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PeaceDiner
Mar 24, 2013

Kurtofan posted:

I don't get it, it's the same loving design except on a smaller scale

The sex symbols on his hat and inside his coat were removed, which is probably what they're "complaining" about.

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

PeaceDiner posted:

The sex symbols on his hat and inside his coat were removed, which is probably what they're "complaining" about.

... Now this might just me being reasonable here, but could they have just not wanted to deal with the detail of multiple sex symbols every time Jotaro is facing forward and moving?

PeaceDiner
Mar 24, 2013

Onmi posted:

... Now this might just me being reasonable here, but could they have just not wanted to deal with the detail of multiple sex symbols every time Jotaro is facing forward and moving?

That's the reasonable thing to assume, yes, but I feel like the people complaining probably aren't being too reasonable.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

I've started playing 7th Stand User and it's super fun but I'm having an awful technical issue with it

the game runs fine, but it won't take my directional key inputs well. the accept and cancel buttons work fine, but right from the main menu it takes a fraction of my directional inputs. I've tried the FAQ and its solutions didn't help me so I thought I'd ask here to see if anyone encountered something similar

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

setafd posted:

I've started playing 7th Stand User and it's super fun but I'm having an awful technical issue with it

the game runs fine, but it won't take my directional key inputs well. the accept and cancel buttons work fine, but right from the main menu it takes a fraction of my directional inputs. I've tried the FAQ and its solutions didn't help me so I thought I'd ask here to see if anyone encountered something similar

I'm on my second run through and neither my laptop or PC have trouble with movements, I've heard that if you have a controller plugged in, it can cause issues.

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


BaDandy posted:

If anyone doubted before that "SJWs" or "tumblrites" are the new boogeyman scare words people just throw around for no reason at this point, well....

Doxx David Productions until they put the vest on 4taro

And those symbols aren't on his initial appearance outfit, so we don't really know that they've been outright omitted.

Okuyasu Nijimura fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Dec 22, 2015

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Onmi posted:

I'm on my second run through and neither my laptop or PC have trouble with movements, I've heard that if you have a controller plugged in, it can cause issues.

nothing's plugged in, so I know it's not that

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


The hat they're using.



And what he's wearing when he first meets Koichi.

Dolphin Kujo confirmed

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


I want that vest and turtleneck on jotaro more than anyone on this planet but I'm gonna really lose my poo poo hardcore if I don't get the weird hip pouches in all their glory. Hip pouches and big boy backpack Jotaro.

Where's the tweet about the dolphin balls spilling out of his pockets when you need it?

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

I watched the whole story mode of EoH. It was more basic than I would have liked but it's not like the game's an RPG. I get why it had to be straightforward. But the main thing everyone wanted was the character interactions and it both did a good job and dropped the ball on that part.

Story summary:
(This is from memory and I had to look up a fair amount of kanji, so it might not be 100% accurate. The language used was easy for me to understand with the exception of Joshuu and sometimes Josuke though, so I'm fairly confident.)

Basically, instead of finding Diego from another dimension, the constantly spinning Valentine finds a dimension here DIO won and upgraded his stand. The World Over Heaven's ability is to 「rewrite」 「truth」, though I could be interpreting it wrong since I had to look up the former word in Japanese. Essentially he uses it to revive dead people (including twice for Kira (who doesn't understand why but the two versions aren't terribly bothered by it) and once for the base world version of himself (during Phantom Blood.) He also can control anyone with his "Eyes of Heaven" ability which creates this dark mist that takes them over. The mist ability apparently comes out of his hands though, which is important. Anyway, DIO fixes his infinite rotation problem He doesn't take over Valentine but takes his corpse parts (I think? Either that or the corpse parts leave on their own. DIO doesn't keep them and is looking through space and time for them. I don't recall.) and gets him to work under him. Valentine complies but plans to use the main characters to defeat him, since at the end of the day he just wants the best for America and DIO conquering everything is kinda bad for that.

At some point before the story Speedwagon gains a corpse part and a voice in his head (Jesus? I don't know) tells him what to do. The corpse parts end up creating these light cracks that send people to other areas in the same era, other eras, and in two cases another dimension. He arrives in the Stardust Crusaders era right after DIO's been killed and Jotaro has burned his book. The SC cast is at the airport but right before Polnareff can board his plane the dead crusaders arrive, taken over by the mist. N'Doul, who isn't corrupted, also appears and mentions after being defeated that he's working for "that man" before escaping in a flash of light with the others minus Kakyoin, who Speedwagon arrives in time to save with his corpse part. The corpse part chooses Jotaro, and they travel to Vento Aureo just after Diavolo is defeated. For the record over the course of the story the cast takes entirely too long to realize that "that man" is just DIO again, despite most of the villains that aren't corrupted being his henchmen from SC. Enya even points it out.

