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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The Vosgian Beast posted:

There's been on ongoing merger between internet antinatalism and right-wing politics.

http://antinatalismo.blogspot.com/2015/12/again-with-star-wars-force-awakens.html

You'd think the people who want to SECURE A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN and the people who want to exterminate everyone would not get along, but I dunno, edgelordery does not equal consistency.

Nerd scum certainly make me want to exterminate all humans.

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Curvature of Earth
Sep 9, 2011

Projected cost of
invading Canada:
$900

The Vosgian Beast posted:

There's been on ongoing merger between internet antinatalism and right-wing politics.

http://antinatalismo.blogspot.com/2015/12/again-with-star-wars-force-awakens.html

You'd think the people who want to SECURE A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN and the people who want to exterminate everyone would not get along, but I dunno, edgelordery does not equal consistency.

A competent woman exists on-screen I must complain about it posted:

our lady friend here is so corageous and brave. She not only fights side by side with the characters. In the movie she is seen fending off the attack of thiefs with her staff - and when the male character Finn goes to help her, she already took care of them, and he remains there, as kinda humorous moment, in which he realizes he was kinda stupid to assume she needed help. THAT IS IN THE MOVIE. Second of all, she is oh, so intelligent. She is a pilot, even though she is also an scavenger on a god-forsaken planet in the middle of the desert, where she has to trade electronic parts of old ships for food. But this doesn't stop her knowing a lot of languages, like communicating with a robot (droids, they call it in SW), and with Chewbacca, even though she is clearly a freaking scavenger living in the middle of a desert. She knows her way about computers. Do you know of any people who live in deserts scavenging parts of broken vehicles that can fly a motherfucking airplane? Or talk two or three or four languages? From different creatures?

Oh, bullshit.

I never thought I'd get a chance to post this quote on SA:

Only dudes get to be Mary Sues posted:

So, there’s this girl. She’s tragically orphaned and richer than anyone on the planet. Every guy she meets falls in love with her, but in between torrid romances she rejects them all because she dedicated to what is Pure and Good. She has genius level intellect, Olympic-athelete level athletic ability and incredible good looks. She is consumed by terrible angst, but this only makes guys want her more. She has no superhuman abilities, yet she is more competent than her superhuman friends and defeats superhumans with ease. She has unshakably loyal friends and allies, despite the fact she treats them pretty badly. They fear and respect her, and defer to her orders. Everyone is obsessed with her, even her enemies are attracted to her. She can plan ahead for anything and she’s generally right with any conclusion she makes. People who defy her are inevitably wrong.

God, what a Mary Sue.

I just described Batman.

(Of course, this elides the sociological perspective on Mary Sues. But I'm already getting off-topic here.)

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Curvature of Earth posted:

I never thought I'd get a chance to post this quote on SA:


(Of course, this elides the sociological perspective on Mary Sues. But I'm already getting off-topic here.)

I like how "THAT IS IN THE MOVIE" implies that a woman winning a fight is so loving foreign and bizarre an idea that they thought they needed to emphasize the point comically :allears:

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Curvature of Earth posted:

I never thought I'd get a chance to post this quote on SA:


(Of course, this elides the sociological perspective on Mary Sues. But I'm already getting off-topic here.)

Someone says this to him in the comments

quote:

But the problem is not to find intelligent, capable people on film, but feminist movies tend to have the subtext that women do this because of their femininity. That because of it they are more special, on all areas of life.

Her character is the most capable character in the movie, and it´s greatly implied in the subtext that it is because she is a woman, that´s the message to little girls out there.

She can do all the stuff men on the movie do, ONLY BETTER, and ALSO be a woman, (be feminine, protected, etc etc.).

It´s ludicrous.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

neonnoodle posted:

Ugh now I can't go in this thread because of Star Wars spoilers?

There hasn't been anything so far that wasn't in a trailer, you should be ok.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
How do you watch the movie and know about star wars and not understand that there's a reason she's such a badass?

Also lol at the idea that possessing a variety of skills and speaking multiple languages is unbelievable.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Pope Guilty posted:

How do you watch the movie and know about star wars and not understand that there's a reason she's such a badass?

Also lol at the idea that possessing a variety of skills and speaking multiple languages is unbelievable.

