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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

From a friends fb:

quote:

Was having a post-work beer at Bar Open with Jamal, an African Muslim, and his friends, one from Sudan, the other from Egypt, when Tyson and Greg decided to sit with us. Yep, sleeve tatts and poo poo attitudes. Jamal and his mates were speaking in Arabic. Tyson and Greg were not impressed. Tyson sized me up, said, "What's your nasho, mate?" I said, "Uh... I'm Australian." Tyson and Greg had a little whisper which went along the lines of, "What are you gonna do here?" Tyson said, "Just watch." Tyson then asked all the others where they were from. They all stated their places of birth. Tyson then said, "Sorry, but listening to you, I thought you were all plotting to kill us." Nervous laughter. Then he asked how fast all the Africans at the table can run, "cos, you know, you're all good runners, so how fast can you do 6km?" Jamal extended his hand, made friends with them, told them that not all Africans are runners, or even athletes. It went on; this "explain your place in Australia to me" rubbish. Jamal has lived here for 22 years. The other guys 10 and 12 years. They dealt with this as though they hear it every day. And they probably do. It all ended with weird hugs and handshakes. After Tyson and Greg left, amidst sighs of relief, Jamal said, "I got them with love."

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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
hey nerds i am just back from a 5km run. feels good to be fit

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Recoome posted:

hey nerds i am just back from a 5km run. feels good to be fit

I just got back from a 30km jetski and it :feelsgood:

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Recoome posted:

hey nerds i am just back from a 5km run. feels good to be fit

I scrapped a double bed. Turns out it's not as hard as you'd think

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts
Just hit 40 here. Most apt thread title ever.

Vladimir Poutine posted:

I remember there being frost everywhere on that 7 degree night (nights in the Adelaide hills are slightly colder than where they take the measurements) and then it was 41 the same week, which was a bit jarring. I have faint childhood memories of the weather being normal, but my brain has classified them with things from the same era, like Commander Keen and those Nike shoes with the pump button on the tongue.

It used to snow every couple of years at the family farm. I have memories of that as being normal.

About thirty years ago it just stopped.

Even if you don't believe in global warming you would have to concede that building your society on finite resources is pretty loving stupid. Should be an open and shut case really. :suicide:

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Recoome posted:

hey nerds i am just back from a 5km run. feels good to be fit

I'm trying to work my way up to this, but my sister is telling me it's useless for what I'm doing it for, and apparently shorter intervals would be much more appropriate.

I miss being able to run long distance.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Apparently, for shorter distances - like 5km - walking is just as good for you health as running and a lot less stress on your joints.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Yeah 5km is just a shorter run for today because it's hot, I didn't want to push myself super hard before work tonight

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Gorilla Salad posted:

Apparently, for shorter distances - like 5km - walking is just as good for you health as running and a lot less stress on your joints.

Twenty minutes going up and down a steep hill is as good as walking for an hour.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Im a middle class white male, I have literally no reason to run. I just lift weights.

EXAKT Science
Aug 14, 2012

8 on the Kinsey scale

Laserface posted:

Im a middle class white male, I have literally no reason to run. I just lift weights.

You should probably do at least a little cardio, tho.

A Good Username
Oct 10, 2007

NSW state government has found the best way to combat drug use - memes.

http://www.stonersloth.com.au/

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

EXAKT Science posted:

You should probably do at least a little cardio, tho.

I do, I just cant run properly and have zero reason to bother to try. Rowing or cycling machines are more my jam.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Laserface posted:

Im a middle class white male, I have literally no reason to run. I just lift weights.

Never skip leg day.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

A Good Username posted:

NSW state government has found the best way to combat drug use - memes.

http://www.stonersloth.com.au/
George Lucas should sue imho.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

A Good Username posted:

NSW state government has found the best way to combat drug use - memes.

http://www.stonersloth.com.au/

I liked the Chasers old stuff better.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

A Good Username posted:

NSW state government has found the best way to combat drug use - memes.

http://www.stonersloth.com.au/

I don't think they realize that most people think sloths are awesome.

Serioulsy how fun does it look like being a sloth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djiPLoisyBE

EXAKT Science
Aug 14, 2012

8 on the Kinsey scale

Laserface posted:

I do, I just cant run properly and have zero reason to bother to try. Rowing or cycling machines are more my jam.

Right on. I don't like running either so I totes feel you.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Never skip leg day.

