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What gun are you going to use in this Call of Duty?
The good one that everyone else uses
Another, different gun
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Cadetcons
Aug 15, 2008

widespread posted:

Welp, I dunno if I can get Battle or Chameleon. Should I get Ardent and go right to XM53 unlocks?

Make a separate class for it and switch when you see the appropriate streak come in. But yeah, time for some Direct Impact Infantry kills!

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Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007

Here's Reddit's shocking proof that SBMM is in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOiDZnjSAZU

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Mill Village posted:

Here's Reddit's shocking proof that SBMM is in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOiDZnjSAZU

See, by not showing his scores in his previous matches, he can say that SBMM doesn't exist because we never see how much of a bad he was.

teknetik
Jan 13, 2010

SO
JEWISH
So apparently they removed SBMM five hours ago. All this time I'm wondering what the gently caress people were complaining about as pubbies were exceptionally bad tonight.

Spudsly
Jul 11, 2006
They had to remove it because it couldn't find a match for me, because of my extraordinary skill.

It's.... unmatched. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
I'm glad they're lazy enough about patching the PC release that they had time to implement SBMM, then take it out, and I haven't had to experience a second of it. It's kind of nice, actually.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

teknetik posted:

So apparently they removed SBMM five hours ago. All this time I'm wondering what the gently caress people were complaining about as pubbies were exceptionally bad tonight.

Did any dev ever confirm it briefly existed? It's really weird I saw the huge wall of "TREYARCH PLEASE!!!" posts on the subreddit but I couldn't find the initial "evidence" ever.

Also honestly I'm pretty bad at the game and it doesn't affect me but if we put aside the potential connection issues (which admittedly I've been very lucky with) isn't getting in a lobby with people of similar skill better than the previous (and apparently, current) solution where they adjust teams within a lobby based on performance? At least with the SBMM thing EVERYONE is generally in the same range, but currently you'll perform really well in one game (and I've noticed this because even I have my hot-streaks) and if you stick around for another round all of a sudden you're on a team with everyone who went like 4-26 in the prior game. The way that XP and stuff works it isn't a HUGE deal but if you're specifically going for the "win games" challenges I can see how that's a bummer. I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about THAT system because it's existed very transparently since launch and does way more to "punish winning" in basically any mode but FFA.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
I joined a game of Domination that was halfway through. It was 100-13 at the half.

I turned it around though, we ended it 200-80!

Edit: https://youtu.be/t6FEfR1Eej0 I also did this. I love fireman.

Push El Burrito fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Dec 20, 2015

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



goferchan posted:

Also honestly I'm pretty bad at the game and it doesn't affect me but if we put aside the potential connection issues (which admittedly I've been very lucky with) isn't getting in a lobby with people of similar skill better than the previous (and apparently, current) solution where they adjust teams within a lobby based on performance?
Yes it is.


The thing is that this game is 70% connection issues.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Ghostlight posted:

Yes it is.


The thing is that this game is 70% connection issues.

Question: Is it Treyarch's fault for the lousy netcode or is it Activision's fault?

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Ghostlight posted:

Yes it is.


The thing is that this game is 70% connection issues.

It's weird because in my experience it's pretty all-or-nothing. Admittedly I have a really good connection but 9/10 games (or really more than that) will be totally fine and then I'll get a really really bad one. Doesn't seem to be any in-between going on

RossCo
Dec 30, 2012

I have no idea what I am doing in almost any given situation.

widespread posted:

Question: Is it Treyarch's fault for the lousy netcode or is it Activision's fault?

Treyarch. You can blame publishers for a lot (poor overall design choices can be inflicted, bad business models, rushed releases are all prime examples of publisher badness). The actual implementation of networking is smack bang in the developers wheelhouse, I cannot imagine an external producer wandering by and expressing an opinion on the approach to connection optimisation in any scenario (they'll be too busy sticking their oar into shinier features).

Edit: With one small caveat. The developer could ask for the budget to host dedicated servers and when the publishers stopped:

(a) Looking up what that was
(b) Laughing

they would say no.

RossCo fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Dec 20, 2015

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


RossCo posted:

Treyarch. You can blame publishers for a lot (poor overall design choices can be inflicted, bad business models, rushed releases are all prime examples of publisher badness). The actual implementation of networking is smack bang in the developers wheelhouse, I cannot imagine an external producer wandering by and expressing an opinion on the approach to connection optimisation in any scenario (they'll be too busy sticking their oar into shinier features).

