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More happens those girls' dorm than happens to me in a day (or, to keep the high school theme alive, more than what would happen in a week when I was a teenager). More dialog complaints, somewhat: The characters will be vague about whatever material they reference. For example, Kate's video gets talked about a lot, but you never really get to know exactly what happened. Victoria and her friends talk about the video as though it were some raunchy sextape, despite Kate just kissing a few guys, maybe. I guess the vagueness lets you fill in the details and lets you fill it in worse than it could be. However, the opposite is true. I can't help but think the video is Kate making out with a couple of guys, not all that scandalous, while Dana is enjoying sexual intercourse mere hours after dumping her last sexually active partner. As for The October Country, Ray Bradbury is my favorite author, and I love the book. Since I am very familiar with the collection, hearing Thanks-a-Maximilian and Kate fall back on platitudes just annoys me. I can't help but feel the developers picked a book at random.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 22:04 |
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Seeing as how we know that the Principal is in the Westcott's pocket, it really does stand to reason that the police are too. This is really a tough choice to make, but I feel like finding more proof was the better option. Telling the cops would make Kate feel better, but if it backfires, Nathan might really hurt Kate and/or Max. Plus, if we find more proof, maybe we can sneak into Nathan's house and find some hard evidence, like a stash of his creepy drugs or some weirdo list of girls. Nathan seems like the type to keep a log of the girls he's drugged. Plus with our time powers, it's not like anyone could catch us.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 22:12 |
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It frustrates me that choosing "LOOK FOR PROOF" leads to Max saying a bunch of vague and discouraging platitudes, rather than actually saying she'll go and look for proof herself. On the bright side, the rewind mechanic means that the "vague dialogue option" irritation is much more palatable than in other games.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 23:26 |
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I voted to tell the police, if only because Kate is in a pretty fragile place and likely needs as many friends as she can get right now. Max kind of seems to blow her off a lot in the other option.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 00:08 |
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Nerdcrushing aside, I am kinda regretting being a thorn in David's side now. We might have been a believable backup for Kate before, but now we pissed off the school security twice and claimed ownership of marijuana. This stinks! We'd be doing more harm than good backing up Kate now. Still votin to call the police though. I wonder if it would have made any difference to fly under the radar. The principal already seemed to have it in for us. Guess I figured out what to do in my play through.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 02:31 |
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Bluh. It's pretty clear we're not going to nail Nathan without some kind of huge smoking gun (heh), but the way Max acts in telling her to wait is super wishy-washy and not friendlykind at all. I'm assuming it's a binary choice and you can't tell Kate you'll back her up AND then later on you can look for evidence. Max being super passive is starting to grate on me.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 02:32 |
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I like that someone was committed enough to making Kate's life miserable to register a domain just for that one video.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 02:43 |
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that website actually exists btw
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 03:01 |
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I vote calling the police on
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 03:59 |
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The police option will work poorly because they are probably owned by Westcotts just like the school principal was. At this point the plan needs to be find the evidence ourselves and then report it to a non corrupt non small town police authority like the state police or FBI. Unfortunately our protagonist is merely a teen girl with limited time powers and not an FBI special agent so our options are limited for the time being.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 04:35 |
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Both ways are fraught with peril: Calling the Police might solve the problem, however during the time that they investigate to get proof Nathan is probably going to get another lecture from his parents and we've seen what he did when he got one from the principle. Mitigating factor: Max has time powers so she has a reasonable chance of being able to deal with Nathan's stuff. Complication: Reasonable does not mean guarantee (sneak attack, sneak attack with drugs, using the Vortex Club to get at Max(Victoria notwithstanding.) This is likely going to be a martyr style path if the episode name is anything to hint about. This choice assumes faith in the Police against the sociopolitical situation Nathan stands in. Finding Proof ourselves might also solve the problem in a way that simply telling the police wouldn't: Kate has had a reputation built up about her and thus provides Nathan a monkey wrench to throw into any investigation. Also one of their likely contacts is going to be David who: has eyes and suspicions on Kate but even more so has eyes and a confession from Max that she was carrying marijuana. That's where the peril lies with this choice, Kate