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Freakus posted:I don't actually aim for perfect stability - I prefer to play my rulers as I think they would act. But given no negative consequences to stripping titles, why wouldn't an arbitrary zealot strip the titles of all heathens in their realm? I always like RPing emotionally unstable vikings. Especially right after making a custom Empire full of Norse Kings that cuck and do most poo poo on their own hand. It can get very freaky very fast.
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This is slightly on the technical side, but I just finished watching http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020882/Emergent-Stories-in-Crusader-Kings and he mentioned that CKII has tens of thousands of AI agents that all plot simultaneously- do you guys have any idea how granular most of their activity is? I barely notice anything not directly connected to my guy, so I never thought about how much things might be moving in other kingdoms.
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I gotta say though my favorite change so far besides making tribals not a horrible grind to upgrade every holding is letting female rulers lead their own armies. It's a shame I think they still can't take War Focus and duel people but whatever. It makes getting a daughter as an heir not as much of a pain in the rear end. It's also cool when you see, like, the 18 year old Queen of France lead her army against the Ummayads. It feels like some stuff that would have happened in real life.
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Can nomads not join Great Holy Wars or something? I reformed the Tengri faith, and my new vassal high priest quickly declared a Great Holy War, but it will not let me join in.
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Dec 18, 2015 23:25
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GSD posted:Can nomads not join Great Holy Wars or something? I reformed the Tengri faith, and my new vassal high priest quickly declared a Great Holy War, but it will not let me join in.
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Dec 18, 2015 23:34
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I joined the Zorastrian Great Holy war fine. Are you already at war with the target through something else? Entirely at peace. I suppose I have truce with the target, maybe that is it? I wasn't aware it checked for that, but I guess it makes more sense than other options.
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Dec 18, 2015 23:41
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Coalitions sounds fantastic, I just hope we don't lose out on alt-history shenanigans for "historical accuracy" by making the empire of Lollard Britannia functionally impossible to achieve. I hope "fear of gigantic crushing army" balances infamy a bit. I don't want to be ganged up by every catholic in earshot, the holy wars are bad enough. I mean, I can play an earlier version, but coalitions (and fix to tedious warscore games maybe???) is absolutely needed, so I don't want to miss out.
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Don't worry should be fine. Only time I've seen coalitions go bonkers was because of Temujin went crazy after all my tweaks to his AI. So as long as you don't throw around 100k and eat half a continent in 10-20 years you should be fine.
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Omi no Kami posted:This is slightly on the technical side, but I just finished watching http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020882/Emergent-Stories-in-Crusader-Kings and he mentioned that CKII has tens of thousands of AI agents that all plot simultaneously- do you guys have any idea how granular most of their activity is? I barely notice anything not directly connected to my guy, so I never thought about how much things might be moving in other kingdoms. I'm going to guess that it's fairly coarse. There also really isn't a lot that needs to be crunched and you can really prune that sort of thing something fierce. You also wouldn't need to recalculate absolutely everything every single game day. Calculating tens of thousands of peoples' plots every single tick would probably bog down a computer but if you only did some of them it's less of a big deal. Plus a ton of it would not need to be recalculated all the time anyway. Dude already has a plot? Doesn't need another; let him sit on that for a year or two. Each tick only calculate 10% of everybody and then rotate to another 10% next time or something. If something major changes then force recalcs for whatever is affected by that. So like if one guy dies and four people are plotting to murder him then force them to recalc their plotting. That forces only four people which is drops in the ocean. For example; I have no idea how they do it but I've done some calculation-heavy things and once you start bogging down a processor you start thinking "what can I not do?" Really it's amazing how efficient you can make code once you figure out what all you can eliminate. In the case of tends of thousands of people you can eliminate a ton of stuff. You absolutely would not need to calculate every possible relation between all of them ever.
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yeah but this is PDS which apparently forgot they made every single Greek character check whether they could blind and/or castrate every single person they know every single day or however that went. was hilarious, though.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Really it's amazing how efficient you can make code once you figure out what all you can eliminate. In the case of tends of thousands of people you can eliminate a ton of stuff. You absolutely would not need to calculate every possible relation between all of them ever. That's what I was asking after, because of its connection to my (non-CKII) thing- I've been playing with it this afternoon to see how much active plotting people do, and as far as I can tell the only major non-military AI that occurs with any regularity behind the player's back is the stuff driving marriages/succession, which is pretty easy to tabulate.