Edit: With one small caveat. The developer could ask for the budget to host dedicated servers and when the publishers stopped:

(a) Looking up what that was
(b) Laughing

they would say no.

So let me get this straight. For PC users, they tried to go for dedicated servers, but when Activision said no, they had to slap together the networking? Or was Treyarch always bad with netcode?

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

teknetik posted:

So apparently they removed SBMM five hours ago. All this time I'm wondering what the gently caress people were complaining about as pubbies were exceptionally bad tonight.
I'd like to imagine some high-up at Treyarch dragging a programmer in-

:what: 'So, people are going nuts about this SBMM thing, what are we doing about it?'
:confused: 'Uhh.. No idea. We didn't code it in.'
:stare: 'Eh. Say we turned it off anyway.'

Personally I wish they'd tune down the levelling curve. It feels almost painfully slow this time around, and is really killing my urge to play outside of 2XP. I won't hold out my hopes for better spawns. :lol:

RossCo
Dec 30, 2012

I have no idea what I am doing in almost any given situation.

widespread posted:

So let me get this straight. For PC users, they tried to go for dedicated servers, but when Activision said no, they had to slap together the networking? Or was Treyarch always bad with netcode?

No idea what actually happened in this case, just saying that dedicated servers as a thing are always going to annoy the money men.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

The_Fuzzinator posted:

Streaming right now group of guys being terribad. come insult us please thanks http://www.twitch.tv/the_fuzzinator

Cool, custom skins for the thermals too. :aaa:

The_Fuzzinator
Oct 9, 2007

I know now why you Cuddle. But it's something I can never do.

Mister Macys posted:

Cool, custom skins for the thermals too. :aaa:

im still in between if i like high score *astroids* or Guardian *Space invaders* more.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Also, I tried out the Nightmare mode because it apparently gives out crypto keys (?) and it's just s replay of the campaign with zombies that literally spawn out of thin air and kill you in 3 hits.

It is incredibly loving stupid.

And yet, it's still better than the actual zombies mode, AND the actual campaign.

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---
I don't know if there actually was SBMM or not, but yesterday I had the best games since the game came out. Totally dominated. Might also be because I played at a different time than usual.

Something else, you can be an rear end in a top hat and place a guardian on the wall-running part on Combine. Just when the player is about to jump off the wall, he gets stunned and falls to his death. Pretty hilarious :D

EDIT: By the way, the heatwave ability is awesome. I was a huge fan of the purifier, but heatwave enables you to get out of sticky situations.

shut up blegum fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Dec 20, 2015

Superanos
Nov 13, 2009

Finally, 100 headshots with the Dredge.

And of course I have 3/10 Revenge medals before anything else because everyone keeps killing me while I hold this lovely gun.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Stayed up with Deceased to finish off the loving Haymaker headshots, gently caress that gun forever. You lose to every other gun in the game in a fair firefight. So I didn't. Ran suppressor, flashbangs, scavenger, gung ho, and ran around like an idiot blinding the enemy team all match long while jumping over their heads.

Improbable events occured:

Activated Annihilator, pubby drops Power Core, its near me, no one kills me, I destroy it :stare: 1/5 done!!!!!11

Following match, drop Wraith/HATR/RAPS with the Haymaker :haw: Opposing pubby has switched to tac mask and is throwing flash bangs at me :haw: :haw: Another pubby has switched to a KRM to 'counter' us :confused:

Following match, using 6 attachments haymaker, drop Wraith/HATR/RAPS again, and go on a 15 gun streak :stare:

Just need to finish revenges and no attachment kills and I'm done with that piece of poo poo forever.

I don't know what the gently caress they were thinking with the nerf, there is no reason to use it now. 300rpm gun that takes a minimum of 3 shots to kill. gg. I don't care if it has a 1 foot range for a 1sk and a 5 foot range for a 2sk, it's just plain bad now. Not even bad, I'd vote worst gun in the game. A shotgun with the worst ttk in the game.

Bleh. Glad that's almost over with. Drakon is done too, so I get to use 'real' snipers now :v:

Puckish Rogue
Jun 24, 2010

I...Only have 20 glitches, 10 rejacks and then double of the weapons and specials for those left before hero.

I don;t think I can do this. I hate rejack and have an awful time with it. I went through a 5 glitch combine with 0 kills and now just want to use someone else, but I've completed the other specialists.

gently caress this.