Um an icky g-g-g-g-girl doing those things is what's so unbelievable :colbert:

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Cingulate posted:

I definitely derive more pleasure from people being extremely angry at there being a Black guy and a white evil guy and a woman who (I hope) doesn't have to be rescued, but does rescuing herself in the new Star Wars movie than I ever could from the movie itself. I really hope they make the next movie really glaringly obvious in that sense (even more than Star Wars originally was, with the all-white all-male Star Destroyer crews and the ragtag rebel group). Like, the Sith symbol looks like a swastika, the evil guys include four blonde men, the evil dark lord is a wife beater, the Jedi get a gay latino boss, Boyega kissing the Whitest woman possible on all of the movie posters and in the key scene where the film's stupid space dick explodes, and so on.

As Clarkhat says:

The future is a movie poster with a Black guy kissing a White face, forever. Metaphorically.

there's literally a scene in the new one where one of the top first empire guys gives a speech about how they're gonna blow up the republic before firing their giant system-destroying laser powered by a sun, standing in his fancy black uniform in front of a giant red banner with ranks and ranks of soldiers before him who, at the end, raise their fists in salut

i'm saying it's straight up nazi rally

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


smh that the Cathedral would waste it's overwhelming cultural power on inserting a joke as tired as "damsel not actually in distress" when there are still white men out there who remain uncucked.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Someone should roleplay as a dude who is really really into cuckolding porn and is trying to convince neoreactionaries that cuckolding is too wonderful a world to use.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Someone should roleplay as a dude who is really really into cuckolding porn and is trying to convince neoreactionaries that cuckolding is too wonderful a world to use.

Better idea: Pretend to be a black guy who's into being cucked by white guys. The possibilities to gently caress with the alt-right are truly infinite.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Better idea: just spam all their comment fields and twitters with dick pics and gay porn. It's what they really want.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Jack Gladney posted:

Better idea: just spam all their comment fields and twitters with dick pics and gay porn. It's what they really want.
Better idea: Make a pay blog full of graphic content called "Degenerate Media." Get that patreon money coming in, and now they have an excuse for looking at the gay porn.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

MizPiz posted:

Better idea: Pretend to be a black guy who's into being cucked by white guys. The possibilities to gently caress with the alt-right are truly infinite.

Oh my god, that would be amazing.


Jack Gladney posted:

Better idea: just spam all their comment fields and twitters with dick pics and gay porn. It's what they really want.

That might be a good idea for the Moldbug types, but the alt-right types are hardened to that stuff, pun semi-intended.

Nessus posted:

Better idea: Make a pay blog full of graphic content called "Degenerate Media." Get that patreon money coming in, and now they have an excuse for looking at the gay porn.

There was a Tumblr user who suggested posting futanari porn next to long rambling NRx quotes and calling it "Futarchy"

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I'm pretty sure all the NRxes who talk about cuckolding all the time have that as a fetish. Maybe they haven't admitted it to themselves but it's an obsession.

They're just like the anti-gay politicians who get caught having sex with male prostitutes in airport bathrooms.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

Maxwell Lord posted:

I'm pretty sure all the NRxes who talk about cuckolding all the time have that as a fetish. Maybe they haven't admitted it to themselves but it's an obsession.

They're just like the anti-gay politicians who get caught having sex with male prostitutes in airport bathrooms.

Yeah it doesn't take much deep probing to see the self-loathing nerd poo poo at the heart of all this cuck nonsense. If you don't see yourself as a truly "masculine" man, you're probably going to both overcompensate like crazy (The Mannerbund!!) and also fantasize about an idealized and objectified hypermasculine archetype (I.e. The Black Guy).

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
I enjoy that the alt-right has redefined "cuckolding" from "a woman cheating on her husband" to "an unattached white woman having sex with, or being in the same room as, a black man." Clearly this uppity darkey is stealing the rightful future property of SOME white guy, somewhere.... perhaps a certain handsome fellow with a skull on his bookshelf and an unlit cigarette in his hand???

I will enjoy it even more when Aurini's chrome dome explodes like the galaxy's greasiest death star when Episode 8 features a gay romance between Finn and Poe instead of the expected straight love triangle.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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I have good news for you (spoilers for Ep VIII):



Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Clearly this uppity darkey is stealing the rightful future property of SOME white guy, somewhere....[/spoiler].

Now you know what "purity balls" are for.

Vorpal Cat
Mar 19, 2009

Oh god what did I just post?

