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Stultus Maximus posted:Except the government spends many times more on welfare, medicare, medicaid, social security, and other anti-poverty programs than on NASA so it's not like eliminating space exploration and satellite launches will cure poverty. And as I mentioned, that's not the question here. Nobody I know of was or is saying that you should somehow tranfer NASA:s budget to Social Security, they were asking why the government couldn't find the will to end poverty and discrimination if they could find the will to do all sorts of other stuff, such as the space program. Now, this all riles up nerds because they think it's an attack on their beloved flashy science stuff, but maybe people should take a step back and think about what's actually being said here. In any case, happy holidays y'all. Have a carol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65C367hCVI
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Cerebral Bore posted:blaahhhh durrrr 
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Cerebral Bore posted:And as I mentioned, that's not the question here. Nobody I know of was or is saying that you should somehow tranfer NASA:s budget to Social Security, they were asking why the government couldn't find the will to end poverty and discrimination if they could find the will to do all sorts of other stuff, such as the space program. Now, this all riles up nerds because they think it's an attack on their beloved flashy science stuff, but maybe people should take a step back and think about what's actually being said here. Or maybe because launching a satellite into orbit is a physics problem with a universally accepted solution and solving poverty and discrimination is a massively complex social and cultural problem without an accepted solution? 
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Cerebral Bore posted:but maybe people should take a step back and think about what's actually being said here. So what IS being said here, Cerebral Bore? Why the discrepancy wrt space exploration but not all the more frivolous pursuits that yield no-or-less spin-off tech, or cost more? Elukka posted:Why are billions being spent on TV programs, movies, ice cream, highways, and a million other pursuits of varying importance that do not directly relate to feeding the poor or taking care of the sick? Why did you spend your money on the computer you posted this from instead of feeding the poor? Is it just that the companies that designed it spent so much money developing more powerful computers? https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html  lol whitey I guess
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 This cartoon has been pulled from the washington post. I guess for being offensive? But it's already out so pulling it is a useless gesture.
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KazigluBey posted:So what IS being said here, Cerebral Bore? Why the discrepancy wrt space exploration but not all the more frivolous pursuits that yield no-or-less spin-off tech, or cost more? What's being said is that the US government and society doesn't give two shits about the poor and the black. Also you seem to be under some strange impression that there is some discrepancy here and that space exploration is singled out for unfair amounts of criticism or something. This is, in fact, not true. There are very few people that have expressed much criticism of space exploration, and those who do have no power to stop it. Therefore it's kinda strange to see people lose their minds about somebody like Gil-Scott Heron being sorta irreverent towards the space program in a grand total of one of his songs, when most of what he made was poo poo like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ze8avZ9Q4I
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Cerebral Bore posted:What's being said is that the US government and society doesn't give two shits about the poor and the black. Also you seem to be under some strange impression that there is some discrepancy here and that space exploration is singled out for unfair amounts of criticism or something. This is, in fact, not true. There are very few people that have expressed much criticism of space exploration, and those who do have no power to stop it. Therefore it's kinda strange to see people lose their minds about somebody like Gil-Scott Heron being sorta irreverent towards the space program in a grand total of one of his songs, when most of what he made was poo poo like this: its because you talk like nasa is literally taking food out of hungry black childrens mouths when everybody knows the world has problems and people where just trying to express joy when mankind does something cool. you're not some messiah bringing this new knowledge to people, you just seem like an rear end whos trying to show he cares more than other people and has to prove it 
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Thank you for clarifying. I think the reaction in the thread is what it is because every time a space related pic is posted it seems there's a race to post Whitey's On The Moon. I don't know if anything else is quite as reliable in-thread, outside of saying Gun Control three times in front of a mirror summoning LeJackal. 
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KazigluBey posted:saying Gun Control three times 
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KazigluBey posted:I don't know if anything else is quite as reliable in-thread, outside of saying Gun Control three times in front of a mirror summoning LeJackal. Don't do it, you fools; you'll doom us all!  
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 Wasn't this the project that ruined Bill Dauterive's life?
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The other day when I paid about $14 for someone to make me a meal instead of spending about $2 to cook my own meal, I made a conscious decision that spending the other $12 on me was more worthwhile to my convenience and enjoyment of tasty food than if I gave that money to a charity that helps the poor. The same can be said of literally every expenditure anyone ever makes that isn't for the purpose of allowing them to make more money to give to charity (i.e. paying for a suit so you can get a higher paying job so you can give more to chairty). I'm going to guess all the people getting mad about rockets aren't posting from free public library accounts, and even if you are, why the gently caress aren't you out volunteering and helping those in need instead of arguing with space nerds on the internet? Why have you decided your utility as an arguing voice on the internet is more important than your utility as a volunteer or charity worker? NASA livery is cool 
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Look at this guy who thinks "charity" will solve the problem of poverty. 