Arae
Jul 27, 2003
Scavenger, grenades, and overclock are a reliable way to get glitch kills. Toss and cook grenade appropriate time then glitch. You can still get regular kills if grenade misses.

Remember you can put pin back into grenade to cancel explosion while cooking.

Puckish Rogue
Jun 24, 2010

Arae posted:

Scavenger, grenades, and overclock are a reliable way to get glitch kills. Toss and cook grenade appropriate time then glitch. You can still get regular kills if grenade misses.

Remember you can put pin back into grenade to cancel explosion while cooking.

Yeah this is going to have to be my way forward. Plan the kill first, not the glitch.

That or I'm going to break mentally.

sba
Jul 9, 2001

bae

victrix posted:

Stayed up with Deceased to finish off the loving Haymaker headshots, gently caress that gun forever.

yeah, it's super bad...it's like a 4 shot kill for a shotgun, the gently caress is that about? Losing close range gun fights to pistols and SMGs isn't a thing that should happen very often with a shotgun

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
It uses birdshot. :haw:

housefly
Sep 11, 2001

Play hardcore playlist so it doesn't feel like you're shooting a nerf gun. I've been having a blast leveling up my pistols the last couple days in hc domination.

Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.
So Vonderhaar addressed the SBMM situation on Twitter. Basically he said while they did alter matchmaking in a hotfix they didn't have any parameter take priority over connection. They did revert the changes as "It did come with consequences we didn't understand in totality."

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

lol confirmation bias is a hell of a drug

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006

Javes posted:

"It did come with consequences we didn't understand in totality."
treyarch.txt

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
I miss exploding barrels killing your own teammates and hacking friendly Care Packages... :sigh:

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Mister Macys posted:

I miss exploding barrels killing your own teammates and hacking friendly Care Packages... :sigh:

You can still reroll their high level streaks into UAVs if you're quick!

Puckish Rogue
Jun 24, 2010

Glitch became much easier when I discovered I can just leap over the two people I want to kill, glitch back and then Not AK them in the face. Just Tempest, 9 rejacks, and then the double hive/rejacks.

Not bad considering I was diamonding SMG's and just switching classes for extra xp. Kinda got away from me...

E: Expect a major bitchfit as I work my way through rejacks. I mean the meltdown will be spectacular.

Puckish Rogue fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Dec 20, 2015

teknetik
Jan 13, 2010

SO
JEWISH

Javes posted:

So Vonderhaar addressed the SBMM situation on Twitter. Basically he said while they did alter matchmaking in a hotfix they didn't have any parameter take priority over connection. They did revert the changes as "It did come with consequences we didn't understand in totality."

This isn't nearly as saucy as Bungie's incompetence with decimals when nerfing weapons in Destiny, but it's pretty amusing nonetheless.

eleven extra elephants
Feb 16, 2007

Menschliches! Allzumenschliches!!
Hello, who wants to play with your ol friend will die alone

u do, yes u.

Mill Village
Jul 27, 2007

Time to start learning how to use the Dart. :stare:

http://i.imgur.com/3E371ok.webm

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Dalai Trauma posted:

Glitch became much easier when I discovered I can just leap over the two people I want to kill, glitch back and then Not AK them in the face. Just Tempest, 9 rejacks, and then the double hive/rejacks.

Not bad considering I was diamonding SMG's and just switching classes for extra xp. Kinda got away from me...

E: Expect a major bitchfit as I work my way through rejacks. I mean the meltdown will be spectacular.

If you happen to be in my party tonight, Rejack is an Approved Topic on which to rage freely, because its loving terrible.

Going out to the movies in a bit, drinking whiskey, then I'll be on later to finish the hayshooter and maybe run around with a combat knife for kicks.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Mill Village posted:

Time to start learning how to use the Dart. :stare:

http://i.imgur.com/3E371ok.webm

Fuckin' eh. :prepop:

housefly
Sep 11, 2001

Mill Village posted:

Time to start learning how to use the Dart. :stare:

http://i.imgur.com/3E371ok.webm

I'm running it. It's a little weird to figure out the controls at first, and it has limited rounds, but you always get the kamikaze at the end.

Note that it totally sucks on majority indoor maps (clearly).

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



The most fun Dart kills are the indoors ones simply because everyone runs inside thinking there's no way you can follow them.

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