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moths posted:I'm probably missing something obvious, but Chaos doesn't get daemons in 30k? Word Bearers can ally with them.
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TheChirurgeon posted:That's pretty unlikely, given the Ravenguard emblem on the knee/elbow on the left side of the model Oh sweet. Colour me psyched.
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Dec 21, 2015 22:11
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Aww man, that's a bummer. I guess the Daemonic stuff didn't come in until late-era Heresy. Word Bearers are cool, but they're not metallic purple and rock and roll noise gun cool.
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It seems like they'll eventually get to mid / late heresy content. I was looking at the Visions of Heresy picture book and by the end the traitors looked pretty much like modern day chaos marines and several of the primarchs were full on demons. How many years did the heresy last?
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Dec 21, 2015 23:07
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TheChirurgeon posted:Looks like Corax is up next. Forgeworld is doing a daily jigsaw reveal, but already messed it up I should probably paint Perturabo then.
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Dec 21, 2015 23:14
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DeadGame posted:It seems like they'll eventually get to mid / late heresy content. I was looking at the Visions of Heresy picture book and by the end the traitors looked pretty much like modern day chaos marines and several of the primarchs were full on demons. How many years did the heresy last? 7
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Dec 22, 2015 00:08
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I guess the solution is to paint them as Emperor's Children anyway and just wait for the Slaanesh version of the Daemonkin list. I'm much more interested in painting / modeling than actually playing at this point for a number of reasons.
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Dec 22, 2015 00:20
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So for Secret Santa at work, I pulled my Heresy buddy. Somebody's getting a badass for Christmas.
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Dec 22, 2015 00:36
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A question about the Orbital Assault Rite of War: Every unit purchased needs a way of deep striking, but only units in dedicated transports have to start in their dedicated transport, correct? So if I use a Storm Eagle to be able to take a 19-strong unit of tactical marines with Maun, that tac blob doesn't have to start in the Storm Eagle, because it's not a dedicated transport. They can do the Raven Guard thing and infiltrate on foot. Do I have that right?
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Dec 23, 2015 18:38
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Just discovered a new reason to hate the hands-on-guns thing: now if I want to paint the weapons separately, there's a parade of horribles to match hand-painted gauntlets to airbrushed arms and bodies (I play Sons of Horus).
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Dec 23, 2015 22:40
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Strike Captain Alvarex Maun 140 Primus Medicae: Void Shield Harness; artificer armour; bolt pistol; power weapon; melta bombs; refractor field; jump pack 185 14 Tactical Space Marines: chainswords; nuncio-vox; legion vexilla; + 1 Tactical Sergeant 250 14 Tactical Space Marines: chainswords; legion vexilla; + 1 Tactical Sergeant 240 4 Tactical Support Marines: meltaguns; + 1 Tactical Support Sergeant 175 • Drop Pod 35 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: augury scanner 50 • Apothecary: augury scanner 50 9 Veteran Space Marines: legion vexilla; 2× plasma gun; + 1 Veteran Sergeant 240 • Drop Pod 35 Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought: 2 Kheres pattern assault cannons; havoc launcher 195 9 Veteran Space Marines: legion vexilla; 2× plasma gun; + 1 Veteran Sergeant 240 • Drop Pod 35 6 Dark Furies: + 1 Chooser of the Slain (melta bombs) 240 Land Speeder Squadron • Land Speeder: volkite culverin; graviton gun 75 • Land Speeder: volkite culverin; graviton gun 75 • Land Speeder: volkite culverin; graviton gun 75 • Land Speeder: volkite culverin; graviton gun 75 Predator Strike Squadron • Predator: lascannon sponsons; machine spirit 140 Corvus Corax: Rite of War (Decapitation Strike) 450 3.000 points Would this work, or do I need more scoring units?
