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Doc Hawkins posted:I finally remembered who all the psychotic talk about thal-skulls and melonheads reminded me of: Szukalski! So this guy's giant folder of yeti rape fanart became a prized collector's item? There's hope for goons yet.
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GunnerJ posted:Well, this is why you don't let philosophy students with Viking blood in their veins and a half-baked political agenda get access (somehow??) to warships capable of out-running and out-gunning the worlds' professional navies (again, somehow??????), I guess Tomorrow Never Dies really wasn't a very good film.
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Darth Walrus posted:So this guy's giant folder of yeti rape fanart became a prized collector's item? Also highly recommended by the Church of the SubGenius (for the aesthetic).
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GunnerJ posted:But on the surface, they can square the circle by saying they were forced to pay for all these things so they are justified in taking them when offered. social security isn't a trust fund or a savings account, it's like a pension in that your benefits are defined by your past contributions but what you get back is currently being paid for by someone else. it's extremely similar to just using general fund taxes on welfare. since most people are only on welfare for a short time, and pay taxes before, usually during, and after they're on welfare, there's no way to deliniate who is the worthy welfare recipient and who is the unworthy welfare recipient. eveyrone pays into it, that's the point of taxes there's a weird and unjustifiable double standard hidden in that argument you're pointing at, in that somehow ayn rand's use of welfare money to sustain her in hard times is magically more moral and rational than when uh anyone else ever does it so if you take the "well i was forced to pay for it, so" escape hatch then you're really just demonstrating that you're willing to sell out your own ideology for whatever pension you can get from the government, which is actually an extremely objectivist thing to do. discard anything the second you don't need it, including the philosophy itself
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Yeah, that's what I mean about a surface justification. To be honest, I am not sure if they are actually fooling themselves but it's possible that they really seriously believe that when they do it, it's temporary and/or justified by their past unwilling contributions, unlike the vast hordes of professional dole surfers. You can see this in other places. Walter Block had a whole essay about why libertarian professors at public universities wouldn't be executed by the anarchocapitalist revolutionary tribunal. Both Ayn Rand and Triple-H have some mixed messages about "corporatism" or "crony capitalism." On the one hand, all the "bad rich people" would be hosed by a libertarian society where they have no government patronage. On the other hand, both see it as legitimate to have an agent in Washington to lobby to keep the government off your back as a kind of necessary evil.
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forkboy84 posted:"I wouldn't class myself as a Holocaust denier but *dramatic pause* where there's smoke there's fire." It was the pause, like he was going to say something deep & meaningful only to trot out the most inane cliché that really send me over the edge into fits of laughter. What a total fruit loop. Plus the dramatic reading for a really cowardly phrasing. "I'm totally not a Holocaust denier, but I also think they're onto something". It's basically saying "I'm a giant piece of poo poo but I'm too cowardly to own it".
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"I wouldn't say I deny the holocaust, I'm just saying you can't prove it." "I'm holocaust agnostic, I'm just asking questions."
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As I understand it the "smoke" is how pissed people get at holocaust-denying and nazi-sympathizing, with the implied "fire" being the demotist conspiracy to denigrate and eliminate the noble aryan-thal race. In essence, "people me not like hate thing, therefore...maybe thing true?!  "
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If you're going to go completely batshit, at least own it. David Icke is a lunatic, but at least he's a lunatic with the courage of his convictions.
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Guavanaut posted:And he ended up being right about a couple of things by sheer volume. Seeing as how they don't usually let the royal babies be seen until their carapace can take root he may be right about more things yet. e: David Icke is actually quite interesting since his beliefs have been taken on by a lot of white nationalists who believe that when he's talking about the world leaders actually being lizards in human form they think that he is naturally referring to the Jews. Even Icke has distanced himself from this by saying "No, when I say they're giant lizards in human skin suits I mean they are literally giant lizards in human skin suits" Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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Heavy D said 2012 was a mirage way back in 2010, 2016 is the real year of consciousness transformation
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Ddraig posted:Seeing as how they don't usually let the royal babies be seen until their carapace can take root he may be right about more things yet. I thought they had to wait until they could find a suitable human host to sew the starspawn into?