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The Way of Life expansion is on sale for pretty drat cheap. What do you guys make of it? Worth it? It's $2.50, but at first glance I can't tell if it adds a layer of fun, or just a layer of confusion and further obsfucation.
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Propaganda Machine posted:The Way of Life expansion is on sale for pretty drat cheap. What do you guys make of it? Worth it? It's $2.50, but at first glance I can't tell if it adds a layer of fun, or just a layer of confusion and further obsfucation. Way of Life is the best DLC since Old Gods, grab it for sure. It's the only DLC that puts more effort into adding RP elements and it's drat fun.
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Propaganda Machine posted:The Way of Life expansion is on sale for pretty drat cheap. What do you guys make of it? Worth it? It's $2.50, but at first glance I can't tell if it adds a layer of fun, or just a layer of confusion and further obsfucation. With the sole exception of excessive cucking, Way of Life is like 100% cool & good, and honestly the cucking is pretty hilarious anyway and causes all kinds of shenanigans.
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Mister Adequate posted:With the sole exception of excessive cucking, Way of Life is like 100% cool & good, and honestly the cucking is pretty hilarious anyway For the first hour or so. After you get tired of it there are mods to settle it down.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:14
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AI cucking comes free in a patch anyway, i think 
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As somebody who got it after the patch, the cucking isn't too bad, but I don't play too much.
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I like the cucking because it often gives me a reason to throw somebody in jail (and then the oubliette) when I want them out of the picture.
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I love that one of the loading screens warns "carefully check the traits of your wife". It's like a giant sing saying "IF YOUR WIFE IS LUSTFUL AND DECEITFUL, PREPARE TO BE CUCKED MERCILESSLY!".
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=573078666&searchtext= Take a bug, make it a mod. Huh.
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So I haven't played in a few months, what's a good easy start to get accustomed to the game again? (not ireland please) I have every DLC.
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Vikings.
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^^ Tribal vikings are a bit tricky, though it's easy mode once you reformed and became feudal.TorakFade posted:So I haven't played in a few months, what's a good easy start to get accustomed to the game again? (not ireland please) Byzantine Empire? Umayyad Sultanate? Charlemagne himself? If you want to play a horde, Khazaria or Bulgaria are easy starts.
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TorakFade posted:So I haven't played in a few months, what's a good easy start to get accustomed to the game again? (not ireland please) The Khazars are awesome in Old Gods start if you want someone nomadic to try. They are pretty easy to play too. They are also the only playable Jews in the entire game, so that makes them extremely interesting too.
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BillBear posted:They are also the only playable Jews in the entire game, so that makes them extremely interesting too. Semien is there too  Khazars are about a hundred times stronger though.
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Siemen games are one of the biggest crapshoots but goddamn when you luck out its great
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verbal enema posted:Siemen games are one of the biggest crapshoots but goddamn when you luck out its great I like to cheese things a bit and play Charlemagne Abyssinia. First thing I do is nail down Semien as a tributary Jew preserve. Once I've devoured most the miaphysite lands in Abyssinia I conquer Semien and use it to convert. I usually leave the Gideons tigriana(?) and later vassalize them though.
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Do you guys park your primary heir at your court until he takes over or do you land him? I've been giving mine a duchal title immediately at birth so he can generate some prestige, but more often than not he winds up squandering his carefully curated breeding and education by the time he comes of age by becoming a syphilitic and maimed idiot married to a wife with low states.
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moot the hopple posted:Do you guys park your primary heir at your court until he takes over or do you land him? I've been giving mine a duchal title immediately at birth so he can generate some prestige, but more often than not he winds up squandering his carefully curated breeding and education by the time he comes of age by becoming a syphilitic and maimed idiot married to a wife with low states. I keep them in my court until they've reached adulthood and I've married them to a good wife, then I land them. If you don't do that they'll end up educated by somebody loving stupid and then they'll choose a wife with garbage genetics. Even this doesn't always work. I once set up a son as the leader of a vassal republic and married him to the genius daughter of the Byzantine Basileus first. Dude was loving set. But no, instead he gets caught loving his sister three times before having his perfect wife murdered so he could enjoy his new sisterwife. Honky Dong Country fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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moot the hopple posted:Do you guys park your primary heir at your court until he takes over or do you land him? I've been giving mine a duchal title immediately at birth so he can generate some prestige, but more often than not he winds up squandering his carefully curated breeding and education by the time he comes of age by becoming a syphilitic and maimed idiot married to a wife with low states. Unless it can be in no way avoided or it's critical to setting up a massive inheritance, having a landed heir is just asking for big, big trouble. He will gently caress around and get STDs, he'll get in fights and maim himself if not kill himself, he'll drop Ambitious for Content and Patient for Arbitrary, and he'll marry some lowborn imbecile just because she was the first available. The AI doesn't make optimal decisions, but it seems that your heir in particular is subject to going full brain damage.
