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That doesn't sound as bad as the "no labels" my friend was telling me about, should have read the article first hand not 2nd hand. Still, when you've gotten to the point that you're distributing in supermarkets you should probably know the basic food labeling laws. You make certain information optional and then no one does it. Any leeway you give 'small local produces' will be jumped upon tenfold by the corporate players to avoid regulations. Sometimes rules that seem silly or bothersome in extremely specific situations are in fact very important in the grand scheme of things. Sucks for this lady, but better than the alternative of no one labeling anything.
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large hands posted:but do you really need to know the percentage of recommended daily intake of iron that's in your egg nog ice cream or w/e? Yeah turns out some people like to know what they're eating, what a shock (your friend is a moron)
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large hands posted:she buys milk and eggs from local farmers and has weird ingredients like pine needles and stuff so she would have to get each tiny batch of ice cream lab analysed for content. i honestly don't have a problem with that, even though it's expensive; we all have to follow the rules. just pointing out that baronjutter is talking out of his rear end I looked up the article, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/small-ice-cream-maker-says-labelling-rules-are-bad-for-business-1.3364840 Look, I'm not from Victoria but people buying food in a grocery store should reasonably be able to expect that the food is safe and is made out of other food grade ingredients like not loving pine needles from the park. Imagine if Maple Leaf was raking up pine needles and putting them in Great North Breakfast Sausages. As much of a small government guy that I am, good on the CFIA for shutting these practices down. quote:"I just do everything intuitively now," said Maxwell, who admitted she doesn't keep a record of past recipes.
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I'm going to make an ice cream with sterilized fecal matter in it. I'm going to sell it in unlabelled containers and call it CANPOL THREAD ICE CREAM
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/small-ice-cream-maker-says-labelling-rules-are-bad-for-business-1.3364840 posted:She says she could have come up with federally-approved labels from the beginning — but it would have been a daunting and expensive task. So she could have been doing it proper, but didn't want too cause it would be hard and she'd make less money
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Cultural Imperial posted:I'm going to make an ice cream with sterilized fecal matter in it. I'm going to sell it in unlabelled containers and call it CANPOL THREAD ICE CREAM Would still taste better than candy cane 
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Cultural Imperial posted:I'm going to make an ice cream with sterilized fecal matter in it. I'm going to sell it in unlabelled containers and call it CANPOL THREAD ICE CREAM If you'd like I will send you a sample of my brand of icecream, you should even pay me for the service to stimulate the economy
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Ben Myers Senior Vice President, Market Research and Analytics, Fortress Real Developments posted:Toronto And Vancouver Real Estate Is Undervalued - Globally Speaking http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8810878 The difference between Vancouver and all those other cities is you can actually make money in those places.
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http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8810878 posted:If you paid $400,000 for a condo downtown, does it makes sense to pay $500,000 for a bigger unit up the street, or $700,000 for a house in the suburbs? You might even contemplate moving out of the metro area altogether to a smaller city or town a couple of hours away, because you know the prices are 40 per cent lower. Toronto and Vancouver are so expensive because they just went SSJ2. Thanks for the insightful analysis Huffington Post! 
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Baronjutter posted:More evidence "local small business" are greedy lazy idiots. Translation: Our business would fail if we told our customers the truth (though based on large hands's posts she was just too lazy to comply with regulations?) large hands posted:Uhh no. That's an acquaintance of mine, it's pretty much a one person operation with occasional help. The ingredients are all labelled, just not the daily percent of vitamins/calories/fats etc. That would be pretty onerous for them as they make multiple different new flavours every month in batches of only a couple dozen pints. It does come across as kind of whiny to go to the cbc about it but do you really need to know the percentage of recommended daily intake of iron that's in your egg nog ice cream or w/e? Haha there's no "Uhh no" to that, you just described the situation in different words. Having names but not including the information that people actually want to know doesn't count! Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Ikantski posted:Would still taste better than candy cane candy cane icecream is delicious, what the hell is wrong with you.
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Professor Shark posted:Haha there's no "Uhh no" to that, you just described the situation in different words. Having names but not including the information that people actually want to know doesn't count! Baronjutter posted:That doesn't sound as bad as the "no labels" my friend was telling me about, should have read the article first hand not 2nd hand. Anyway she obviously got in over her head when she started selling to supermarkets and will have to figure out a compromise, as I don't think a sob story in the local rag is going to gather much sympathy from the food inspection agency. Maybe she'll send a heartfelt letter to Trudeau. ...and who the hell checks the nutritional facts on the tub of ice cream they're buying? A quick look at the ingredients if you're allergic or something or want to see if it's made with garbage.
