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i liked the characters and their stories, also the things they said those were also good
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Egbert Souse posted:What's funny is that I feel the same way about the pacing of Star Wars '77. It seems like it takes place over only two days as opposed to weeks in Empire and Jedi. I don't think anyone can really reasonably say how much time passes from leaving Tatooine to the destruction of the Death Star. I'm not even sure Wookiepeia knows.
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ImpAtom posted:I don't think anyone can really reasonably say how much time passes from leaving Tatooine to the destruction of the Death Star. I'm not even sure Wookiepeia knows. Same is true for Empire Strikes Back. How long did it take the Falcon to get from Hoth to Bespin? How long did Luke train with Yoda? Could be days. Could be weeks. Nobody knows.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:15
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Rey is not loving Luke. Luke was a loving incompetent impatient nincompoop who does zero fighting outside of a x wing in the first film. Rey would eat Luke up and poo poo him out for breakfast. Not that she doesn't have character flaws. But from the outset she is force aware and capable of battle. Luke gets loving knocked out by some loving sand men.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:16
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Luke was a hero who blew up the death star, buddy.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:17
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Egbert Souse posted:What's funny is that I feel the same way about the pacing of Star Wars '77. It seems like it takes place over only two days as opposed to weeks in Empire and Jedi. The travel from Tatoonie to the Death Star alone feels like it takes forever. Lot of loving establishing shots and events going on in that ship during that travel period in hyperspace. Literally zero for this film.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:18
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The dude who heroically saved the princess and swung accross a space cavern with a grappling hook like Errol Flynn was def an incompetent idiot.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:18
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CalmDownMate posted:Rey is not loving Luke. Luke was a loving incompetent impatient nincompoop who does zero fighting outside of a x wing in the first film. Calm Down Mate.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:18
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Amethyst posted:Luke was a hero who blew up the death star, buddy. Literally the only thing he did in the movie. Oh great a grappling hook. Luke didn't save the Princess. Han Solo, the wookie, and R2 saved the Princess.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:19
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CalmDownMate posted:Rey is not loving Luke.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:19
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how did you guys feel about the movie? seems pretty divided itt between terrible and horrible
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Dec 24, 2015 05:20
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CalmDownMate posted:Literally the only thing he did in the movie. You're incredibly stupid
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Dec 24, 2015 05:20
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I don't know how any one could watch a movie about a young farm kid overcoming adversity to save the galaxy and somehow come out of it thinking "what a loser that guy is"
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Dec 24, 2015 05:23
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Amethyst posted:I don't know how any one could watch a movie about a young farm kid overcoming adversity to save the galaxy and somehow come out of it thinking "what a loser that guy is" on a rewatch there are a lot of things that make Luke unlikable. his acting skills were unpolished especially in the first movie and a lot of his dialog comes across as pretty whiny and awkward to a modern audience.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:27
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Chewie is Luke. Anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot, forever.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:29
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Amethyst posted:I don't know how any one could watch a movie about a young farm kid overcoming adversity to save the galaxy and somehow come out of it thinking "what a loser that guy is"
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Dec 24, 2015 05:33
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Amethyst posted:I don't know how any one could watch a movie about a young farm kid overcoming adversity to save the galaxy and somehow come out of it thinking "what a loser that guy is" Luke is maligned by Yoda in the second film as being impatient always looking to the future and not being aware of what is currently going on around him. That's what drives me to say those things. Taking Star Wars by itself you know Luke may look cool, he's a hero. If you look at Star Wars in the context of The Empire Strikes Back Luke is quite obviously not that great of a fighter, has a lot of weaknesses, and had a lot of help and luck to get where he was and everything Yoda says about him rings absolutely 100% true. That's what Star Wars the original trilogy is about. Luke isn't some amazing prodigy with all these skills from the get so; he has to work to obtain the skills he does obtain. Ray i'm not going to call her a Mary Sue. I like the character but I feel it's too vague - there's not a explanation of who she is or where she came from so instantly being able to beat a person who from the get go is demonstrated to be a very powerful force user seems pretty odd. And it makes him look a whole lot weaker and kind of defeats him as a character. When he does kill Han it isn't badassery it isn't cool it just looks like the last pathetic cry for help of a confused teenager. Which doesn't really fit in with the first scene and him killing a whole loving village in my mind. I mean it wasn't until like the third movies that Jedi's could even block laser shots and rebound them back at their attackers and the kid was stopping laser shots in mid air. He was obviously very strong. CalmDownMate fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Dec 24, 2015 05:35
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Snoke was pretty "meh" when Starkiller Base is destroyed...was it purpose built to dispatch the majority of the Republic fleet and its capital planet before its inevitable destruction by The Resistance? A 2-shot planet/base so to speak (2 suns in its "origin" system).