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War is also a major driver for technological advance. We indeed benefit from space tech, doesn't change the fact that private space flight is either for commercial applications like lowering satellite launch costs or as a rich persons' toy. Sorry for focusing on the political side of the "great advancement for mankind", but it won't actually change much. Also lol at nerds fellating Elon Musk
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mlmp08 posted:The other day when I paid about $14 for someone to make me a meal instead of spending about $2 to cook my own meal, I made a conscious decision that spending the other $12 on me was more worthwhile to my convenience and enjoyment of tasty food than if I gave that money to a charity that helps the poor. The same can be said of literally every expenditure anyone ever makes that isn't for the purpose of allowing them to make more money to give to charity (i.e. paying for a suit so you can get a higher paying job so you can give more to chairty). 
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 Science: The white conspiracy to distract from the plight of the black man. This as legitimate a complaint as Fox News has whenever they look at the funds given to scientific studies every year.  No sense in investing in space, I'm sure nothing bad could ever happen to us.
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Nerds misunderstanding and then getting really mad at Gil Scott Heron's silly track is a true dnd tradition! https://vimeo.com/117983862
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Krowley posted:Nerds misunderstanding and then getting really mad at Gil Scott Heron's silly track is a true dnd tradition! For the record, I didn't say anything about Heron, I was referring to goons. 
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Krowley posted:Nerds misunderstanding and then getting really mad at Gil Scott Heron's silly track is a true dnd tradition! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw the revolution will not be
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Krowley posted:Nerds misunderstanding and then getting really mad at Gil Scott Heron's silly track is a true dnd tradition! But no one, and I mean no one in D&D misunderstands B-Movie. https://vimeo.com/67538277
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America is the wealthiest country in the world but there are millions of Americans who live in poverty and can't eat three meals a day. Remove the space program and all of this is magically fixed! Just like giving billions of dollars in foreign aid to African nations has solved the poverty there, duh. 
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The Somalian government just banned Christmas. Pictured: One of the ~1,000 Somalian Christians who officially don't exist.
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System Metternich posted:The Somalian government just banned Christmas. Interesting claim at the end: quote:Earlier this week, the sultan of Brunei also banned public Christmas celebrations, saying they could “damage the beliefs of the Muslim community," according to the Brunei Times.  Wedding of the sultan's son. Kopijeger fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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System Metternich posted:Pictured: One of the ~1,000 Somalian Christians who officially don't exist. You say don't. I think you mean won't.  I honestly don't know why Obama isn't loved by more of the right wing for his bombings of people in countries like somalia (and many more! Six I think). It's one of the things I personally like about the guy.
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Modest Mao posted:Why did 3 people post whitey on the moon on this page? Because it's the perfect response when people get whipped up into an autistic brain bleed because Elon Musk did something after exploding half a billion dollars of rockets when those resources could have gone to something other than Capital's dumb sci fi fantasy. 
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mlmp08 posted:The other day when I paid about $14 for someone to make me a meal instead of spending about $2 to cook my own meal, I made a conscious decision that spending the other $12 on me was more worthwhile to my convenience and enjoyment of tasty food than if I gave that money to a charity that helps the poor. The same can be said of literally every expenditure anyone ever makes that isn't for the purpose of allowing them to make more money to give to charity (i.e. paying for a suit so you can get a higher paying job so you can give more to chairty). 
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Stultus Maximus posted:Or maybe because launching a satellite into orbit is a physics problem with a universally accepted solution and solving poverty and discrimination is a massively complex social and cultural problem without an accepted solution? Actually, solving poverty is ALSO a physics problem: 
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 Mall of Merica disallowing BLM protesters http://abcnews.go.com/US/arrests-made-black-lives-matter-protests/story?id=35923269 GI Joe jobs fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Vostok was developed in parallel with the Zenit spy satellite because Sergei Korolev realized he wouldn't be able to get enough backing for a solely scientific mission, whereas if the capsule was designed so that it could also be loaded with a big camera and equipment for SIGINT recordings, the military would be interested in it too.   
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FlyingCheese posted:My goodness you are angry, and misinformed. Besides, there's absolutely no one saying we can't both take care of the poor and go to space. The existence of one thing does not negate the other. 
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Season's Greetings, from Nancy Reagan and Mr T.
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