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

I will enjoy it even more when Aurini's chrome dome explodes like the galaxy's greasiest death star when Episode 8 features a gay romance between Finn and Poe instead of the expected straight love triangle.

Ahh the rare and dangerous reverse Legend of Korra maneuver, only the most devious or suicidal agents of the Cathedral would even dream of attempting it.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Woolie Wool posted:

Now you know what "purity balls" are for.

That's just a straightforward pseudoincest thing.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

Nessus posted:

I have good news for you (spoilers for Ep VIII):





This rules so hard.

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine
That cartoon has got St. Rev very mad. It's quite pathetic, really.

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/680874654387560448

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


I'm struggling to even understand his second claim; how is describing a guy who means well but avoids calling other men out on sexist poo poo "bdsm roleplay"?

E:

Ahah, his next tweet:

quote:

The point of the build to #8: Nothing is good enough except total submissive devotion to the cause, with telepathic precision.

Well, ask a silly question...

Doc Hawkins has a new favorite as of 02:51 on Dec 27, 2015

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Merdifex posted:

That cartoon has got St. Rev very mad. It's quite pathetic, really.

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/680874654387560448

The craving to annihilate/be annihilated. This is some serious for-real hate speech.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

The Vosgian Beast posted:

The craving to annihilate/be annihilated. This is some serious for-real hate speech.

I want to be William S Burroughs so bad, but I am just a dude who gets angry at people on the internet for getting angry at people on the internet.

GottaPayDaTrollToll
Dec 3, 2009

by Lowtax
What the hell is "epistemic evaporative cooling"? I know that crowd likes to use "epistemic closure" as a fancy term for groupthink, is this some kind of mutation of that?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:

What the hell is "epistemic evaporative cooling"? I know that crowd likes to use "epistemic closure" as a fancy term for groupthink, is this some kind of mutation of that?

Welcome to post-rationalism, where we misuse scientific terminology and apply it to philosophical and sociological terms in our discussions because we refuse to use terminology from the evil prog chtulhu memes found in sociology and philosophy.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Outright big word salad is now a valid debate tactic for the NRx! Everyone please get on my level and only argue on the exudate of the quasistable iso-spin harmonics, or you're obviously mindkilled and can be ignored completely.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

I will enjoy it even more when Aurini's chrome dome explodes like the galaxy's greasiest death star when Episode 8 features a gay romance between Finn and Poe instead of the expected straight love triangle.

Aurini is openly bisexual.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

DStecks posted:

Aurini is openly bisexual.

Was he the one that was also against gay marriage because gays should only be spartan man-hunks who angerfuck each other or was that someone else...

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:

What the hell is "epistemic evaporative cooling"? I know that crowd likes to use "epistemic closure" as a fancy term for groupthink, is this some kind of mutation of that?

Pretty sure it's talking about how radical groups become ever more radical as they slowly lose the less crazy members. Ex. Free Republic. I've got no idea if it's appropriate here.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Patrick Spens posted:

Pretty sure it's talking about how radical groups become ever more radical as they slowly lose the less crazy members. Ex. Free Republic. I've got no idea if it's appropriate here.

I think it might be the opposite, due to his obsession with a narrative about the evil progs taking over everything with their evil prig prog cthulhu memes.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Was he the one that was also against gay marriage because gays should only be spartan man-hunks who angerfuck each other or was that someone else...

Pretty sure Aurini's not that kind of gayservative.

Also,

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

I enjoy that the alt-right has redefined "cuckolding" from "a woman cheating on her husband" to "an unattached white woman having sex with, or being in the same room as, a black man." Clearly this uppity darkey is stealing the rightful future property of SOME white guy, somewhere.... perhaps a certain handsome fellow with a skull on his bookshelf and an unlit cigarette in his hand???

Isn't quite right. This sense of the word "cuckolding" would make them the "cucks", and they never use it like that. Cuck is an interesting slur in that it's used to imply that a man is complicit in his own victimization; whoever called it another word for "race traitor" was dead on the money. They don't use it to target the "real oppressors", but the people they think ought to be on their side.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


"Everyone who disagrees with me and is white is sexually inadequate" - daring thinkers we must take seriously

GottaPayDaTrollToll
Dec 3, 2009

by Lowtax

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Welcome to post-rationalism, where we misuse scientific terminology and apply it to philosophical and sociological terms in our discussions because we refuse to use terminology from the evil prog chtulhu memes found in sociology and philosophy.

