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The hero of new year's eve is back, Hideo Tokoro is coming to prevent Rizin from being a total disaster. He's fighting Kizaemon Saiga, who you may remember if you watched latter day K-1 as the boy band looking guy who made fun of his pale, big-nosed Korean opponent for being "ugly" and then lost a 30-24 decision after getting liver punched to death by said Korean. Saiga's now 2-0 in MMA but that's nowhere near enough experience when you're fighting a guy like Tokoro. However, there's still intrigue because Tokoro is both wild and chinny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1R0dqJTG5s
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It's always cool to see Tokoro fight. Also, here's Gabi Garcia talking as little about her opponent as possible and sparring with Cyborg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIDvX5Wxajg&hd=1
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fatherdog posted:It's always cool to see Tokoro fight. The effects testosterone have had on her face are just staggering. Someone pls photoshop Vitor's terrible crucifix haircut onto her.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:from the archives: Play it backwards and you almost have a spicy combo of Rothwell/Browne making mad moves.
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Dec 23, 2015 01:54
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He confused the other guy so much that he didn't follow up, smart move from Jaideep
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Dec 23, 2015 02:09
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ONE FC'S new weight system seems interesting.http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/12/23/10658048/following-death-of-fighter-one-fc-unveils-new-weigh-in-program-to posted:1. Athletes must submit their current walking weight and daily training weight regularly. Athletes will input and track their daily weight online via a dedicated web portal. Athletes may input data weekly but must include daily weights.
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Dec 23, 2015 20:12
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Bluedeanie posted:ONE FC'S new weight system seems interesting. that seems like so much work and contains so many spots for fights to fall apart
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Dec 23, 2015 20:19
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How the gently caress is ONEFC going to afford this Like, if you were actually serious about eliminating weight cutting this is probably the ideal way to do it, but where are they getting their money from that they can throw it at something with this much administrative oversight/work
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Dec 23, 2015 20:36
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Why not just do regular weigh ins the day before, then do a weigh in right before the fight and if you are more than 3% over the weight class limit or whatever you get fined 50k. That seems cheaper
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Dec 23, 2015 20:37
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david carmichael posted:Why not just do regular weigh ins the day before, then do a weigh in right before the fight and if you are more than 3% over the weight class limit or whatever you get fined 50k. That seems cheaper That'd be easier and would give the illusion of cracking down on weight cutting, but would likely only encourage fighters to fight more dehydrated than it would curtail extreme weight cutting, which is of course also very bad. This at least keeps them involved in monitoring fighters' weights from several weeks out, before and during the time they'd presumably be cutting weight, in an attempt to keep them at their actual walking weight through the process and up to fight time. I agree that probably doesn't happen though because that's a very expensive and still largely honor-based babysitting service.
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Hopefully it doesn't completely blow up in their faces and somehow goes completely smoothly so this can eventually be a realistic option for the UFC.
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Lauzon already tweeted a 6 minute video in which he details all of the problems with the proposed system.
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If you came in super dehydrated because of same day weigh-ins or w/e would that not cancel out your size advantage if the other guy came in closer to his natural weight?
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EmmyOk posted:If you came in super dehydrated because of same day weigh-ins or w/e would that not cancel out your size advantage if the other guy came in closer to his natural weight? I don't know what degree of impact it would have on your direct fighting ability but it'd make you a lot more prone to being knocked out and having a serious brain injury, which is presumably something promotions and commissions would prefer not to happen on their watch.
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Bluedeanie posted:That'd be easier and would give the illusion of cracking down on weight cutting, but would likely only encourage fighters to fight more dehydrated than it would curtail extreme weight cutting, which is of course also very bad. This at least keeps them involved in monitoring fighters' weights from several weeks out, before and during the time they'd presumably be cutting weight, in an attempt to keep them at their actual walking weight through the process and up to fight time. You wouldn't be able to maintain that level of dehydration over 20 hours, and also you wouldn't be able to rehydrate and cut again in that time frame
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david carmichael posted:Why not just do regular weigh ins the day before, then do a weigh in right before the fight and if you are more than 3% over the weight class limit or whatever you get fined 50k. That seems cheaper What about instead the day before the weigh-in and the day of the weigh in?
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EmmyOk posted:If you came in super dehydrated because of same day weigh-ins or w/e would that not cancel out your size advantage if the other guy came in closer to his natural weight? you wouldn't have a size advantage, because you'd weigh the same +-3% on the day of the fight
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Some of the Sheep posted:What about instead the day before the weigh-in and the day of the weigh in? stupid/brave people would try to stay dehydrated for the 24 hour period then replenish, or dehydrate then replenish slightly then dehydrate again then fully replenish. and then people would still die, perhaps more frequently
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even though onefc's system won't be the silver bullet that ends dangerous weight cutting practices, i'm glad someone somewhere is trying something
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Apologies if this was covered anywhere, but how do we watch Rizin? I've heard it's being broadcasted on Spike on tape delay, but when? Also, is there any way to watch live? Also how the hell are both they and Enoki both running shows at Saitama on NYE?
