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Goku | 202 | 7.09% | |
Vegeta | 279 | 9.79% | |
Krillin | 208 | 7.30% | |
Piccolo or his nameks | 212 | 7.44% | |
Gohan or Cool Gohan | 135 | 4.74% | |
Yamcha | 90 | 3.16% | |
Tien | 120 | 4.21% | |
Muten Roshi | 89 | 3.12% | |
Tao Pai Pai | 71 | 2.49% | |
Frieza | 69 | 2.42% | |
Cell or an android | 86 | 3.02% | |
Buu | 62 | 2.18% | |
Hercule "Mark" Satan | 327 | 11.48% | |
Videl | 90 | 3.16% | |
Bulma | 104 | 3.65% | |
Yajirobe | 99 | 3.47% | |
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy | 68 | 2.39% | |
King kai or another kai | 53 | 1.86% | |
Chi-Chi | 83 | 2.91% | |
Goten | 43 | 1.51% | |
Trunks or Cool Trunks | 112 | 3.93% | |
Bardock | 48 | 1.68% | |
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) | 41 | 1.44% | |
Uub | 42 | 1.47% | |
Oolong | 90 | 3.16% | |
Zamasu | 26 | 0.91% | |
Total: | 1326 votes |
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I can understand bad animation, that is when they're moving, but when most of the static shots are derp as gently caress it's like what the hell? Is it that hard for a professional company to draw still pictures that don't look completely stupid? That being said, I enjoyed the episode. Not long now until the nipple man.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 05:51 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 15:58 |
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Baal posted:Man, they really padded out that Buu and Gohan fight in the anime and the Buu and Vegito one Buu vs. Vegito is the best fight in DBZ history.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 05:56 |
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Goku/Krillin/Gohan/Yajirobe vs. Vegeta is still pretty top tier. I wish they'd announce the dub for Buu Kai already so I can finally watch the last bit of DBZ
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 06:12 |
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alcharagia posted:Buu vs. Vegito is the best fight in DBZ history. actually *adjusts glasses* it's piccolo jr vs. goku
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 06:37 |
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Goku vs Frieza you contrarian chumps
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 06:40 |
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Aurora posted:Goku/Krillin/Gohan/Yajirobe vs. Vegeta is still pretty top tier. you should watch the uncut dub, as it is the Buu Saga in all its glory (waiting eagerly for both the Buu Kai and English Super announcements)
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 06:41 |
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Ruggington posted:actually *adjusts glasses* it's piccolo jr vs. goku That's not DBZ!
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 06:45 |
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Remember when Buu fed himself to one of those killer dudes until he exploded, that was sick
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 06:55 |
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Baal posted:Remember when Buu fed himself to one of those killer dudes until he exploded, that was sick remember when he got mad a girl didn't want to date him
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 06:59 |
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Lol yeah
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 07:00 |
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Aurora posted:Goku/Krillin/Gohan/Yajirobe vs. Vegeta is still pretty top tier. I forgot most of this fight, so when I watched Kai it was pretty amazing. I remembered Yajirobe cutting off Vegeta's tail, but I didn't remember him coming in again to stop him from fleeing. I also didn't remember Gohan actually fighting with him, it was great.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 07:09 |
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Momomo posted:I forgot most of this fight, so when I watched Kai it was pretty amazing. I remembered Yajirobe cutting off Vegeta's tail, but I didn't remember him coming in again to stop him from fleeing. I also didn't remember Gohan actually fighting with him, it was great. Was the Gohan stuff filler? I know the fight they had after Namek was
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 10:01 |
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The best fight in Dragon Ball is the recreation of when Cell got chumped by Satan. e: V I guess? Feel free to PM me if you don't like something I say or do or whatever. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Dec 23, 2015 |
# ? Dec 23, 2015 10:51 |
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Dude, is this your gimmick in every anime thread?