only has her completely honest recollections versus her fraudulent reputation while Max has to find proof and then have it weighed against her previous actions in order for Nathan to get his comeuppance. Plus she has to deal with Nathan to find the proof in the first place. This choice assumes faith in Max and the social network she's built to back it up versus Nathan's sociopolitical situation as well as Max's previous choices. Thus, Call the Police is the more positive and sure action to take. Either way, we're going to be dealing with Nathan direct or indirectly. Which could be a peril in it's own right but there's too many variables as it is dangit teens make everything overly complicated. Mr. Highway posted:More dialog complaints, somewhat: The characters will be vague about whatever material they reference. For example, Kate's video gets talked about a lot, but you never really get to know exactly what happened. Victoria and her friends talk about the video as though it were some raunchy sextape, despite Kate just kissing a few guys, maybe. I guess the vagueness lets you fill in the details and lets you fill it in worse than it could be. However, the opposite is true. I can't help but think the video is Kate making out with a couple of guys, not all that scandalous, while Dana is enjoying sexual intercourse mere hours after dumping her last sexually active partner.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 04:57 |
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I don't really mind a lot of the vagueness around the content of the video, it's clear that a girl who is known for being a sexual prude and champion of abstinence suddenly changed her ways and went some manner of hog wild on video. Something is very Wrong about that and it makes it incredibly saucy content to gossip teens. Again I am extremely enjoying the speculation and thoughts on the choice and consequences. This is a really loving hard adult decision our character has to make and I really like seeing ya'll weigh out the pros and cons. Jolyne Cujoh posted:that website actually exists btw Oh yeah, feel free to check http://katesvid.com/, as they did put up a real site and didn't let the porn bots claim it. It looks like Victoria has since had a change of heart and pulled it down in the last two years. it's a joke page
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 05:42 |
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now I'll never know what the tongue record was
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 05:47 |
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Considering everything, we should go to the police as well. If anything, the fact that one of Nathan's cronies actually left a very threatening message in the room of someone who is very well known for photographic documentation suggests that even if the Prescotts can avoid danger on the whole, Nathan himself isn't smart enough for the money. Plus, we have time control powers, a girlfriend with a truck, and family out of state. If the police are totally corrupt, we can get the hell out of dodge. More importantly, giving Kate some strength is more important for the moment.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 06:32 |
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Kaubocks posted:now I'll never know what the tongue record was Kate was djing with her mouth, it was surreal
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 06:38 |
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This is a tough one. She should absolutely go to the police, given that she was clearly drugged and sexually assaulted. But we've been shown again and again that authority doesn't believe people who don't have scads of money, and Nathan... that boy is REALLY unstable, and has a gun. Some proof would be nice... but on the other hand, Kate really needs support right now. I wish Max could combine some choices... support Kate, let her know we have her back and are going to personally investigate, as for at least a day to do so, and THEN go to the police. But since that's not an option... I don't know. I wonder if the principle will be more inclined to believe we're serious if we actually file a report on the kid? Furthermore... maybe the police will be more likely to believe us since we already reported to the principle? You know what? gently caress it. We have time travel powers, which includes short range teleportation. If Nathan comes at us with the gun for this, we should be fine. Go To The Police.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 07:22 |
I really don't want to go all nerdspergrageFLAAARGH here but Bradbury didn't write a single sci-fi story in his life. He's in a wierd place between fantasy, horror and poetry but I can't think of any science anywhere in there. edit: And I still stand by how we should've mocked the gently caress out of Victoria. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 12:22 |
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anilEhilated posted:I really don't want to go all nerdspergrageFLAAARGH here but Bradbury didn't write a single sci-fi story in his life. He's in a wierd place between fantasy, horror and poetry but I can't think of any science anywhere in there. While there wasn't a lot of science involved, at least Fahrenheit 451s setting is futuristic enough to qualify as sci-fi. Or are you arguing that only realistic stuff counts and ridiuclous unscientific stuff like that or Star Wars is not real sci-fi? Because if that's your opinion I wouldn't know how to argue.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 12:41 |
Pretty much. Science fiction - at least to me - is a way of approaching the subject that's at least somewhat grounded in science, Bradbury shows you a rocket and tells you it's a rocket and he's done with it. Don't get me wrong, I love him as an author, but science it ain't. And no, anything set in the future doesn't automatically count. Or Star Wars. I mean, it's all a long time ago in a galaxy far away...
