when he was a partner at Katten Muchin Rosenman. His name appears on many of the Retrophin filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Mr. Shkreli has said in earlier interviews that the Retrophin allegations were false and merely a way for the company to avoid paying him severance.

Mr. Greebel joined Kaye Scholer this summer from Katten Muchin Rosenman.

In recent years, Mr. Greebel had built expertise working with Bitcoin, the digital currency. He is listed on filings with the S.E.C. as one of the outside lawyers working on the Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust, the publicly traded Bitcoin investment vehicle that Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss have talked about starting.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/business/shkreli-fraud-charges.html

Ponzi scheme douchbag's crooked lawyer also involved in bitcoin schemes. :allears:

I knew it. As soon as I heard "massive financial fraud" combined with "massive fuckups" combined with "complete rear end in a top hat", I just KNEW bitcoins were going to factor into it one way or another.

Sir Joseph Banksy
May 9, 2009

boing...boing...boing...boing...

Favourite ever. Absolute pro-click

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

From the Anti-Food Porn thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89cMeaiJlPc

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

the fart question
Mar 21, 2007

College Slice

i enjoyed that a lot for many reasons

ArcMage
Sep 14, 2007

What is this thread?

Ramrod XTreme

jrgnsn_tjf posted:

Favourite ever. Absolute pro-click

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81ptFSA4mk

belt
May 12, 2001

by Nyc_Tattoo

"I'm going to live until I'm 105!"

Hahahaha, I love this guy.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

So I found a video that compiled the 20 oldest YouTube videos still on the site, and found that even these first nascent steps into becoming the world's second largest search engine included schadenfreud clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uImk2RgCq_U

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

chitoryu12 posted:

You can screw over the rich, too. The problem is that you need your own battalion of lawyers, friends, and greased palms in politics and courts to make sure that you can actually play ball. Shkreli seems to think that the only thing that rich people have that makes them so powerful is money (as opposed to connections) and therefore having money gives him power.

In reality, he got juuuuuust enough power to give him the strength to piss off people bigger than him.

He really could have gotten away with it if he hadn't gone in front of cameras and made himself a target. If he had remained as faceless as possible instead of literally going on Twitter and fighting with YouTube personalities...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6Ct8kG0iU

...he could have fostered some connections and formed a shield around his purely evil plans, but he immediately marked himself as a skunk that no one is going to publicly touch. Now he's a circus sacrifice for at least the next few weeks, and depending on how much they can prove about his money schemes is going to get sent to one of those resort prisons from Wolf of Wall Street for like 12 weeks or so.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

mind the walrus posted:

He really could have gotten away with it if he hadn't gone in front of cameras and made himself a target. If he had remained as faceless as possible instead of literally going on Twitter and fighting with YouTube personalities...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6Ct8kG0iU

...he could have fostered some connections and formed a shield around his purely evil plans, but he immediately marked himself as a skunk that no one is going to publicly touch. Now he's a circus sacrifice for at least the next few weeks, and depending on how much they can prove about his money schemes is going to get sent to one of those resort prisons from Wolf of Wall Street for like 12 weeks or so.

Nah, the whole "resort prison" thing is purely reserved for people that nobody wants to punish. Those are the guys I mentioned who actually have power to go with their money, like friendly fellow millionaires, politicians, and judges. Shkreli got rich quick without any of the connections needed to build it up, and in fact has a lot of powerful people who personally have a bone to pick with him. If he goes behind bars over this, it won't be comfortable.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I'll believe it when I see it, but hey stranger things have happened.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



From the information released this guy was doomed right from the start; his crimes are a pattern that's often seen among idiots with no ethics. He's more high profile than sleazy exec who embezzled money #64815, but there was no way that this wasn't going to crash down on him. It's not a matter of connections or stepping on the wrong toes or anything like that; it's that he's a thief with no ethics and no brains who thought he could keep running ahead the money. The fact that he's been a big mouthed rear end in a top hat just means that we get to really enjoy this one.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Pharma bro already posted $5M bail and is out.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The whole Shkreli mainly goes to show that the whole idea of a bail system is hosed up. Someone gets to hang around at home instead of in jail just because theyre rich? like, how openly unfair to the poor can you guys make your "justice" system really after youve added that? It is loving ridiculous.