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Yeah nutritional facts who had time for that onerousness!!!!!!!!!
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Wait I thought rules and regulations were for big companies. I'm just a little guy!!
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large hands posted:...and who the hell checks the nutritional facts on the tub of ice cream they're buying? A quick look at the ingredients if you're allergic or something or want to see if it's made with garbage. Someone will, that's why it's the law! 
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Professor Shark posted:Someone will, that's why it's the law! Indeed.
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Im going to make ice cream out of the tar sands goop and save the Canadian economy. Regulations, safety and protocols dont apply when Im doing under the guise of small business.
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Mantle posted:http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8810878 Relying on reliable metrics like price-to-income ratio and price-to-rent ratio confines us creatively, so let's cherry-pick some numbers.
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Mantle posted:http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8810878 They also have iconic cultural activities that people are willing to pay out the rear end to experience just once in their lifetime, let alone live in the same city as. The same cannot be said for this podunk little mining and logging port.
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I check the nutritional info on ice cream every time I buy some because believe it or not some people actually give a poo poo what goes into their bodies! Large hands your friend is an idiot and going by your posts about this topic so are you.
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HookShot posted:I check the nutritional info on ice cream every time I buy some because believe it or not some people actually give a poo poo what goes into their bodies! gently caress you fatass (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Should have started a craft brewery instead, she could have put all the pinecones she wanted in her products with no obligation to list ingredients, let alone nutritional information. No pesky federal food safety inspections either!Cultural Imperial posted:I'm going to make an ice cream with sterilized fecal matter in it. I'm going to sell it in unlabelled containers and call it CANPOL THREAD ICE CREAM edit: as long as you put an ABV on the bottle of course. (No actual requirement that it be in any way accurate, as long as you aren't intending to sell it through government stores) Kreez fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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http://www.macleans.ca/economy/economicanalysis/the-days-of-easy-money-in-the-housing-market-are-over/quote:If you recently bought a home in Toronto or Vancouver solely to make a quick financial gain, you probably just made a mistake. We humans are averse to loss, and real estate in Canada’s two biggest cities has looked like easy money for several years now. But as behavioural economist Richard Thaler reminded me recently in the pages of his latest book, asset prices inevitably revert to their historical mean. “Recent momentum in prices in Toronto and Vancouver may increase the likelihood of a correction in house prices, which could affect vulnerable households,” Bank of Canada governor Stephen Poloz said at a press conference in Ottawa on Dec. 15. City slickers, you’ve been warned.  quote:The Bank of Canada seems to see things roughly the same way. Poloz’s press conference followed the release of the central bank’s December financial system review (FSR), which concluded that a record household-debt burden makes Canada vulnerable to a housing crash, although policy-makers see little reason to think that will happen. The governor was asked whether someone in a place such as Moose Jaw, Sask., should worry about the value of his or her home being pulled down by a correction in Toronto and/or Vancouver. “I think not,” Poloz said. There are fundamental reasons prices are elevated in those cities, he said; employment is strong and populations are growing faster than the housing stock. “I think of it as a local phenomenon,” he said of real estate prices, effectively ruling out the possibility that his interest-rate policy has stoked a national mania. Ok then. Nothing to see here. quote:about eight per cent of households are carrying debt that is 350 per cent or more of their gross income. (The authors chose 350 per cent because that’s the level of debt at which borrowers tend to start missing payments.) Most of those households are in Alberta, British Columbia and Ontario. Alberta’s prospects are grim, but things are looking up in B.C. and Ontario. The Bank of Canada isn’t going to alter its stimulus plans for one province.  Stephen Poloz posted:The governor was asked whether someone in a place such as Moose Jaw, Sask., should worry about the value of his or her home being pulled down by a correction in Toronto and/or Vancouver. “I think not,” Poloz said. There are fundamental reasons prices are elevated in those cities, he said; employment is strong and populations are growing faster than the housing stock. “I think of it as a local phenomenon,” he said of real estate prices, effectively ruling out the possibility that his interest-rate policy has stoked a national mania. Oh really? So what's driving economic growth in BC? http://www.news1130.com/2015/12/07/bc-economic-growth-conference-board/ quote:There is another positive economic outlook for British Columbia, this one from the Conference Board of Canada. Literally, the loving Governor of the Bank of Canada says that there won't be a risk of correction of the housing markets in Toronto and BC because their economies are strong. And what's driving BC's economy? loving HOME CONSTRUCTION AND BUYING HOME RELATED BULLSHIT
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http://business.financialpost.com/n...decimate-sectorquote:The oil and gas sector will see 100,000 job losses by the end of this year, including 40,000 direct jobs, as a combination of policy uncertainties and low crude oil prices decimates the sector, the head of the country’s oil and gas industry group says.  quote:“Canadians should be concerned in times like these,” Tim McMillan, president and chief executive of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers, said in an interview. “We have a lot of big policy pieces moving around. We need … to ensure we can compete in a slower price environment and if prices do bounce back , that we are the preferred investment jurisdiction and that we are picking up more than our fair share.” quote:“I would like to see us getting more of the North American investment,” said McMillan, who was previously Saskatchewan’s energy and resources minister. “But as technology has unlocked shale, and now Mexico has opened up to private sector investment, we need to sharpen our pencils.” hahahah loving looooool You guys know who Canada exports most of its oil to right? https://www.asiapacific.ca/blog/meeting-asias-needs-what-energy-does-canada-export-asia quote:the U.S. has consistently been the principal destination for Canada’s energy, accounting for an average of 93.7% of our energy exports over the same period. However, due to the shale oil and gas revolution and decreasing U.S. demand, Canadian-based energy producers must consider a future where the U.S.’s dominant position in Canada’s energy export portfolio may diminish. Enter Asia.