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Dec 24, 2015 06:36
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Can't link it due to crappy Internet being odd but corax pic is out. I'll say straight up I think their hair looks p dumb as its like fulgrims updo
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Dec 24, 2015 10:55
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Hair straight down. People complain of too much wax. Wind through the hair. People complain of whipping hair. You just cant win.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:09
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Could use a quick set of eyes on an Emperor's Children list I've been working on for the last couple of weeks. I'll be preparing to purchase some fine  resin products soon and I'd really like to not have to pick up more than is absolutely necessary to make my 1850 list work, with maybe 150-200 points in sideboard models in case of funky game types like Zone Mortalis, Apoc or Stronghold Assault. My gaming group is talking about doing more of the thematic and way less of the competitive style 30/40k gaming.quote:+++ Emp Children (1850pts) +++ Praetor goes with the Palatine Blades squad in their Rhino. 15 Footslogging tactical marines+apothecary for the core troops with 2 squads of 9 veterans+apothecary in a rhino with a meltagun to chase objectives. Mortis-Contemptor with 2x Kheres for lots of rending and a Fire Raptor for anti-flyer and a Las Tarantula for armor piercing and drawing some fire early on. If this looks good, the pickup orders for me beyond the Calth box set, will be: 3x Mk1 legion rhinos 1x Palatine Blades squad ~10x Phoenix Spear weapon upgrades or proxies ~40 Emp Childrens' shoulderpad upgrades ~20 Emp Childrens' chestplate/helm upgrades 1x Legion Vexilla Upgrades 1x Fire Raptor Gunship 1x Tarantula Sentry Gun (TL Las) 1x Javelin Attack Speeder (swap-in unit) 4-5 man Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron (swap-in unit) Nathaniel Garro (Praetor swap if I wanted to go for loyalists) If there are any glaring holes in the list, let me know.
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Dec 24, 2015 13:01
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Your Palatines really want a transport with an assault ramp, if you can.
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Dec 24, 2015 13:27
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DJ Dizzy posted:Hair straight down. People complain of too much wax. Wind through the hair. People complain of whipping hair. You just cant win. It doesn't make sense for the hair to be whipping backward like that if he just touched down. The only way it'd be streaming behind him is in mid flight, and the impacting foot contradicts that. It should really be swaying forward, I think.
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Dec 24, 2015 15:09
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His hair is probably being tossed around in jump-pack wash. It's a silly thing to let bother you, especially given how many "standing in a cyclone" figures there already are with wind blowing in contrary directions.
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Dec 24, 2015 15:15
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I think the pose is supposed to capture the moment where he just touches down. He is still moving down and forward. You can see the rocks breaking under his left foot. I think the hair is fine . Not my favorite of the primarch models; but certainly not the worst.
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Dec 24, 2015 15:47
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Lol those wings are going to get snapped so quickly.
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Dec 24, 2015 16:03
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They're also going to be pointing in 18 different directions.
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Dec 24, 2015 16:42
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ijyt posted:Lol those wings are going to get snapped so quickly. Corax is the first-ever dual kit primarch! Rip out the wings and you are now fielding Rambo Survivor Corax.
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Dec 24, 2015 16:49
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DJ Dizzy posted:Hair straight down. People complain of too much wax. Wind through the hair. People complain of whipping hair. You just cant win. Rock the Angron locks: cables that electrify your brain and turn you into a howling rage-beast. Give no fucks about hair anymore.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:06
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Hixson posted:I think the pose is supposed to capture the moment where he just touches down. He is still moving down and forward. You can see the rocks breaking under his left foot. I think the hair is fine . I think Mortarion is the worst looking of the bunch, what does everybody else think? The pose is just awkward and static, and not in a cool way where it's obviously propaganda like Horus or Roboute.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:32
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I don't really care for the giant pile of junk Perturabo is standing on. Mortarion DOES look a bit static, and the proportions seem off for his legs, but I haven't seen the model in person, so I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt as a trick of perspective, much like Perturabo I guess. The rest of the models for the primarchs all look pretty cool to me.
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Mango Polo posted:Your Palatines really want a transport with an assault ramp, if you can. I know, but a 250+ point land raider is just going to make that tough. I was trying to find a better alternative, even if I had to ally in something for a transport.
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Dec 24, 2015 20:23
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I like how Corax is just shooting some mother fucker dead as he lands.