So over the course of the story they travel to the different parts' eras and recruit their respective casts and rescue the corrupted people with the parts. Jotaro usually makes a reluctant Joseph explain the situation, which really bothers him when he has to explain it to Josuke. Polnareff finds the turtle (with its original soul, not his) in the VA chapter so they end up fitting the cast in there. Jotaro keeps it in his pocket and "get in the turtle" confuses pretty much everyone they meet. You never see inside the turtle but towards the end it's mentioned that it's getting crowded. Each part's Jojo gets a corpse part and once they have 6 of them Jonathan and Josuke's begin to glow and open a light crack that sends them to SBR and Jojolion respectively.

Once they all have their corpse parts they reach Heaven DIO's dimension and get their asses kicked, with The World Over Heaven negating the effects of the golden rotation and Gold Experience Requiem. Star Platinum manages to punch fast enough to get past his guard and hit him in the head but he heals the damage using Over Heaven and steals/absorbs almost all of their corpse parts. Jotaro managed to hold on to his (I think it had to do with his resolve or something but I can't quite remember so take that with a grain of salt). The part teleports them away from DIO's dimension and they all regroup.

They eventually run into Valentine who drops some exposition and demonstrates that two objects from different dimensions disintegrate when they're near. Long story short they end up finding out the secret of his stand, with Jotaro ending up at the site of his final battle with DIO and finding his bracelets there. DIO fights and beats Valentine, Pucci and DIO discuss heaven and how DIO plans to use the souls of the main cast as the 36 sinners.

When you get to the final area everyone but Jotaro and Jolyne get absorbed and you fight him. Afterwards Jotaro realizes that DIO needs to use his hands to activate his ability and throws base-world DIO's huge bracelets at him, wrecking his arms. The end of the fight ends up being a mirror of the end of the last SC fight. Star Platinum ends up being able to use Over Heaven to heal himself since they're the same type of stand and he ends up defeating DIO more or less the same way as before. The universe returns to normal with the exception of the formerly dead companions surviving. Also there's a final scene that's the start of Diamond is Unbreakable except with baby Jolyne being there with Jotaro.

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

Interesting stuff in no particular order:

- Joseph doesn't recognize Speedwagon at first because he's young. He also doesn't recognize himself at first, with Old Joseph thinking "Who's this sweaty brat?" and Young Joseph thinking "Who's this dirty old man?"

- Unlike most of the other eras that take place either after or towards the end of their stories, Battle Tendency takes place during Lisa Lisa's training. The Pillar Men arrive looking for the red stone of Aja. Old Joseph manages to bluff pretty well, but after each line you hear his inner thoughts which are much closer to Young Joseph's attitude. He also reprimands his younger self for thinking that he's going to win against the Pillar Men no matter what because if he has an older self that means he survived.

- The VA cast calls Polnareff "Polnareff the turtle" which really confuses him. The cast then talks amongst themselves and realize that if it's his younger self then they shouldn't tell him he ends up turning into a turtle. They then tell him that they mistook him for someone else, and Narancia tells him he definitely won't turn into a turtle.

- Jonathan uses hamon to heal Slow Dancer for Johnny (he arrives right after the Valentine fight) but says that Johnny's wounds are too bad to treat with it.

- After restoring Joshuu from corruption he gets up in part 4 Josuke's face. His reaction is to have Crazy Diamond punch him in the face and knock him out. Josuke 8 asks what he's doing. Josuke 4 apparently thought that the corruption wasn't completely gone yet because of how Joshuu was acting. Part 8 Josuke thinks for a second and says something along the lines of "Oh, that's true." instead of correcting him.

- Joseph is incredibly awkward around Morioh since he recognizes it. Jotaro picks up on it and Joseph weasels his way out of it until they run into Josuke. Josuke recognizes the two of them but is surprised at "macho gramps." Jotaro tells Joseph to explain their situation as usual but he's really, really against doing it which makes Jotaro suspicious.