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 12:54 |
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Sci-fi as a genre encompasses both hard sci-fi and soft sci-fi. Bradbury is very much on the soft end of the spectrum. Also, having seen the authorities in action so far, the best advice I can give Kate is ONLY TRUST YOUR FISTS POLICE WILL NEVER HELP YOU
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 13:45 |
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anilEhilated posted:**+*+Pretty much. Science fiction - at least to me - is a way of approaching the subject that's at least somewhat grounded in science, Bradbury shows you a rocket and tells you it's a rocket and he's done with it. Don't get me wrong, I love him as an author, but science it ain't. Counterpoint: Sci Fi, as a genre, has always been far more focused on society and culture and it's potential variations than technology, with regular detours into personal experience.+ Any science fiction that takes the time to tell you how the rocket works but never shows you what the rocket means to either civilization or some specific individual isn't sci-fi, it's just a speculative tech manual! Brabdury's "The Rocket" is 100% undeniably science fiction. This particular time travel story we're reading in LiS? Maybe not so much. But the real reason he's mentioned is becaue of "A Sound of Thunder", a very definite sci-fi time travel story that popularized the term "butterfly effect". GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Dec 21, 2015 |
# ? Dec 21, 2015 14:17 |
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That intro with Alt-J is one of my favorite tracks, if not the favorite, from the soundtrack. But there are so many good tracks to choose from! Also jeez, more like Auntie HARSH! The thing where the choices are morally grey is one of the best things with Life is Strange in my opinion. Each of them have their own pros and cons and I'm having a good time reading the thread's reasonings too EDIT: Also Panzer, thank you for the content warnings. The subjects are not a big deal for me but it's super good that you're doing this and I like that more LP:ers (e.g. voiceofdog in LISA, Voidburger in Silent Hill 2) have started doing this. Keep it up! Or is it Sputnik fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Dec 21, 2015 |
# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:48 |
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For the secret poll, why not both? Time travel powers!
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:59 |
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Air is lava! posted:While there wasn't a lot of science involved, at least Fahrenheit 451s setting is futuristic enough to qualify as sci-fi. Or are you arguing that only realistic stuff counts and ridiuclous unscientific stuff like that or Star Wars is not real sci-fi? Because if that's your opinion I wouldn't know how to argue. Paraphrasing Bradbury's own words, the only sci-fi story he wrote was Fahrenheit 451, and that doesn't count because it actually happened. I would say Bradbury's work, even the more sci-fi material like The Martian Chronicles, falls under speculative fiction.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:41 |
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Time control powers existing are one thing but Max, as an artsy teenager, not using them to have an extra couple of minutes in bed has broken my suspension of disbelief. So much for characterisation! Also voted for looking for proof, it's in no way the right option but when you're not going to have the favour of any authority (no principal, no police, not enough people coming forward claiming Nathan does this sort of thing) backing you up then you're just putting Kate through more harsh public and/or intense scrutiny without the means to substantiate her claim. If there's something to show to her family at least to get them to lay off then even if it has to end there then that's better than nothing.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 20:20 |
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After seeing what happened with the principal, my faith in the adults in this game are absolutely shook. We should just use our time powers to dunk Nathan and be done with it.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 20:30 |
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namesake posted:Time control powers existing are one thing but Max, as an artsy teenager, not using them to have an extra couple of minutes in bed has broken my suspension of disbelief. So much for characterisation! Seriously, if I had time powers they'd be my new snooze button.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 20:39 |
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namesake posted:Time control powers existing are one thing but Max, as an artsy teenager, not using them to have an extra couple of minutes in bed has broken my suspension of disbelief. So much for characterisation! Haha! This is actually a line she says if you lay in the bed for a while. It takes long enough I didn't really want to just leave her laying there for like two more minutes of the episode to trigger it but I'll grab a screenshot later.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 20:42 |
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Go to the police. Holy poo poo if I had time powers I'd probably find a super nifty way of straight up killing Nathan Prescott without it actually being my fault in any way. Dude needs serious loving help. And uh, while Kate's at it, why doesn't Max go to the police too because someone broke into her room and made threats against her?
