Nuebot posted:I like the AC/20's. That's what the trial one uses, right? They had a nice bang to them and once I got over the instinct to just rush at things and spam the fire button they could clean up pretty good. People don't like being shot at by a giant metal crab. I kind of want to give 4AC/5's a shot just to see the difference though. What's the difference between AC/5 and UltraAC/5? UACs are slighly faster, and can be fired twice in quick succession; if you don't wait for the normal cooldown, though, you'll risk a jam (15% chance).
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Triple Ought Bee 3 LPL 3 SRM6+A Biggest engine it can fit. Take about half the armor off the arms, rest for ammo and DHS. Maximize hilarity by adding 6 MG for up close punch.
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Dec 19, 2015 15:27
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Nuebot posted:I like the AC/20's. That's what the trial one uses, right? They had a nice bang to them and once I got over the instinct to just rush at things and spam the fire button they could clean up pretty good. People don't like being shot at by a giant metal crab. I kind of want to give 4AC/5's a shot just to see the difference though. What's the difference between AC/5 and UltraAC/5? The Ultra version lets you double tap to fire one more time before the cool down is over, but with a chance of jamming the weapon. 4 UAC/5 Crabs are great at making people flee from the nonstop camera shake of being pounded by ballistics.
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Dec 19, 2015 15:29
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What's the Clan equivalent of the Atlas, anyway?
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Dec 19, 2015 16:00
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Lemon Curdistan posted:What's the Clan equivalent of the Atlas, anyway? In terms of "push mech designed to soak up all the damage and dish out three or four punishing alphas before dying"? honestly there isn't one. Clan Assaults play differently Maybe when/if they release the Kodiak
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Dec 19, 2015 16:05
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trip report: dual-gauss HBK-IIC is a thing that works and is fun it's like a slightly more fragile GaussJager with jumpjets
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Dec 19, 2015 16:33
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Lemon Curdistan posted:What's the Clan equivalent of the Atlas, anyway? Dire Wolf/Daishi. It's a 100t gundam with 50.5 tons free for weapons while still carrying 99% of its maximum armor. It's got an XL engine, but it's a Clan XL so losing one torso doesn't kill you. Of course, its hitboxes are a bit less forgiving than the Atlas (it's basically a giant walking square) but it's got way more guns. A more gofast pushpush Clan assault would be the Executioner, but it's got a mere 40 tons of free space, not counting the ~18 tons of armor you'll want to toss onto it. Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 19, 2015 17:03
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Pattonesque posted:In terms of "push mech designed to soak up all the damage and dish out three or four punishing alphas before dying"? Yeah, this. Basically, I was wondering what the Clan gets that can spearhead an assault by being a giant walking gunwall, because I like the Atlas playstyle a lot. I'll see about getting a Direwolf in the distant future, once I have two more 'crows.
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Dec 19, 2015 17:24
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Yeah, this. Basically, I was wondering what the Clan gets that can spearhead an assault by being a giant walking gunwall, because I like the Atlas playstyle a lot. As has been said, the dire wolf is slower and arguably squishier than the atlas, plus it carries a lot of its firepower in the arms. It's a very different beast.
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Dec 19, 2015 17:32
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The Direwolf pushes by vaporizing things in front of it rather than by being a highly durable wall of hatred and SRMs.
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Dec 19, 2015 17:59
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Atlas: useless at long or medium range mostly missile/ballistic based needs only as much facetime as it takes to let the AC/SRMs loose shitloads of internal structure quirks huge shield arms one of the best 'mechs at spreading damage in the game Dire Wolf best at long or medium range mostly energy/ballistic based needs a lot of facetime no internal/structure quirks useless shield arms very difficult to spread damage Now, the Dire Wolf is still really good because of the sheer size of the pinpoint alpha it can boat (lots of builds are dual gauss plus LPL plus ERML, which is basically the firepower of two heavy 'mechs), and if one catches you unawares you are totally boned, but it will lose to an Atlas at close range. The two robots are almost from different games in terms of how differently they are used
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Dec 19, 2015 18:01
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Really we just need BMR to 1v1 himself with an Atlas and Direwolf.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:21
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skip to like 24:30 in this video for why Atlas beats Dire at close range even though the Dire doubles his damage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk1YTUzmdSk
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Dec 19, 2015 18:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUFeMXzocYQ Last of the urbanmech videos from last night.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:40
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Pattonesque posted:The two robots are almost from different games in terms of how differently they are used Yeah, that sounds like the Direwolf isn't what I want, really, and I should just suck it up and get an Atlas. Thanks!
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I'm not going to try to dissuade you from buying an Atlas because everyone should have a DDC for Ghost Dad shenanigans at the very least. However, do at least try a round or two in the trial Direwolf before you write them off completely. It's pretty much the epitome of mobile turret gameplay, but that much pure firepower has its own appeal.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:17
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Astroniomix posted:The Direwolf pushes by vaporizing things in front of it rather than by being a highly durable wall of hatred and SRMs. And that's why it's the best mech!
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Dec 19, 2015 19:34
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So I'd kind of like to play this game with people. Can I get an invite to one of the goon groups? Should I care which one? IGN is spamman5r
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Dec 19, 2015 20:05
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Pattonesque posted:skip to like 24:30 in this video for why Atlas beats Dire at close range even though the Dire doubles his damage Christ, Atlas are faster than I thought, my stalkers just hit 61 kph with 300std and speed tweak.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:07
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Drakes posted:Christ, Atlas are faster than I thought, my stalkers just hit 61 kph with 300std and speed tweak. If you're not running an Atlas with a 350 you're basically the worst.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:13
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Fil5000 posted:If you're not running an Atlas with a 350 you're basically the worst. 350 also helps with twisting which will help you Atlas for much longer
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Dec 19, 2015 20:38
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I think I have one with a 340. 