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 10:54 |
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did you guys know Satan is the strongest rofl
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 11:21 |
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SirKibbles posted:Was the Gohan stuff filler? I know the fight they had after Namek was Nope.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 12:03 |
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Gohan vs Freeza when Goku was either playing dead/setting up the wishes is filler though right? Freeza being able to power down, spar with Gohan, and instantly pump up his muscles Goku arrives again just reeks of filler.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 12:50 |
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In It For The Tank posted:I do not understand the love for Lord Slug at all in this thread. The most memorable part about the film other than the False Super Saiyan was the dub soundtrack. I wouldn't say I personally "love" it (and I don't know how it's perceived overall in the DB community) but it was a decent movie with nothing particularly offensive in it. Darko posted:You don't like "Yo! Son Goku?" Slice of life Dragon Ball is the best, and that was pretty much entirely slice of life, and also segued into the current tone of the series (everyone was in character, unlike those movies). I didn't realize that movie was so popular. I was almost sure that everyone hated it. Anyway, I personally didn't care for it because we're introduced to a character that was never even remotely hinted at up until that point (Tarble) and two baddies who served under Freeza that happened to be as strong as him as well? RoF makes the appearance of these two even more bizarre given the fact that Sherbet was bragging about how Tagoma and that other guy were as strong as Zarbon and Dodoria.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 12:56 |
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Zedd posted:Gohan vs Freeza when Goku was either playing dead/setting up the wishes is filler though right? Yeah that never happened. Once Freeza powered up 100%, the fight lasted like 8 pages.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 13:15 |
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Yo! Son Goku's premise is no weirder than any other movie
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 14:28 |
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did you know freeza has a brother
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 14:58 |
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The whole "Toriyama likes to subvert by having the arc villain look small and unassuming" thing kinda loses credence when Frieza ends up going super swole at the end anyway.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:04 |
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sharktamer posted:The whole "Toriyama likes to subvert by having the arc villain look small and unassuming" thing kinda loses credence when Frieza ends up going super swole at the end anyway. Not really. It's a recurring theme that when someone bulks up like that they're about to get immensely owned (see also: power weighted Cell, Ultra SSJ Trunks, SSJ3 Goku); it's a desperate last ditch effort to win by literally puffing themselves up and in Frieza's (and SSJ3 Goku's) case the fights end when it turns out they were burning through their reserves at unsustainable rates to keep it up. The 'slim and understated' rule actually holds pretty well when you look at characters at their peak in the narrative; Saiyan Saga Vegeta, Final Form Frieza, Super Perfect Cell, Kid Buu, there's a pretty consistent pattern It's also why Broly's such a comically stupid character, he literally turned DBZ villain hubris into his superpower
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:35 |
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Then why is it that when Vegeta went ape he nearly killed the main character and was pretty much unstoppable until someone did something about his tail?
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:46 |
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The buff stuff looks cooler(I'm kind of sad Toriyama invented the bishounen line) but at the same time Freeza was loving intimidating as hell in his first final form. He was just so sinister and creepy. Hard to ignore the result.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:46 |
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Also Freeza would've gotten owned regardless of him going buff or not, if anything he put up a better fight against Goku by going buff and Super Buu was legitimately the most powerful and threatening villain the series has had until RoF rolled around. The only person who got wrecked hard after going big was Cell and he was already fighting a losing battle at that point.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:48 |
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Baal posted:Then why is it that when Vegeta went ape he nearly killed the main character and was pretty much unstoppable until someone did something about his tail? I don't think Great Ape stuff works the same way. It also was phased out before most of the "get really buff to win" strategies and their consequences happened Nobody in the Saiyan Saga era was really fast enough to capitalize on any potential slowness that came from Great Ape
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:50 |
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Baal posted:Then why is it that when Vegeta went ape he nearly killed the main character and was pretty much unstoppable until someone did something about his tail? That was also the last time the ability was ever seen, considering all everything past follows a broadly similar pattern I'd suggest Toriyama's ideas on how to visualise 'power' changed
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:50 |
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Was Kid Buu actually stronger than Super Buu or was it just that Goku and Vegeta were both beaten up as gently caress and Kid Buu still posed enough of a threat?