I wonder how quickly a political philosophy oriented version of VX Junkies would be overrun by people who took it seriously.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

DStecks posted:

Isn't quite right. This sense of the word "cuckolding" would make them the "cucks", and they never use it like that. Cuck is an interesting slur in that it's used to imply that a man is complicit in his own victimization; whoever called it another word for "race traitor" was dead on the money. They don't use it to target the "real oppressors", but the people they think ought to be on their side.
Yeah, the NRx use of "cuck" owes a lot more to the kink-related sense of the word, a guy who gets off on his wife sleeping with other men (specifically black men). The man is complicit in his own victimization because he's initially in a position of power (marriage) but willingly and self-destructively gives it up for their own perverse, degenerate enjoyment. Hence cuckservatives, who (secretly?) value white male supremacy but are willing to mortgage it for the sake of perverse liberal values. Race traitors, as you say.

I mean, whatever. So far so racist. The problem is the media examples don't make any sense. Complaining about cucks in Star Wars and that kids' show that they were all bitching about last year is bizarre because they don't fit into ANY definition of cuck or cuckoldry or whatever. The woman isn't in a relationship with anyone. Nobody is self-destructing or self-abasing for any reason. NRx types just see some interaction, not necessarily even a romantic one, between a white woman and a black man and assume that it only happens because a white dude is allowing it to.

Aurini posted:

-and the first rule for being a Black Bull is that she makes the rules. Grunt for her, monkey boy: the Cuck’s all Ego, and you’re nothing but Id. The female Superego is your true master.
There's no "race traitor" here besides the white woman, whose superego is apparently driven by an insatiable lust for hard black cock. Is JJ Abrams the cuck? Should be getting his Pygmalion on with a fictional character from his movie?

I mean I'm not sure why I'm writing all these words on why Aurini's a racist shitbag who doesn't know what words mean, seeing as he refers to the black character as "monkey boy" and "Mace Dindu" in that post, but whatever.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

I mean, whatever. So far so racist. The problem is the media examples don't make any sense. Complaining about cucks in Star Wars and that kids' show that they were all bitching about last year is bizarre because they don't fit into ANY definition of cuck or cuckoldry or whatever. The woman isn't in a relationship with anyone.

Yes, but try to see it how they see it. The woman is implicitly the property of the white man even if no relationship is established, because of many factors including the expectation that "the hero gets the girl in the end". A critical factor here is that the men shouting loudest about cucks are dateless losers, generally the type to pine after every woman in their gravity well. Their minds are conditioned to perceiving these women as theirs, even if they will never make an attempt at a relationship with them; the right to the attempt, the "dibs", as it were, are theirs, so the object of their affection engaging in a relationship becomes an act of cuckoldry.


Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

There's no "race traitor" here besides the white woman, whose superego is apparently driven by an insatiable lust for hard black cock. Is JJ Abrams the cuck? Should be getting his Pygmalion on with a fictional character from his movie?

I mean I'm not sure why I'm writing all these words on why Aurini's a racist shitbag who doesn't know what words mean, seeing as he refers to the black character as "monkey boy" and "Mace Dindu" in that post, but whatever.

I don't think Aurini means "cuck" here in the same way that it's supplanted SJW as a slur, this looks more like a literal discussion of women in interracial relationships, where like as above, by participating in such they engage in theft of property from white men. Aurini calling the woman "your true master" as the conclusion, the final insult, is incredibly telling: her sin isn't in choosing the black man, it's in choosing at all.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:


I mean, whatever. So far so racist. The problem is the media examples don't make any sense. Complaining about cucks in Star Wars and that kids' show that they were all bitching about last year is bizarre because they don't fit into ANY definition of cuck or cuckoldry or whatever. The woman isn't in a relationship with anyone. Nobody is self-destructing or self-abasing for any reason. NRx types just see some interaction, not necessarily even a romantic one, between a white woman and a black man and assume that it only happens because a white dude is allowing it to.


It's the internet, any and all descriptive terminology, even the dumb racist stuff, will be distorted out of usefulness by morons with axes to grind.

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Oligopsony
May 17, 2007

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Was he the one that was also against gay marriage because gays should only be spartan man-hunks who angerfuck each other or was that someone else...

You might be thinking of someone named Jack Donovan, but then I'm going to go out on a very secure, well-fastened limb and say there are probably a bunch of them who meet that exact description.

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