This is also a correct opinion.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

A Good Username posted:

NSW state government has found the best way to combat drug use - memes.

http://www.stonersloth.com.au/

It's like they went on tumblr and found a bunch of phrases they don't understand, then just plastered them as captions under unfunny sloth gifs.

Also why would a sloth need to get stoned? They are always chill as gently caress.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Even a perfectly executed campaign tackling the issues that might cause kids to turn to drugs, you're still not gonna stop the ones who do it because it's fun.

Throwing money at the issue to prevent hasn't worked. Just legalise it and sell it and turn drug prevention from a loss to a profit.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
#kronickoala

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
The other side is those people who use marijuana to self-medicate for anxiety/depression (and actually long term the self-medication causes further problems) so maybe some targeted ads and funding for youth mental health programs may go a long way in reducing marijuana use in young people.

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

Recoome posted:

The other side is those people who use marijuana to self-medicate for anxiety/depression (and actually long term the self-medication causes further problems) so maybe some targeted ads and funding for youth mental health programs may go a long way in reducing marijuana use in young people.

Yeah they already do that and it isn't working. A better idea would be to throw money at a solution to anxiety/depression instead of leaving it so that weed is the only solution.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

asio posted:

Yeah they already do that and it isn't working. A better idea would be to throw money at a solution to anxiety/depression instead of leaving it so that weed is the only solution.

I was trying to say that, but it's not necessarily that we can't already help this particular group of people, it's that mental health resources for this demographic are spread extremely thin/not accessible (at least in QLD). Couple this with the fact that GP's are very often the first port of call, and said GP's can be pretty unhelpful regarding the Mental Health Treatment Plans.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
Stoner Sloth and Meth Pug

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
i'm that sloth daily and I haven't toked a weed in years

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
When ur mate asks what you want in your kebab but you're too blazed to understand the question #stonersloth https://vine.co/v/iKamATbzqIp

https://twitter.com/k_morrissey/status/678023788848668672

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Wanna stone with that sloth

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

Recoome posted:

I was trying to say that, but it's not necessarily that we can't already help this particular group of people, it's that mental health resources for this demographic are spread extremely thin/not accessible (at least in QLD). Couple this with the fact that GP's are very often the first port of call, and said GP's can be pretty unhelpful regarding the Mental Health Treatment Plans.

Absolutely. Stoner sloth isn't going to help the kids who smoke weed to manage the come down off a crack high, or the kids who smoke weed because binge drinking has lost its appeal but still want to get smashed with mates. It's a reefer madness style response to a symptom.

Also, smoking weed is a celebrated cultural tradition in qld, I think the funniest thing about stoner sloth is its just another way to laugh at nsw.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
My biggest problem with stoner sloth is the sloth isn't adorable.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Wheezle posted:

It's like they went on tumblr and found a bunch of phrases they don't understand, then just plastered them as captions under unfunny sloth gifs.

Also why would a sloth need to get stoned? They are always chill as gently caress.

:agreed: I am extremely chill and don't smoke

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

A Good Username posted:

NSW state government has found the best way to combat drug use - memes.

http://www.stonersloth.com.au/

Smoking weed, not the life of the party? I better get black out drunk instead.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Solemn Sloth posted:

:agreed: I am extremely chill and don't smoke

Not even meth? Wow, hosed up if true.

Cocomonk3
Oct 21, 2010

ScreamingLlama posted:

Latest MYEFO shows a backslide to Hockeynomics

Health
Ripped another $650m out of Medicare by slashing bulk billing for diagnostic imaging and pathology


Hi. I work in Pathology billing. This is hosed up and will hurt a lot of people.

LONG EFFORTPOST AHEAD

So, you've heard that the government is planning to eliminate the Bulk Billing incentive from pathology billing. They don't think this is a huge deal, since it's paid direct to companies, not the patient. As someone working in the billing section of a pathology company, they're wrong. Our company is already discussing simply stopping Bulk Billing. http://www.smh.com.au/business/sonic-healthcare-to-charge-copayments-following-myefo-cuts-20151216-glpkzj.html

To understand why, lets look at pathology billing. All the information you need is in the Medicare Benefits schedule, a simple 904 page document. For pathology, thankfully, it's only 114 pages.

The important things for this conversation are the sections before the actual tests, in particular the Episode Cone section.

"
P.15.5. EPISODE CONE

The episode cone is an arrangement, described in Rule 18, which effectively places an upper limit on the number of items for which Medicare benefits are payable in a patient episode. This cone only applies to services requested by general practitioners for their non-hospitalised patients. Pathology services requested for hospital in-patients, or ordered by specialists, are not subject to these coning arrangements.