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Dec 24, 2015 20:33
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He's landing, forward momentum, hair is going to blow upward because of the direction of his descent. It's frankly more attention to detail than most models in the GW/FW range get when it comes to dynamic poses of this sort. While he's not my fave Primarch sculpt, I can appreciate it for what it's trying to do and for the most part it does it well and this is when it's completely unpainted. The only thing about him I question is where the gently caress is his crazy whip? panascope posted:I think Mortarion is the worst looking of the bunch, what does everybody else think? The pose is just awkward and static, and not in a cool way where it's obviously propaganda like Horus or Roboute. Lorgar was the worst of the bunch and I don't even mind his model that much. Morty feels appropriately badass upon closer inspection IMHO.
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AndyElusive posted:The only thing about him I question is where the gently caress is his crazy whip? I think it's because the books and artwork can never agree what the hell Corax uses to fight with, so they just call it "Panoply of the Raven Lord." He's usually twin lightning claws, but sometimes he's shredding people with his razor-sharp wings, burning stuff to death with his jetpack exhaust, sometimes he has one or two power whips, his tabletop stats make him dual-wield pistols, etc.
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panascope posted:I think Mortarion is the worst looking of the bunch, what does everybody else think? The pose is just awkward and static, and not in a cool way where it's obviously propaganda like Horus or Roboute. Agreed. Mortarion just looks... uncomfortable in his armor with that pose. No grace at all, just clunky. I don't like Roboute either. They could have done something more interesting to carry the statesman motif across. It doesn't help that I studied Greek/Roman statesmen so I guess I am bias. On the other hand I really like Perturabo except for his base (which is an easy fix, so I am not complaining). The Night Haunter, Sevatar, and Lorgar are also some of my favorites.
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koreban posted:I know, but a 250+ point land raider is just going to make that tough. I was trying to find a better alternative, even if I had to ally in something for a transport. Are Caestus 30k?
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A Christmas Miracle! Babby's first airbrushing attempts:
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BULBASAUR posted:You bet quote:+++ Emp Children (1835pts) +++ How's that then? Dropped fire raptor for Caestus, which can carry the palatine blade squad and praetor.
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Dec 24, 2015 23:43
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AndyElusive posted:He's landing, forward momentum, hair is going to blow upward because of the direction of his descent. It's frankly more attention to detail than most models in the GW/FW range get when it comes to dynamic poses of this sort. Forward momentum means his hair would be forward, not back, because his hair would decelerate more slowly than his body (which is attached to his foot, which is clearly decelerating because it is plowing through debris). I liked the crazy jet wash explanation better.
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Ok ya let's go with jetwash. Either way it's not out of this world for his gloriously genetically engineered locks to flow with the wind like they are. Also what's with all the hate for Peters base? He's standing on the wreckage of a Knight. That's so awesome. 
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Mortarion's pose sucks because a scythe is an awful, awkward weapon for actual combat.
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koreban posted:How's that then? Dropped fire raptor for Caestus, which can carry the palatine blade squad and praetor. You should strongly consider the ECs ROW which will let you outflank the Caestus on whatever turn you want, basically guaranteeing a turn 3 charge and mitigating one of the biggest problems with flier transports. I think I wrote up an example of a list for you a few weeks ago.
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BULBASAUR posted:You should strongly consider the ECs ROW which will let you outflank the Caestus on whatever turn you want, basically guaranteeing a turn 3 charge and mitigating one of the biggest problems with flier transports. I think I wrote up an example of a list for you a few weeks ago. I looked into it, having the ability to bring veteran squads as troops in rhinos with apothecaries was a strong motivator over having min squad of 10 tacticals that wouln't be able to attach an apothecary and come in by rhino. e: for a legion that *wants* to get into melee, having the extra attack per marine is also a benefit over the legion RoW. I think there's a place for playing around with the legion RoW in a list, but having scoring, fearless veterans with an apothecary in a rhino is just too good to pass up. koreban fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Dec 25, 2015 |
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Germ posted:A question about the Orbital Assault Rite of War: Every unit purchased needs a way of deep striking, but only units in dedicated transports have to start in their dedicated transport, correct? So if I use a Storm Eagle to be able to take a 19-strong unit of tactical marines with Maun, that tac blob doesn't have to start in the Storm Eagle, because it's not a dedicated transport. They can do the Raven Guard thing and infiltrate on foot. Lost in the shuffle and never answered. Help!
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