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 22:16 |
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I worry this game is going to pull that trope where literally every single adult is incompetent and ignore direct murder threats, and things like date rape drugs or a syringe puncture wound on the neck are absolutely impossible to detect
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 22:32 |
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Danaru posted:I worry this game is going to pull that trope where literally every single adult is incompetent and ignore direct murder threats, and things like date rape drugs or a syringe puncture wound on the neck are absolutely impossible to detect Technically if they ignore that what they're really saying is "we're in the Prescott's pockets, you should watch yourselves from now on you hipster troublemakers." The only incompetence I've seen is David when dealing with Chloe and that's more 'rocky family' territory. He's certainly crazy thorough with his paranoia.
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# ? Dec 22, 2015 01:28 |
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KAUBOCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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# ? Dec 22, 2015 01:35 |
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Panzer Skank posted:Haha! This is actually a line she says if you lay in the bed for a while. It takes long enough I didn't really want to just leave her laying there for like two more minutes of the episode to trigger it but I'll grab a screenshot later. Here I grabbed some screens, she is Extremely Teen: edit: one other little thing I missed! This flyer is in two places, the school hallway and in the girl's dorm: The one in the bottom left about the missing tablet, it's a little hard to read so I have the text pulled up. Well, further down the school hallway you can also find this note: Rude !!! Also also just for Kaubocks, I went to see why the Prices would need to buy toilet paper so bad. Guessing it's a dev joke because there isn't a drat bit of toilet paper in their bathroom, or even a holder for it lmao Panzer Skank fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Panzer Skank posted:
Otter-ly adorable swim coach ad.
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# ? Dec 22, 2015 03:57 |
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Coffeehitler posted:Otter-ly adorable swim coach ad. Yes, I hope it makes anotter appearance
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 08:13 |
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Ugh, this choice. WAY TO BE NON-SUPPORTIVE THERE MAX. Like, couldn't go the whole "we need more evidence cause the cops are going to need a lot of proof to crack down on the Prescott's favourite son. So I'll do some snooping then we'll totally drop the hammer on his rear end. Also maybe take a photo of that poo poo before you clean it up? Since that's kinda a direct threat. And if we reminded David that Nathan had a gun, and one of his guns is missing, his paranoia would totally get him on side. Grumble grumble bloody teens. Also - Game is on sale on Steam buy it for Christmas! Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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Panzer Skank posted:Also also just for Kaubocks, I went to see why the Prices would need to buy toilet paper so bad. I wouldn't be so hard on them-- this seems to be a concept the Price family has been struggling to grasp for a while
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 23:19 |
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Maybe, Mr K Bocks, you're just a terrible teacher.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 23:22 |
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Kaubocks posted:I wouldn't be so hard on them-- this seems to be a concept the Price family has been struggling to grasp for a while I fuckin sat for like ten minutes looking for it and then when I found it I was Mad
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