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Bottom Liner posted:This game is a lot harder on the table as opposed to Vassal Speaking of which, how does everyone go about finding partners on Vassal? I'm getting used to using the program in a solo sense (doing the Heroes of the Whatever Cluster module), but I'd love to try some online games to test some squads so I;m not flying them the first time during a tournament.
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enigmahfc posted:Speaking of which, how does everyone go about finding partners on Vassal? I'm getting used to using the program in a solo sense (doing the Heroes of the Whatever Cluster module), but I'd love to try some online games to test some squads so I;m not flying them the first time during a tournament. This too. I'd love to play this as well because most of the time I can't make my FLGS game nights
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I just ask in the lobby. You sometimes need to hang around for a while before you find a game, but it happens eventually.
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Dec 24, 2015 21:48
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Was anyone else desperately hoping for one more preview article before Christmas? 
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thespaceinvader posted:Was anyone else desperately hoping for one more preview article before Christmas? 
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Strobe posted:Poe doesn't have an evade action. Also, VI. PS10 for Poe (well, for anyone basically) is nice.
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Dec 25, 2015 00:02
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I honestly prefer PTL for Poe. VI is now but his ability doesn't rely on good PS.
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PTL's good, but I do love shooting first.
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KongGeorgeVII posted:Both lists are a little simpler and more focused towards doing one thing which should make the transition to 100 points a little smoother. Cool, thanks for the suggestions, I'm still trying to get a good feel for what works together and what doesn't.
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thespaceinvader posted:Was anyone else desperately hoping for one more preview article before Christmas? There was another Gonzati preview yesterday, but you probably already saw that one. Speaking of, I really want the Gonzanti but omg I never play epic and I only have so much shelf room. I just really want to hook TIE Fighters to this thing.
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I'm bad at lists, and new to this! Please tell me all the things wrong with this: http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/373401/lockdown The idea is Dutch shits out target locks for himself and Blount, while blount removes his stress. Elswhere, Corran is busy stunting all over the place and performing his own target lock shenanigans.
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AndyElusive posted:There was another Gonzati preview yesterday, but you probably already saw that one. I don't have room to store mine, so it's living on a bookshelf. But hey, bonus--I have free four spaces in my box formerly occupied by TIE Fighters.
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Strobe posted:Poe doesn't have an evade action. poo poo. AndyElusive posted:There was another Gonzati preview yesterday, but you probably already saw that one. seriously be careful. they're hard to get off and i broke one. another one seperated from its post and i had to get pliers/reglue it.
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Happy xwings day. I have gotten so far one kirhaxz, one phantom and one TFA core set.
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How do you deal with Rebel stress builds as empire? Tactician K-Wings or R3-A2 Y-Wings just eat Soontir, Vader, and most of the other action-dependent Imperial aces for lunch. Stress builds have hit my local meta like a ton of bricks. I'm half-tempted to go back to TIE swarms. Which is sad, because I feel like I just grew out of them.
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ConfusedUs posted:How do you deal with Rebel stress builds as empire? Use your action dependent Imperial aces as bait, and don't actually commit to the fight until the stressing unit is dead. I give you 5:1 odds that if you tease them with Soontir but never actually bring Soontir to the fight (or bring him in range, and then speed the gently caress away out of range the next turn) they'll waste time chasing him and let you set up good shots with your other ships.
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Imperial players rely too much on high-PS action-dependent ships, when really the Empire's toolbox is far more versatile than Soontir and Vader. You'll grow out of TIEs only to grow straight back into them in my experience.
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ConfusedUs posted:How do you deal with Rebel stress builds as empire? If the Y is running btl just arc dodge it. The K wings you should be able to either keep range 3 or boost into r1 and after that blow past them and with their dial they wont have another opportunity to trigger tactician.
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Babby's second attempt at a list, that I mostly have the stuff for save having to proxy the hull upgrades. I think everything actually works like I want it to in this one, so I'll give it a try after the FLGs resumes Flightpath Fridays after the New Year. "Omega Leader" (21) Juke (2) Comm Relay (3) Hull Upgrade (3) "Omega Ace" (20) Push the Limit (3) Hull Upgrade (3) Omega Squadron Pilot (17) Wingman (2) Hull Upgrade (3) Omega Squadron Pilot (17) Cool Hand (1) Weapons Guidance (2) Hull Upgrade (3) Total: 100 I'm an idiot who likes to stick to a theme to a fault. Also TIE/fo's look cool.
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I'd drop the hull upgrades and make the Omega Squadrons Zetas instead. That way you can fit in an extra ship. With TIEs, even their FO brethren, more is better.
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Otisburg posted:Babby's second attempt at a list, that I mostly have the stuff for save having to proxy the hull upgrades. I think everything actually works like I want it to in this one, so I'll give it a try after the FLGs resumes Flightpath Fridays after the New Year. Hull Upgrades are generally bad. I'd drop them all in order to bring in the TIE/FO pilot that is basically Wingman but a million times better , drop the Omega pilots to Zetas, and you can fit a second one with the points you're not spending on Weapons Guidance and Cool Hand.