- While Jonathan and Josuke are in the parallel world, the rest of the cast waits around in Morioh. Jolyne goes for a walk and finds D'Arby, who wins her soul in a coin toss with a 2-headed coin. Jotaro wins it back in a cheating-poker minigame. You play it again later in the story for the secret of DIO's stand, but this time D'Arby doesn't have all the information on it, instead telling him that a man named Pucci would be the only one to know, as he acts as DIO's helper.

- Dio Brando and Diego Brando are working together but aren't fond of each other. It's interesting to see them talk because of how different they are, with Diego speaking normally and Dio constantly acting larger-than-life. It's almost like they have two different voices.

- Alternate Diego never shows up.

-Valentine knows about Gold Experience Requiem and mentions that Heaven DIO's power is similar.

- Corrupted Gyro keeps calling Johnny a terrorist.

- Jotaro doesn't recognize the SC villains that he didn't fight such as Mariah and Petshop.

- Jolyne admires Jotaro and insists on fighting along side him.

- Josuke thinks young Jotaro is kinda scary after he shouts at them.

- The Jojolion era takes place after Shakedown Road, so Josuke knows about the corpse.

- Kira Yoshikage (x 2) appears in the Jojolion world, and Josuke 8 is shocked when Josuke 4 says his name. He asks about himself but Kira doesn't answer. The Kiras both still just want a quiet life, and aren't trying to run into the heroes. They're just unlucky.

- Pucci impales himself on the same statue that impaled Dio in the Joestar mansion


Odd stuff:


- Jotaro doesn't really care about most of the other characters he meets aside from whether or not they're stand users. The exceptions are Jolyne who calls him dad and young Joseph who he still calls "old man" and thinks is way too noisy. He realizes who Jonathan is though.

- The fact that Giorno and Dio are related isn't brought up even once. One of DIO's end of battle quotes against (or with? I forget) Giorno has him saying he's never heard the name, so it can be assumed that he doesn't know. Giorno on the other hand has a picture of him in his wallet with his name on it, so what the gently caress?

- Caesar and Zeppeli don't acknowledge each other but they're only on screen together once, and it's as enemies.

- Unless I missed it, the two Josukes never tell each other their names. I guess it's just assumed that they told each other during the usual fade-to-black transition between Josuke explaining the situation doing to Jo2uke. Speedwagon calls him "Josuke with a hat"

- There's no interaction between Dio Brando and DIO. Diego and Dio are working together and mentioned that they agreed to work together and make decisions as equals, but I think they're only talking about the 2 of them, not Heaven DIO.

- Shouldn't Jonathan and DIO's body collide and disintegrate?

- DIO doesn't seem to care about Jonathan at all, and Jonathan doesn't comment about DIO much. At the end he leaves DIO to Jotaro because he thinks he has a better shot at beating him. When Pucci talks to DIO about absorbing the cast's souls he asks if it's really OK with him because "that guy" is one of them. I'm assuming he's talking about Jonathan but DIO doesn't give a poo poo.

- I believe when Jotaro meets Pucci (who has given up on his version of heaven by the way) in the Stone Ocean era, he says that it's technically the second time he's met Jotaro's 1988 self. Jotaro seems confused. So am I.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

quote:

- Jolyne admires Jotaro and insists on fighting along side him.

Hahaha, this is stupid

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

Baal posted:

Hahaha, this is stupid

Well, it's Jolyne from Cape Canaveral after she saw his memories and had a change of heart. That's where she ends up doing the same thing with oldtaro.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
That feels like a weird place to pull Jolyne from, but fair enough.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
DIO's body wouldn't be Jonathan anymore given that he'd have fully healed the scar if he won against the Joestars.

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

Baal posted:

That feels like a weird place to pull Jolyne from, but fair enough.

They picked weird places to pull the characters from. When you arrive there Jolyne and friends are looking for Pucci while C-Moon is loving up gravity. But when you go to part 4's Morioh, it's just some random time after the story ended. I have no idea when Phantom Blood's supposed to be.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Hitlersaurus Christ posted:

They picked weird places to pull the characters from. When you arrive there Jolyne and friends are looking for Pucci while C-Moon is loving up gravity. But when you go to part 4's Morioh, it's just some random time after the story ended. I have no idea when Phantom Blood's supposed to be.

After the events of Windknight's Lot?