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Omg the loving dinosaur tears in the comments of this Financial Post article:Some loving shitheel on Facebook posted:Perfect time for a brilliant politician like Notley to ratchet up regulations and impose a Gaia loving Carbon Tax. Tim Boyle posted:One can just imagine the response if these 100,000 jobs were being lost in Ontario or Quebec. Politicians would be tripping over themselves with pledges of 10s of $billions to save as many of those jobs as possible and cushion the rest. Anything to save a vital canadian industry. But not the oil industry and certainly not the oil sands industry. Rather in the midst of the collapse the Alberta government has elected to scavenge what is left of the industry's carcass with a 20% increased tax on their income (practically not a problem since few of them are making any money); a tripling of the "price" they pay for spewing carbon; along with a threat to increase the government's rental charges i.e. royalties. (both hugh problems that if put into full effect will send 100s of $billions in investment to other jurisdictions) In fairness we haven't heard what the federal government has in store for the industry but do know that they have already nixed one of the tidewater pipelines with a capricious decision to ban oil tanker traffic in northern B.C. waters thus thwarting and circumventing regulatory approval which had already been granted. Moreover, they have displayed only indifference and obsequious acceptance to Pres. Obama's nixing of the southern route; and perhaps most disturbingly, have shown little support for the two remaining prospects - Energy East and the expansion of Morgan Kinder. Yet, PMT will no doubt wonder why people in Alberta and Saskatchewan continue to mistrust the Liberal brand. Here's Tim's law firm profile: http://www.spierharben.com/Spier_Harben_Law/Timothy_Boyle.html Claude DeRoche posted:Time for big oil to lay off TFW!
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I am so so so loving glad my job is unionized and benefits enough from cheap gas to offset the business drop. Rigger fucknuggets looking to take my job can get hosed.
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BC has a strong robust economy due to all the growth being focused in the FIRE and construction sectors.
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Kreez posted:Should have started a craft brewery instead, she could have put all the pinecones she wanted in her products with no obligation to list ingredients, let alone nutritional information. No pesky federal food safety inspections either!
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Alberta is still fundamentally strong, with the lowest taxes in Canada. These low taxes will help Alberta pay back its loans by
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eXXon posted:Alberta is still fundamentally strong, with the lowest taxes in Canada. These low taxes will help Alberta pay back its loans by lol http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories/alberta-at-mounting-risk-of-something-even-worse/article27799540/ quote:The housing market has taken it on the chin, too.
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I don't understand how real estate sale, finance and home construction isn't taking up the economic slack in Alberta. There must be some sort of second level dependency or externality that just wasn't accounted for, or something.
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Baronjutter posted:She's selling through supermarket chains now though. I saw it for something like twelve bucks a pint at Rootcellar once. Even by local standards that's a lot for (admittedly pretty good) ice cream. I was surprised at the time that there wasn't much labelling on the product, either. I hope she works something out, she always seemed very nice at the farmers market and I feel like most of the customers who want her really weird flavours just go to her directly anyway. I doubt the save on foods was ordering a lot of pine cone crunch to begin with.
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Baronjutter posted:Wow I feel less bad buying those god drat $8 a pint coconut ice-creams. See? Look at the intangible value her unlabeled ice cream is providing.
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ocrumsprug posted:I don't understand how real estate sale, finance and home construction isn't taking up the economic slack in Alberta. There must be some sort of second level dependency or externality that just wasn't accounted for, or something. Alberta has a giant sucking sound right now as billions of dollars are removed from the economy.
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