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david carmichael posted:stupid/brave people would try to stay dehydrated for the 24 hour period then replenish, or dehydrate then replenish slightly then dehydrate again then fully replenish. and then people would still die, perhaps more frequently Really, the problem is that someone is always going to try to game any system that's put in place, even if that system is trying to prolong their health by minimizing the brain damage risk from dehydrating. The rational response is to just have a lower walking-around weight and cut less for the fight, but someone will always be looking for that weight advantage. Like even if the had a weekly weigh-in throughout a fighter's camp, they'd probably still do mini-cuts before the weekly weigh in so they could then cut more weight before the fight. Shouldn't the IV ban be enough, since it seems like they're erring on the side of caution with rehydration.
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Thauros posted:Apologies if this was covered anywhere, but how do we watch Rizin? I've heard it's being broadcasted on Spike on tape delay, but when? Also, is there any way to watch live? Also how the hell are both they and Enoki both running shows at Saitama on NYE? IIt's probably best not to watch the first night, just give it a miss, it doesn't count anyway and is barely cannon.
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Thauros posted:Apologies if this was covered anywhere, but how do we watch Rizin? I've heard it's being broadcasted on Spike on tape delay, but when? Also, is there any way to watch live? Also how the hell are both they and Enoki both running shows at Saitama on NYE? Select matches will be aired on Spike on Tuesday and Thursday. Fuji TV will air it live in Japan, maybe it'll be on streaming sites, but I wouldn't expect anything worthwhile to hunt on Night 1
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I want to see the Sakuraba fight even though I realize that it'll probably be depressing. Oh, and Inoki's running at Sumo Hall NYE and not Saitama which explans how there can be two NYE shows.
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if all it took was one guy dying on the mat to make fight camps revise how they do weight cuts, I'd be all about the fight day weigh ins. OneFC's historical weight tracking thing seems a lot better. I'd also like to see more fight orgs make camps agree to some type of fighter safety during training accords. Having to do late replacements because some gym hero decided to wreck an advertised fighter is silly.
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Rizin is a total poo poo show. It'll be great, I'm very excited. If you're in the mood for low level B-League MMA, there is a card just starting in Russia, headlined by Jeff Monson vs some Cameroonian without a Fight Finder profile. Looks like there's 6 fights on the card. Not sure if sharing a link would count as  but if you hit me up on my Twitter (@forkboy84) I'm sure I can help you.
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Read an article earlier today stating that JT only trained for 2 days for his Rizin fight with TK  Willie make me feel okay about this bro
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forkboy84 posted:Rizin is a total poo poo show. It'll be great, I'm very excited. Fights happened. You can see Monson's fight on Youtube. It doesn't last even a minute before The Snowman gets flattened with a big one punch KO.
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He's really self-conscious about his thighs. Also: capitalism.
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Road FC is going to be implementing an unlimited points scoring system:quote:A) 1 point awarded for each: Wanna see how some old fights look with that point system.
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Does the ref signal when a clean strike happens like how wrestling refs signal back points? Or do the judges just guess based on what they saw?
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Ok so I actually rewatched DC vs Gus and scored it with this system using a pen and paper. This amounted to me desperately looking up and down and just winging it for some of the big flurries, and probably not realizing a bunch of strikes were blocked, slipped or outright missed. Not accounting for Gus' running away as a foul, since Herb didn't warn him about it or anything, I got: (DC-Gus) Round 1: 37-7 Round 2: 26-28 Round 3: 36-38 Round 4: 26-30 Round 5: 46-26 Total: 171-129 Using fight metric stats with significant strikes/takedowns/passes at 1 point, DC's huge slam in round 1 and Gustafsson's knockdown in round 3 both accounted as 5 points: Round 1: 21-5 Round 2: 28-28 Round 3: 36-37 Round 4: 31-37 Round 5: 31-18 Total: 147-125 So uh good luck to the judges because keeping up with that poo poo is hard. Although, isn't what I did how some judges already keep track of their scores? But that was a fun little exercise, and that fight was still real dope on a rewatch. Also DC's clinch uppercuts own.
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Getting the back with both hooks in is worth the same as a jab.
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I look forward to the good and not at all incompetent or corrupt judges issuing single points for each "clear aggression" integer they register, so Diaz-Condit type fights score like six trillion for Diaz entirely based on wading forward and like 400 for Condit based on actually landing strikes effectively.
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It turns out all of those judges who thought Leonard Garcia won fights by aggressively swinging at air were right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbX9G2oVKfU herb dean putting in work. also the following is the stupidest heavyweight fight i've ever seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeekxPIabek
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Both cool
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also even though i know he's sub-usa kickboxing heavyweight level, hyun man myung has been beating up fat guys in mma and looks like he might fit in at bellator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqmQPlDqQYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om8Bz1r3TIo the remaining participants in this tournament of dreams are: hong man choi, mighty mo, really fat chinese guy
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