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Ddraig posted:Seeing as how they don't usually let the royal babies be seen until their carapace can take root he may be right about more things yet. He's made some remarks in his books that suggest he's being metaphorical, but in the sense of "they represent the evil and despair that we're all capable of, and we can defeat them by loving one another" sort of way. He's not exactly clear about it, though. But he's honestly not using them as a metaphor for Jewish people. Guavanaut posted:And he ended up being right about a couple of things by sheer volume. I think what happened with that was that people who knew what was going on/were survivors of it were willing to tell anyone who would listen, and conspiracy circles were happy to listen, because it can intersect with all sorts of conspiracies, so...
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I know you guys are talking about Hans Herman Hoppe but whenever I see HHH I imagine the WWE guy, possibly supported by The Libertarian, Kane, running in to hit someone with a sledgehammer or chokeslam.
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Nessus posted:I know you guys are talking about Hans Herman Hoppe but whenever I see HHH I imagine the WWE guy, possibly supported by The Libertarian, Kane, running in to hit someone with a sledgehammer or chokeslam. I think of serial killer H. H. Holmes. Not too irrelevant to threads about the psychology of neo-reactionaries or libertarians, really.
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Nessus posted:I know you guys are talking about Hans Herman Hoppe but whenever I see HHH I imagine the WWE guy, possibly supported by The Libertarian, Kane, running in to hit someone with a sledgehammer or chokeslam. I just think of Hubert H. Humphrey. Or HHhH, that historical novel about killing Heydrich.
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Or HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, to bring us back to weird Harry Potter fanfic.
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Nessus posted:I know you guys are talking about Hans Herman Hoppe but whenever I see HHH I imagine the WWE guy, possibly supported by The Libertarian, Kane, running in to hit someone with a sledgehammer or chokeslam. Opposed by Austin (avatar of the working class) and literally Mankind.
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The People's Champion was sadly corrupted by the promise of unlimited capitalistic wealth. Those $2k shirts were just too tempting. In the end, it was not religion, but the millionaire puppet master that influenced things.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycLMPS5MPX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW6P5yCGpKQ ramzpaul is one of the best 
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Race Realists posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycLMPS5MPX4 This guy is amazing.
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Can't believe I haven't seen this thread before now. Not just because I find these groups unendingly hilarious, but also because their existence at all is an indictment of the internet. People pay attention to crazy opinions and vile garbage, even ones they don't like, so you have several Professional Opinion Havers on YouTube who might as well be characters invented for a joke, saying the wrong thing, on purpose, for money. They're a real-life version of those monsters powered by attention in that Simpsons special. I have to constantly check if people I plan to cover in future videos aren't Poes. I threw out two videos completely because I became convinced they were a joke, they were too funny and sad to be unintentional. Aurini's perspective on life and religion has shifted so much in the years he's been active that he attains the even worse position of being someone who gave up on any kind of genuine position long ago. He parrots the views of whichever group he wants to get 'in' with. When Sargon etc. realised he was a shitstain (honor among idiots) and finally rejected him, he very suddenly shifted into a more religious viewpoint and started vying for the attentions of a more religious-y group that likes to try and turn MLP into conservative jesus-propaganda. I should go find that video, holy poo poo Like at this point he is unironically tweeting pictures of the satirically-over-religious things Flanders did on the Simpsons.