When more than 3 items are requested by a general practitioner in a patient episode, the benefits payable will be equivalent to the sum of the benefits for the three items with the highest Schedule fees. Rule 18 provides that for the two items with the highest Schedule fees, Medicare benefits will be payable for each item. The remaining items are regarded as one service for which the benefit payable will be equivalent to that for the item with the third highest Schedule fee. Where items have the same Schedule fee, their item numbers are used as an artificial means to rank them

"

What this means, in basic, is that on any day 3 pathology items can be charged (plus the Bulk Billing Incentive and a Government Accredited Collect and Handling Fee, BBI and PEI). If you have one test done, then we can charge that test plus BBI and PEI. If you have 14 tests... we can charge 3 tests plus BBI and PEI. This even includes if we send out a private account. Only if a specialist refers the tests or you're in hospital can we actually charge everything. The BBI and PEI are basically an attempt to make up for the fact that in a lot of cases, we're working for free.

It gets worse, of course. That's three tests per day, plus PEI and BBI. If another lab does two tests, then refers on to us for five tests, we do five tests and get paid... one. Plus no PEI or BBI, because the first lab will have done those. If a test is done and doesn't meet the Medicare requirements (no more than 32 of item 66626 in a 12 month period, etc etc.) then those test costs won't be paid, and are written off. Because once Medicare has paid on an episode, it won't pay again. If a test that wasn't billed with the first lot has to be added to them, we lose that money too. First three lodged get paid. The BBI+PEI usually comes to $5-$15 per episode, as a note.

Add to this the fact that the costs of tests are set by Medicare, and those fees haven't increased in around 20 years. Reagent costs, staff costs, rent, all of that goes up, but we have to take the Medicare charge from 20 years ago. So why do we Bulk Bill? Well, patients want it and doctors want it.

Patients want it because it means they don't need to pay anything. Even with a Rebate account, where we don't charge the patient more than what Medicare covers, they still have to deal with Medicare, which nobody wants to do. Doctors want it because patients want it, and because it means they can get away with charging more for their services. Think of how difficult it is to get a Bulk Billing doctor. Those same doctor surgeries which state they Do Not Bulk Bill, No, You Must Pay are the same ones that call us up screaming that we've DARED to send their patient a bill for tests rather than Bulk Bill.

So what does this mean? Pathology profits are shrinking. If we lose the Bulk Billing Incentive, and god forbid the PEI, and the schedule fees don't increase, then Bulk Billing will start costing pathology companies money. Around 90% of our testing is billed to Medicare, but despite that our company's profits primarily go off our corporate and drug screen testing. Drug screens are big money. If the BBI goes, then private billing may well become the norm. Enjoy paying every time you have a blood test done (or urine test, semen test, stool test, skin test...). Checking iron levels? Bill. INR? Bill. Fertility testing? $500+ bill. Pap smear, STD check, sick child, mole removed and tested, bill for every one of them. Medicare will cover some of it, sure, but not all. And you'll have to deal with Medicare more often. Hope they have a lot more staff.

Also gently caress whichever Coalition dickhead said it would foster competition. It's impossible to compete over prices, the prices for Bulk Billing are set by Medicare. The MBS states the prices. If you Bulk Bill, that's what you get paid. End of discussion. All we could do is reduce costs. Which could never have consequences on the quality of service.

Profit wise, private pathology companies will probably do okay. We'd have to hire extra staff to take care of all the extra payments coming through! But it will suck for, y'know, sick people. Or just people trying to stay healthy. Or old people. Or people on low incomes. Or basically anyone who ever has to have a blood or urine or semen or stool or skin sample test.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Birb Katter posted:

Not even meth? Wow, hosed up if true.

This is my posting: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3753906&userid=215420

This is my posting on meth: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3703031&userid=215420

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

A Good Username posted:

NSW state government has found the best way to combat drug use - memes.

http://www.stonersloth.com.au/



This has backfired horribly and the marijuana cpuncil has demanded their name be removed.

Magog
Jan 9, 2010
It's almost like the people opposed to cannabis use are out of touch.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

Cocomonk3 posted:

Hi. I work in Pathology billing. This is hosed up and will hurt a lot of people.

LONG EFFORTPOST AHEAD

Thanks for that. I knew that it would be a bad thing but it's nice to know exactly why.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Mods rename to #stonedsloth please

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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



That sloth knows how to have a good time.

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