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Endman posted:I'd drop the hull upgrades and make the Omega Squadrons Zetas instead. That way you can fit in an extra ship. With TIEs, even their FO brethren, more is better. I'd agree with that. Here's "Omega Squadron" https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...82:-1,-1:-1:-1: Or something that's probably a bit better, but loses the thematic stuff https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v3!s!187:152,153:-1:-1:;179:18,-1:-1:-1:;183:-1:-1:-1:;183:-1:-1:-1:;180:-1:-1:-1:
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Oh, poo poo how did I miss Epsilon Leader? Yeah I liked the idea of having someone cool off Omega Ace with Wingman so he can potentially gimmick every turn without having to be predictable on his dial, but that dude has Super Wingman built in and might we worth breaking the dumb "Omega" theme for. Guess I'm buying at least one more TIE/fo expansion.
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ConfusedUs posted:Or something that's probably a bit better, but loses the thematic stuff This is literally identical to what I just suggested. 
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If you're comfortable with mixing TIE and TIE/fo Fighters, Howlrunner would make your swarm far more efficient. You could do this: https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v3!s!187:152,153:-1:-1:;179:18,-1:-1:-1:;180:-1:-1:-1:;18:-1:-1:-1:;153::-1:-1:
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Wampa is hilarious and I really wish he didn't come in the Assault Carrier because I'd rather not fork out the enormous amount of money that thing costs down here.
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Endman posted:Wampa is hilarious and I really wish he didn't come in the Assault Carrier because I'd rather not fork out the enormous amount of money that thing costs down here. You could always switch him with a black squad or academy or whatever. Honestly I've found that a single Black Squadron with Draw Their Fire is worth its weight in gold for taking big hits off high-priority targets in the swarm, like Howl.
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So, when it comes around, I'm gonna get the Imperial Veterans pack. I'll have no need for the bomber, and I'd prefer to trade the red defender for a regular one. Will this be the right place to ask?
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The Tie Carrier's out. In other words, I'm not getting anything with my amazon money (from surveys) for a long time.
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Honestly, I'm not even sure I'm going to bother picking it up. Most of the new pilots are gimmicky as hell and don't seem very good, except for Scourge. Agent Kallus is pretty cool, but I'm not sure when I'll be running a Phantom again, soooo, eh.
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Kilo147 posted:So, when it comes around, I'm gonna get the Imperial Veterans pack. I'll have no need for the bomber, and I'd prefer to trade the red defender for a regular one. Will this be the right place to ask? Depends. Are you in the States?
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OB_Juan posted:I'm bad at lists, and new to this! Please tell me all the things wrong with this: http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/373401/lockdown Unless I have some kind of "I hate interceptors" episode, this is likely what I'll be flying against you with. code:Its not super good, but I loving love interceptors.
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T-70 X-Wing: · Poe Dameron (31) Push The Limit (3) · BB-8 (2) Autothrusters (2) X-Wing: · Wedge Antilles (29) Veteran Instincts (1) R2 Astromech (1) Integrated Astromech (0) K-Wing: · Esege Tuketu (28) Recon Specialist (3) This feels like a waste of a K-wing but Esege can feed his focus tokens to Wedge and Poe plus its more hull to chew through and a 360 primary. Someone above mentioned that Poe build; BB-8 gives him a free barrel action that he can PTL off of, reveal a green maneuver and take a regular action afterward. Does that work out?
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ConfusedUs posted:How do you deal with Rebel stress builds as empire? Tactician K wings are easy, you go after they do and have boost/barrel roll, staying out of Tactician range should be easy enough, though more difficult if they're flown well enough to spread out their ranges effectively. R3A2 is harder, but you should be able to focus it down before it does much, and it's easy to arcdodge if it's using the title or arcdodge/donut hole if it's not. Or you counter with imperial stress builds yourself. Mara Jade, Rebel Captive and Tactician in the same build is going to be a PITA.
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Tactician works only in the firing arc, so you just have to tease out the kwings and make sure you don't joust in the initial exchange. If they use TLTs they'll mostly want to orbit, so that means the tactician doesn't see a lot of use. Rebel stress builds tend to do better imo against action economy lists such as super-tank chewie etc. Imperial high PS lists tend to hate imperial stress lists more, since there is no way to avoid getting stress from Rebel Captive.
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Tekopo posted:Tactician works only in the firing arc, so you just have to tease out the kwings and make sure you don't joust in the initial exchange. If they use TLTs they'll mostly want to orbit, so that means the tactician doesn't see a lot of use. The triple tactician K-wing build actually slow-rolls to keep a nice big range 2 zone for the tacticians, but I wouldn't call it a mainstream build. More likely, you'll see a stressbot Y-wing supporting someone else, like Poe Dameron or another rebel ace, where the stressbot takes away a bunch of board and your ace finishes the job. The imperial stress builds are not nearly as dangerous because they don't double-dip.
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RAC with rebel captive and VI wrecked me when I was flying a shuttle/phantom/soontir lists. The double tap is nasty but there are ways to avoid it if you fly carefully. Getting even two stress on soontir is nasty so when you face a rebel captive you either forego your extra action or just don't fire, which isn't ideal.
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