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Hbomberguy posted:Can't believe I haven't seen this thread before now. Not just because I find these groups unendingly hilarious, but also because their existence at all is an indictment of the internet. Don't forget the other thread, which is long but you will cackle with glee as you read it. Start from page one, it's long but completely rewarding. Your videos were also wonderfully inspirational for the RW article, and OH DEAR LORD THAT SWEDISH BODYBUILDER'S MANLY TIT FLEXES
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Hbomberguy you're my favourite person <3
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drilldo squirt posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD439RZ8LxQ I can't believe you didn't link this one. Jesus, listening to this guy is like being stuck at a family dinner table inbetween your creepy sexist uncle and your dorky virgin cousin. Also I feel like this comment from that video really sums up a lot of the Dark Enlightenment crap:  Here we've got someone who watches youtube videos about World of Warcraft yet yearns for a return to the imagined authenticity of the pre-modern world, and fixates on poorly misunderstood historical figures who are thought to embody those premodern values. Helsing fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Helsing posted:Here we've got someone who watches youtube videos about World of Warcraft yet yearns for a return to the imagined authenticity of the pre-modern world, and fixates on poorly misunderstood historical figures who are thought to embody those premodern values. You end up lost and looking for a third position.
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I have Ricthofen's War! It's fiddly garbage.
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Pope Guilty posted:I have Ricthofen's War! It's fiddly garbage. I'm going out on a limb here but I bet it confirms a lot of things he wants to be true.
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drilldo squirt posted:I'm going out on a limb here but I bet it confirms a lot of things he wants to be true. It's just a WWI dogfighting hexes and counters game.
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Helsing posted:Jesus, listening to this guy is like being stuck at a family dinner table inbetween your creepy sexist uncle and your dorky virgin cousin. pretty much, but Richthofen is an interesting figure and you have to have massive balls to fly and fight in one of those planes. they didnt have parachutes until the end of the war. the commentators knightly stuff is bullshit, i like Beethoven alot, hell i even find Bismark a fascinating and cunning figure in a historical sense. but this guy is a dumbshit. He probaly got most of it from /pol/ threads. Then again i am one of those sadbrains who likes /his/ board on 4chan. so i probaly can't judge. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Hbomberguy posted:Can't believe I haven't seen this thread before now. Not just because I find these groups unendingly hilarious, but also because their existence at all is an indictment of the internet. oh, retard kain. yeah i am not surprised. the dude was on on knife's edge with super scary right wing poo poo. when sargon told him to gently caress off because he was an insane scaming nutjob he went all in. I mean the dude was posing with skulls and screaming about how blacks were taking the women.
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Pope Guilty posted:It's just a WWI dogfighting hexes and counters game. I thought you were talking about that other guy, I'm sorry.
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after looking, i found a review of the new star wars movie by him. http://www.staresattheworld.com/201...f-a-broken-boy/ SPOILERS abound also he doesnt like finn or rey. and you learn in the comics that his favourite scifi/fantasy characters was Rorschach which explains alot.
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Alan Moore's primary inspiration for Rorschach was the lunatic objectivism of fellow Comics Guy Steve Ditko; for conservative creeps to enjoy the character is not entirely unlike their enjoying Steven Colbert. It's downright Borgesesque (Borgesian? Borgestic?).
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Doc Hawkins posted:Alan Moore's primary inspiration for Rorschach was the lunatic objectivism of fellow Comics Guy Steve Ditko; for conservative creeps to enjoy the character is not entirely unlike their enjoying Steven Colbert. It's downright Borgesesque (Borgesian? Borgestic?). Borgesesque? pretty much, Rorschach is an interesting somewhat tragic character but if you take him at face value and want that to be your role model. you may have issues. Then again i liked hosed up characters too (like tywin lannister, stannis barrathion, the galactic empire, the impirum of man other weird nerdy poo poo.) but then again i dont view them as role models to use for life choices. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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It's pretty easy to agree with Rorschach on your first read through Watchmen; it's something you have to read multiple times to really get different characters' takes on the situation, and Rorschach's very, well, comic-book view of the world is easy to comprehend: Ozymandias killed a ton of people, therefore he is Guilty/Evil/Scum. That said, if you go around declaring him your favorite character and talk about how right he is you pretty clearly haven't thought about Watchmen that critically!
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