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think of all the times you snickered after marrying off a genetic time bomb to the 2nd-in-line to the Byzantine throne WHY WOULD YOU TRUST THE AI TO HANDLE YOUR HEIR "hahaha, a Lisping, Weak Detached Priest, sure, here you go"
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You also have to remember that if you're alive for long enough, your incompetent mangled heir will also be responsible for their heir, and you can get even worse situations. Sending heirs off is one great way to start working on wrecking your blob, though.
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Fun fact that I just discovered about nomads: Population only counts provinces that have empty capital holdings. Even if it has six other empty holding slots, a county with anything in its capital gets counted as 0 available population. On the one hand, this is useful for invasions since I don't need to actually give up any of those delightful provinces, on the other it does rather ruin my tendency to keep every county ready to hand to a vassal as needed.
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I keep wondering if I should try de-steppeifying the steppe. I have the money by now to do it with most of it that I control (Though taking over Khazaria would be a hassle by this point), just building temples in duchies, then throwing a chump in the them, giving them the duchy, then releasing. I could even probs still do it after the nerf, as I have around 19K banked at this point from pillage squads and parking my stuff on the silk road while cutting it off from the others. Taking on the rest of the clans might be a hassle, but then again, I could just hire all the mercs in the world and throw them at the problem. I did do it once, with the "change govtype to tribal" thing, but it wasn't quite as amusing as doing it legit, by hand, as the nomads themselves. Would create a shitload of Zorastrian theocracies though, which does dreadfully amuse me. Do rogue theocracies even do anything?
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I keep wondering if I should try de-steppeifying the steppe. I have the money by now to do it with most of it that I control (Though taking over Khazaria would be a hassle by this point), just building temples in duchies, then throwing a chump in the them, giving them the duchy, then releasing. I could even probs still do it after the nerf, as I have around 19K banked at this point from pillage squads and parking my stuff on the silk road while cutting it off from the others.
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Cool thing: My current ruler is 84 years old--he's the oldest person in the known world--and still going strong in the 61st year of his reign. Between his 19 Diplomacy and gigantic Long Reign bonus most of his vassals love him thrice over. So I'm taking the opportunity to revoke like four duchies from Ambitious people who will be obvious problems for his heir, and just holding onto them; even with the tyranny and too many duchies and too many elector titles penalties, it's still not enough to gently caress up the (Elective) succession or create any dangerous factions. When he finally croaks his heir can hand out the duchy titles to Content people and start out well established. Shame the heir's already 47 and will probably only reign for a few years. I could probably skip him and make his son my successor, but eh, RP reasons. Guy's waited for decades for his old man to finally shuffle off, just seems cruel to go "nope sorry, you're too old now so you'll never be emperor".
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In my current Mercia game father's have outlived their sons enough that grandson succession is a firm tradition.
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Torrannor posted:^^ Tribal vikings are a bit tricky, though it's easy mode once you reformed and became feudal. Hey guys thanks for the suggestions but I disregarded them all. I really wanted to get back in a feudal christian situation and avoid messing with tribes/hordes, but not as a big world power, so I chose 1066 Tuscany; protection from the outside world via HRE, and internally it seems much more powerful than any neighbour. I seem to remember Matilda used to have a husband and 2 sons in 1066, but now she's the only living member of her dynasty  so I grabbed a Croatian genius duke with superstats as my husband, selected the family focus and I'm about to start churning out babies. The next 16 years are going to be tense  My demesne is at 7/5 though and of course I have no family members to assign the extra land to, will this bite me in the rear end? Should I just get over it and assign the extra land to some random content courtier? Also what's a good way to start my inevitable expansion to ultimately form the Kingdom of Italy? Currently I have assigned my genius 19 diplomacy husband as chancellor and he's fabricating a claim on Bologna, it seems a very juicy and undefended county.
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