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:52 |
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Aurora posted:Was Kid Buu actually stronger than Super Buu ? Ding Ding Ding! Congratulation, you said the secret phrase. Your prize is a ten page derail of people screaming at each other about powerlevels.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:55 |
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Aurora posted:I don't think Great Ape stuff works the same way. It also was phased out before most of the "get really buff to win" strategies and their consequences happened A Steampunk Gent posted:That was also the last time the ability was ever seen, considering all everything past follows a broadly similar pattern I'd suggest Toriyama's ideas on how to visualise 'power' changed I mean, that's true, but it's still a big part of the series and it also falls under that line of reasoning that "Get bigger and more muscles" is very much a part of the series. Just because it doesn't fall in line with how later villains handle it doesn't negate it being the same concept. I'm not saying it falls to that all the time, but to say that like someone bulking up gets them owned when in more than one case it extends a fight and throws something into the villains favor is kind of wrong. SS3 Goku is especially a case where that's not true because he legit dominates p much every fight he's SS3 in even the Kid Buu fight, but in that case he can't outright kill him because insane regeneration. Aurora posted:Was Kid Buu actually stronger than Super Buu or was it just that Goku and Vegeta were both beaten up as gently caress and Kid Buu still posed enough of a threat? It's weird where it falls, but Super Buu is definitely the strongest form as even if he was about the same power as Kid Buu, he's somewhat intelligent enough to make use of his powers to their utmost ability, while Kid Buu wantonly destroys everything. It's a touchy silly subject, but I think it's easy enough to fall to the conclusion that Super Buu is a far more threatening villain on multiple levels than Kid Buu, but Kid Buu is still insanely dangerous.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 15:57 |
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Baal posted:Also Freeza would've gotten owned regardless of him going buff or not, if anything he put up a better fight against Goku by going buff and Super Buu was legitimately the most powerful and threatening villain the series has had until RoF rolled around. The only person who got wrecked hard after going big was Cell and he was already fighting a losing battle at that point. With Frieza I agree, that's why I said it was a desperate last ditch attempt to stay in the game and why it ended up with him burning himself out. Super Buu is an interesting one as his design communicates his personality and mental state moreso than his raw power. We see him change vastly as he absorbs and jettisons different people and his final, original form is the most dangerous not because of raw power but because he's lost any shred of humanity and reverted to a primordial avatar of destruction And as I said, similar visual rules end up applying for the protagonists too, notably with USSJ Trunks and SSJ3 Goku's goofy tryhard forms; Cell flat out says to Trunks he hosed himself by going for muscle mass at the expense of agility and Goku burns through the rest of his day on Earth half hour after he goes SSJ3 Finally, the same visual themes continue into the new Toriyama-overseen BoG era, SSG Goku actively loses muscle mass when he gains the form and Beerus and Whis, the two most powerful beings in the universe have none to speak of. Again, I'd say it's a pretty consistent pattern
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:04 |
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Aurora posted:Was Kid Buu actually stronger than Super Buu?
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:07 |
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I'd say it's more likely that it's on a case to case to basis. The newer DBZ stuff definitely does have that kind of svelte look for its power ups now, but the older stuff does not really fall under that consistently. I'd definitely say in like Cell and Trunks' case it would be true, because it's dramatically appropriate for that to be the scenario when Cell is fighting him and it for it to be an ironic call back when Cell tries to do it later. But I'd also say that like... Vegeta and Freeza are too damning to actually give it credence.Zedd posted:Doesn't matter because Broly beats him anyway. His power is maximum. Imagine if Kid Buu absorbed Broly, he'd be more powerful than Beerus
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:09 |
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Aurora posted:Was Kid Buu actually stronger than Super Buu or was it just that Goku and Vegeta were both beaten up as gently caress and Kid Buu still posed enough of a threat? Goku didn't want to fight Super Buu unless he fused with Vegeta, yet he was confident he would win against Kid Buu if he managed to get to 100%.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:15 |
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Even with Super Buu the strongest versions of him have him looking noticeably slimmer than his initial appearance.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:38 |
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Only because Majin Buu is fat. I don't disagree about Toriyama's intentions, though. It was one of the notable flaws in BoG, Beerus just wasn't very scary because he's so rail thin and sickly looking. Even Kid Buu, the other skinniest villain, was pretty frightening ways, but Beerus didn't hit the same mark. (still a pretty decent movie though)
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:42 |
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Pureauthor posted:Even with Super Buu the strongest versions of him have him looking noticeably slimmer than his initial appearance. Not really? I mean he's the same body type he's just got a shirt now.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:43 |
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They look pretty similar to me, really.
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 16:51 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 15:58 |
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Gotenks-Buu is the best one. I hated how big the head-tail got by the end. Was that his pseud-SSJ3 hair?
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# ? Dec 23, 2015 17:23 |