BaDandy
Apr 3, 2013

"This taste...

is the taste of a liar!"
Dio and Diego sounding different doesn't really surprise me, I've heard Koyasu voice act for more subdued but still kind of intense roles (Tatsuya Suou from Persona 2 is a good example of this) so I knew he could make himself not sound like a giant ham if he tried.

You're right about Jonathan and DIO not caring about each other all that much being weird. Also wtf is Pucci talking about meeting 1988 Jotaro??? What?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
From what I understand, Jotaro is able to resist The World Over Heaven because Star Platinum and The World Over Heaven are still the same kind of Stand. Somehow.

I love how Part 3 Jotaro's ability to bullshit new powers to win is still a thing in this game.
:allears:

Also, Foo Fighters doesn't show up in-game. :smith:

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

BaDandy posted:

You're right about Jonathan and DIO not caring about each other all that much being weird. Also wtf is Pucci talking about meeting 1988 Jotaro??? What?
Pucci saw Jotaro while he was leaving DIO's manor after he was quickly pushed out the back window by DIO when DIO realized that he couldn't spend the whole day reading books in bed with his new boyfriend and the Crusaders had finally made it to him.

StalkofWheat
Oct 10, 2012

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Also, Foo Fighters doesn't show up in-game. :smith:

Why the hell does Annasui keep getting into games over FF?!

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

StalkofWheat posted:

Why the hell does Annasui keep getting into games over FF?!

Because he's plowing Jolyne, next question?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Annasui is a guy and FF is....a...girl?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Onmi posted:

Because he's plowing Jolyne, next question?

I would hope not, because that would just make part 6 worse

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Also, Foo Fighters doesn't show up in-game. :smith:
In a game with two Jotaros, two Puccis, and five DIO, this is the biggest crime of them all.

I feel like instead of just bringing Jotaro out to end the endboss because he's immune, they should have had Gappy remove the concept of truth or something crazy.

Rohan Kishibe
Oct 29, 2011

Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.

Baal posted:

I would hope not, because that would just make part 6 worse

Don't worry, both of them are horrifically murdered before ever getting laid.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I mean, they're together in the next world, so...

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Prison Warden posted:

Don't worry, both of them are horrifically murdered before ever getting laid.

Phew, thank god


Butt Ghost posted:

I mean, they're together in the next world, so...

That's Irina and Anakiss, not Jolyne and Annasui

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
I can't believe best girl Foo Fighters failed to be in another Jojo game.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Baal posted:

That's Irina and Anakiss, not Jolyne and Annasui
Their love cannot be separated between incarnations. It's gravity.

There will always be constants in the Jojo universe. There will always be a Dio. Jonathan will always lose his head. Rohan Kishibe will never be late on a deadline. Annasui will always plow Jolyne.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Baal posted:

That's Irina and Anakiss, not Jolyne and Annasui
Hitchhiking Weather Report is still there cockblock him though, that is a universal constant.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
this posted twice im an idiot

StalkofWheat
Oct 10, 2012
Annasui would have been a better character if Araki kept him a girl. And wasn't an actual unrepentant murderer who literally disassembled his girlfriend.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

The only thing I remember Annasui actually doing is complaining about Mickey Mouse, and that's probably all I ever need to remember.

Adlai Stevenson
Mar 4, 2010

Making me ashamed to feel the way that I do

StalkofWheat posted:

Annasui would have been a better character if Araki kept him a girl. And wasn't an actual unrepentant murderer who literally disassembled his girlfriend.

I'd be totally on board with either or both of these things if they were actually followed up on. But turning him into a dude that isn't interesting is both the most confusing and least fun thing that could've happened.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Annasui has a lot of great lines but he's a bland/bad character with a stand he never really uses in an interesting fashion.

Araki should've kept it to the core three girls and Weather Report.

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Bad Seafood posted:

I can't believe best girl Foo Fighters failed to be in another Jojo game.

There's always DLC I guess...

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Onmi posted:

Because he's plowing Jolyne, next question?

Hermes/Jolyne should have been canon, actually

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
...



Bad Seafood posted:

Annasui has a lot of great lines but he's a bland/bad character with a stand he never really uses in an interesting fashion.

Araki should've kept it to the core three girls and Weather Report.

yeah, beyond annasui being a poo poo character he somehow also makes me wonder why he's even necessary. he could be removed w/ the needed small changes here and there and i don't think the story would suffer.

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Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
All of Annasui's best lines you could just give to Hermes.

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