The right-wing spanish president getting punched in the face yesterday.

synthetik
Feb 28, 2007

I forgive you, Will. Will you forgive me?
http://jalopnik.com/lazy-idiots-at-lube-shop-cut-hole-in-audi-s4s-aero-pan-1748394648

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

ekuNNN posted:

The whole Shkreli mainly goes to show that the whole idea of a bail system is hosed up. Someone gets to hang around at home instead of in jail just because theyre rich? like, how openly unfair to the poor can you guys make your "justice" system really after youve added that? It is loving ridiculous.
The idea of bail is that it should be set at an amount that the person in jail would be able to pay but unwilling to leave behind, as a means of ensuring that they show up for trial. In principle, a reasonable amount for this should be possible whether you're poor or rich (though if you're truly without any tangible assets, it does kind of break down). Quiet collusion with the bail bond industry tends to result in unreasonable bail amounts being set for poorer people, though.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Like so much else, it's a perfectly fine idea on paper. You're innocent until proven guilty, so we don't want to throw you in jail, but if you are guilty, you could take the opportunity to skip town, so we'll take a sizeable deposit as discouragement. Above posters have already detailed why it doesn't work in execution.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

AlphaKretin posted:

Like so much else, it's a perfectly fine idea on paper. You're innocent until proven guilty, so we don't want to throw you in jail, but if you are guilty, you could take the opportunity to skip town, so we'll take a sizeable deposit as discouragement. Above posters have already detailed why it doesn't work in execution.
There are definite flaws with the execution, but eliminating bail entirely would be even worse, if we're concerned about the poor.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
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https://vine.co/v/imEKmnUahI0

Clochette
Aug 12, 2013

I'll be happy when my classmate fails.

Last Friday was the date of my computer science course's final exam. Since it can be completed online, there was no class, and most students did it at home or in the library. On Saturday, I got a call from the guy who sits next to me in class. Let's call him Goofer. Goofer was in a panic because he forgot about the final exam (which is worth 30% of our grade). Fortunately, the professor is allowing him to take the exam over tomorrow. But that's not why I hope he fails.

Goofer went on to mention that he'd never finished the two programming assignments, which were due in early October and November respectively. They each consisted of four different problems to be solved by writing a Java program.

(For comp sci nerds: the problems were pretty simple, since this is a first-year class. Calculating the amount of paint needed for a certain sized room, or printing the first n powers of 2, stuff like that.)

My school uses Canvas, and apparently the professor hadn't set a limit on the latest that the assignments could be submitted (whether the professor would even grade them at all is another story). A normal person might thank the gods above for this leniency, repent for their laziness, and work their hardest on completing the homework before the last day of the semester. But not Goofer! Instead, Goofer asked me if I would send him my raw code for both assignments, and he could "change a few things" to make it look like his own original work. He also asked if the "compiled code would be included." If you're even vaguely familiar with coding, you'll know from that statement that Goofer isn't.

Even if Goofer had offered me some sort of incentive to risk failing the class and possibly even getting kicked out of school for aiding in plagiarism, it was obvious that he wouldn't be able to convincingly pass my code off as his own. I lied and told him I didn't have my work anymore. Today at noon, Goofer called me again. Apparently he only just realized that there's a project due midnight on Friday, despite the fact that it was announced a month ago! Of course, Goofer was absent on the day we discussed it in class.

(For comp sci nerds: the problems on the final project include a program that counts the occurences of the largest in a series of numbers, and a program that uses the Luhn algorith to validate credit cards.)

I made it clear that he had very little time left to complete the project, and that he would fail if he submitted it even a minute late. Goofer remarked that someoneone could simply send him their finished work, like that's no big deal. Goofer revealed that he hadn't made any progress on the homework, and that the only reason he'd passed the midterm was because he had done it in the library with two other students who actually studied and gave him the answers for everything.

When I didn't selflessly offer to give him my code, Goofer said, "Well, I'll just read the assigned chapters and figure out how to do it." I'm genuinely curious about how he plans to accomplish learning an entire course and completing the final project in 36 hours.

The sad thing is, if Goofer had even attempted to do the homework, he would have been better equipped to tackle the final project. Even better, he would have realized that his programming skills are too minimal to properly code the problems in the project, and he could have used that insight to get extra help from the professor or tutors.