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Great Beer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUFeMXzocYQ Oh god you guys were playing on euro servers wtf.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:19
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A.o.D. posted:Oh god you guys were playing on euro servers wtf. East Coast gets like 90ms ping to the Europe servers.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:23
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Fil5000 posted:If you're not running an Atlas with a 350 you're basically the worst. 360 or bust, scrubs (although with the introduction of good Artemis, maybe you can only do a 350, even without lasers in the arms).
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I spent last night robutting. The 6xAC/2 King Crab was dumb but fun. I hated Novas, but I have the D lying around so I dusted it off, gave it two godhands of small lasers and played around. Balancing the fire rate without spiking myself to shutdown is nearly as fun as drilling off body parts every time I laserpunch someone. I had to downgrade the 360 to a 350 on my Atlas to fit an LBX-10. Jumped a Direwolf and ate it. And others. Bawk.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:East Coast gets like 90ms ping to the Europe servers. Good for them, I guess.
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Nuebot posted:People don't like being shot at by a giant metal crab.  had a great run last night with bird scout lance, highlight being alchenar spotting 2 Atlai and a Blackjack tromping up a hill in tourmaline and us coring them out in like ten seconds before they even realised we existed. that was a short game. sebmojo fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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A.o.D. posted:Oh god you guys were playing on euro servers wtf. I suddenly gained group lead and I just clicked the button to queue us up. I didn't know I had to click a tiny arrow and deselect Oceania!
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sebmojo posted:
Yeah that was brutal...6 spls are surprisingly good at coring assaults if you have 4 mechs alpha striking them at the same time.
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So why is it that sometimes I can't target a guy? I'm like looking right at him, trying to shoot him and I hit the target button and the game says "Target Aquired" but it'll target someone I'm not even looking at.
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Nuebot posted:So why is it that sometimes I can't target a guy? I'm like looking right at him, trying to shoot him and I hit the target button and the game says "Target Aquired" but it'll target someone I'm not even looking at. probably running ECM. You cant target a mech in an ECM bubble unless you're inside of 150 meters (? I think? something like that)
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Makes sense. I figured there was some kind of item but had no clue what. I think I'm starting to get the hang of this game though, I got 3 kills earlier. Moving on up in the world. EDIT: Got my crab some double heatsinks, next bout of money I can start shoving guns into it. Excitement abounds. Turns out the trial one has AC5's and I really like those. So are the AC20's huge monster cannons? By the way when it comes to things like heatsinks is it better to spread them out on both sides, or pile them on to one side? One more question, is there any way to just bail out of a game before it starts? Because I loving hate this forest map. I can't see for poo poo on it and I don't know how anyone else can. It's just a blob of black and green. Nuebot fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Could I get a re-invite to GIRL again, my name in game is Nephila. Also the mumble info would help as well.
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Nuebot posted:Makes sense. I figured there was some kind of item but had no clue what. I think I'm starting to get the hang of this game though, I got 3 kills earlier. Moving on up in the world. There's not really a way to bail out before a round starts without leaving your team down a man. You just have to roll with the punches. For some of the more foliage heavy maps (like that shithole Viridian Bog), you may find it helpful to turn on Thermal Vision. It makes it a bit easier to see stuff in contrast. Be aware that it has more limited range than normal vision, as everything just goes to a wall of black after awhile. Still, if you're a low visibility situation anyway, it can often help you pick out mechs through the crap.
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Nuebot posted:Makes sense. I figured there was some kind of item but had no clue what. I think I'm starting to get the hang of this game though, I got 3 kills earlier. Moving on up in the world. That's a Mk1 eyeball problem or you're playing on a low resolution. I see clear as day on that map. In fact I don't use "vision enhancement" modes either. No nightvision, no thermal, you see further and more clearly using your normal vision.
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I am playing in windowed mode, I'll try something bigger, maybe that will help. EDIT: Just because I don't think I got a solid answer on it, all the build suggestions I see say to just stack everything on one side or another like heatsinks instead of balancing them. Is that the best way to do things? I guess it is since everyone suggests doing it but I'd just like to be sure. Nuebot fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Nuebot posted:Makes sense. I figured there was some kind of item but had no clue what. I think I'm starting to get the hang of this game though, I got 3 kills earlier. Moving on up in the world. I think the trial has 4 UAC5s not regular AC5s. UACs you can double tap it before it finishes cooling down and it will fire a second shot at the risk of jamming which causes it to be unusable for like 5 seconds or so? Also, sometimes NV is better than Thermal imo. Depends heavily on time and map. Back in the day no one played in anything but Thermal because there was no range limit on it, so they capped it for how far you can see with it on. So doesn't matter what happened, everyone was just playing in black and white.... edit: Unrelated item: Thoughts on an 4 UAC10 Dakkawolf? I'm currently messing around with a 6UAC5 Dakkawolf but 4UAC10 is lighter and I could squeeze in a TC and 1t of ammo. The paper Alpha strike would be higher too since 40 vs 30. I'm spacepoor from having too many mechs to work on and 4 UAC10s would run 2.4mil. TVDinna fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Dec 20, 2015 02:51
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Can I get a reinvite to WoL? I'm still in MWO as Ironworm and would love to be smashing pubs with Gunes.
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Can I get a reinvite to WoL? IGN is ShiroIchida (that's an capital i not a l). Are Thunderbolts still great? Looks like they haven't really changed the perks, but all I really remember is they had a bunch of random energy stuff, so the numbers could have gone down and I wouldn't know.
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