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Dec 24, 2015 05:36
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Luke "greatest jedi" Skywalker
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Dec 24, 2015 05:36
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Smoking Crow posted:Luke "greatest jedi" Skywalker I mean that may even be true, none of the Jedi we saw set a high bar to clear exactly.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:40
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Has anyone brought up Dark Helmet wrt Ren. Interesting parallels imho.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:41
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euphronius posted:This was the first time I've ever seen Adam driver on screen. I thought he was tremendously .... I don't know. I can't describe what his face does on screen. I was super impressed tho. I thought Adam Drivers casting was weird... Probably because I see him as that guy from Girls every time he is on screen. Everyone else that was new was an unknown to me, which was great.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:44
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BunLengthHotDog posted:Snoke was pretty "meh" when Starkiller Base is destroyed...was it purpose built to dispatch the majority of the Republic fleet and its capital planet before its inevitable destruction by The Resistance? A 2-shot planet/base so to speak (2 suns in its "origin" system). The impression I got was that Snoke cared less about the First Order/Resistance conflict than he did about the Jedi/Ren/Rey and basically gave the go-ahead for whatever toy or plan his fanatics wanted to push through. Anything related to the Force seemed to take a higher priority to him. I could be misremembering though.
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Boogaleeboo posted:I mean that may even be true, none of the Jedi we saw set a high bar to clear exactly. Luke "my favorite character" Skywalker
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Dec 24, 2015 05:46
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My interpretation is that the first order is about getting Luke Skywalker. That's its goal. Star killer base was a interesting side activity of evil tho. But as the movie shows all doomsday weapons are .... Doomed as long as Jedi exist. Got to get them all before you really try and take over the Galaxy.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:47
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Yeah I think either A. He doesn't really give a poo poo about The First Order and B. The Starkiller base was probably just step one of his master plan or whatever that will be revealed in IX.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:47
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temple posted:To kid, Luke is a hero. To an adult, Luke is a lucky brat. Only if you're a particularly narcissistic adult.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:47
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To a kid, Luke is a hero. To an adult, Luke is a kid.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:50
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I thought he was whiny when I was a kid, and I grew to like him more and more.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:53
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So apparently Disney goofed and (potentially) spoiled Rey's lineage in their Infinity 3.0 video game. Take with many grains of salt -also I'm not going to spoiler tag it since it's still technically speculation http://comicbook.com/2015/12/24/reys-identity-possibly-revealed-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens-d/ quote:...Kylo Ren seems to shout at Rey to "Face me, cousin!"
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Dec 24, 2015 05:53
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Luke is whiny, but that's kind of the point. He's literally a teenager in A New Hope and watching him grow up and mature over the course of the series is great.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:54
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She if she's Lukes son who the gently caress did he gently caress? The wookie?
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Dec 24, 2015 05:57
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CalmDownMate posted:She if she's Lukes son who the gently caress did he gently caress? There was no mother. She takes after her grandfather. It was a difficult birth.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:59
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CalmDownMate posted:She if she's Lukes son who the gently caress did he gently caress? He created her with the force. She's lady-Jesus, immacutely conceived by Luke.
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Dec 24, 2015 06:00
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KakerMix posted:Seems like most people that say they don't like Rey are in two camps, one is the sexist idiots and the others are the ones that want to hate a popular thing . Yeah. Everyone who has different opinions on things than me is a really bad person too. 
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Dec 24, 2015 06:00
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spacetoaster posted:Yeah. Everyone who has different opinions on things than me is a really bad person too. There are good reasons to dislike Rey, just not really by comparison to any of her counterparts.
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Dec 24, 2015 06:01
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I think Rey will be a good character, once she's given a chance to develop, but for the purposes of The Force Awakens her actual character development kind of took a back seat to her role as a primary audience surrogate. It was a bit problematic for her, but I can see the reasoning behind it.
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Dec 24, 2015 06:03
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She was cool as gently caress actually.
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Dec 24, 2015 06:06
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Apparently (according to the rest of the Internet) Kylo is saying "Curses!" and not "Cousin!" in that clip, so Rey's lineage is not confirmed.
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hmm yeah the division between bad and very bad continues
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