Goofer is so hosed. I'm just enjoying the schadenfreude.

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:

jesus christ it's been like a year and a half since i've done any programming and i could do all that stuff you listed in about 20 minutes, how bad was this guy

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ha ha that goofer, he really cracks me up

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

This is one of the reasons I find court-side seating to be the dumbest loving thing.

Clochette
Aug 12, 2013

President Ark posted:

jesus christ it's been like a year and a half since i've done any programming and i could do all that stuff you listed in about 20 minutes, how bad was this guy

I have no idea what his problem is. He's an IT major and computer science classes that involve coding are required for his degree. When I asked him if he'd even tried doing the homework, his answers were pretty vague, but it seems like he never made a serious attempt. I doubt he's even cracked open the book.

The course consisted of a 75-minute lecture once a week and there were no in-class assignments or anything. Basically you had to self-teach by doing the problems in the book if you didn't come in already knowing the basics. I can see how that could gently caress up a lot of people who are used to the way high school is structured, but Goofer didn't even loving try.

Clochette
Aug 12, 2013

Incidentally, Goofer started touching my feet one day in class after I came in wearing flip-flops and suggested that I put them on his lap so he could massage them before admitting to a foot fetish. This was in the middle of class, the professor just didn't see because we were in the back. He's just terrible all around.

whalestory
Feb 9, 2004

hey ya'll!

Pillbug

I'm glad you could be gallant in this situation

HairyManling
Jul 20, 2011

No flipping.
Fun Shoe
Schadenfruede Thread: Goofer didn't even loving try

Edit:

Clochette posted:

Incidentally, Goofer started touching my feet one day in class after I came in wearing flip-flops and suggested that I put them on his lap so he could massage them before admitting to a foot fetish. This was in the middle of class, the professor just didn't see because we were in the back. He's just terrible all around.
What the gently caress? In the span of about five minutes Goofer went from being a dumbass, lazy college student to a weird creep. Why would you give this person your phone number?!

Clochette
Aug 12, 2013

HairyManling posted:

Schadenfruede Thread: Goofer didn't even loving try

Edit:

What the gently caress? In the span of about five minutes Goofer went from being a dumbass, lazy college student to a weird creep. Why would you give this person your phone number?!

We did this thing the first day in class where you shared contact details with a few other students so you could let them know what they missed in class if they asked. It was kind of pointless since all the assignments were accessible online, but whatever. It doesn't bother me much since Goofer only texts/calls me when he fucks up, and I made it pretty obvious that I'm not interested in him romantically or podiatrically.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFZMhe1WeCQ

Comedic timing is everything

wyoming
Jun 7, 2010

Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

Fun story, guy takes his car in to get oil changed, they cut open the bottom of his car and drain the transmission fluid instead.



Hah, I love you can hear him start to cry at the end.

Nutsngum
Oct 9, 2004

I don't think it's nice, you laughing.

This kid owns.

Rorac
Aug 19, 2011

wyoming posted:

Fun story, guy takes his car in to get oil changed, they cut open the bottom of his car and drain the transmission fluid instead.



What the gently caress. :psyduck: Do the people that work at those places not have any sort of test to prove they're actually, you know, competent at working on cars?

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!

wyoming posted:

Fun story, guy takes his car in to get oil changed, they cut open the bottom of his car and drain the transmission fluid instead.
Extra schadenfreude in the "real men do their own oil changes" arguments unfolding in every place this story reaches. It's one of those perfect topics to start an argument for any forum dealing with cars.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

Rorac posted:

What the gently caress. :psyduck: Do the people that work at those places not have any sort of test to prove they're actually, you know, competent at working on cars?
I think they're just expect drivers to be complete ignoramuses and once that car out of the parking lot, it's no longer their problem. Drive though oil places make money by volume, and "techs" get paid accordingly. The incentive is to finish asap, no matter what

Bates
Jun 15, 2006

Once in a lifetime opportunity well spent.

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Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005


So, if I understand this right, his grand scheme goes about like this.

  • Lie his way into a position of power.
  • Cheat and rob some very rich, very powerful people.
  • Draw as much attention to himself as possible.
  • Piss off everyone.


loving amazing.

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