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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Aesop Poprock posted:

Molecular gastronomy is already becoming a dirty word to foodies and chefs and similar so I'd only give it a few years until it's mostly relegated to jokes. It's a thing that can be done interestingly and well but I'd say the majority of the time it's definitely gimmicky, mostly because there are way too many people attempting it who don't have the exact combo of elite chef skills, understanding of cooking science and creativity to pull it off

What I've noticed more has been molecular gastronomy techniques (like dusts and foams or liquid nitrogen freezing) simply being incorporated into dishes at more traditional restaurants without specifically calling it such. Instead of being a gimmick to attract customers, it's just becoming one more set of techniques for a chef to use.

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titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

poop dood posted:

it's satisfying though not exactly ingratiating to shake and strain a shot of Jack Daniels and serve it in a martini glass.

I would like to see this served to someone once in my lifetime.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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chitoryu12 posted:

What I've noticed more has been molecular gastronomy techniques (like dusts and foams or liquid nitrogen freezing) simply being incorporated into dishes at more traditional restaurants without specifically calling it such. Instead of being a gimmick to attract customers, it's just becoming one more set of techniques for a chef to use.

Isn't a huge aspect of molecular gastronomy syncretizing various techniques already extant in world cuisines? I can imagine that pan-cultural culinary fusion is making some "exotic" techniques much more familiar to the average cook.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


titties posted:

I would like to see this served to someone once in my lifetime.

I kind of want to try ordering it just to see if anyone will actually do it or if I just end up with an ordinary glass.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Brawnfire posted:

Isn't a huge aspect of molecular gastronomy syncretizing various techniques already extant in world cuisines? I can imagine that pan-cultural culinary fusion is making some "exotic" techniques much more familiar to the average cook.

As an example, "foams" are just taking advantage of the same mechanisms that create whipped cream and meringue. In this case, you're basically whipping agar or lecithin with flavoring. So very old technique, but applied in a unique manner. I'm not sure about others, though. Stuff like liquid nitrogen or the "anti-griddle" freezing plate are just creative applications of making stuff cold, which is prehistoric. Stuff like transglutaminase "meat glue" or spherification dates back to the 1950s, though.

One place I can immediately think of that uses molecular gastronomy techniques in a traditional restaurant setting is the Jungle Cruise Skipper's Canteen, a new restaurant that opened at the Magic Kingdom last week. Much of the menu is traditional like char siu pork and falafel, but they incorporate some more unusual techniques. Like the Schweitzer Slush (named after Dr. Slush) is a boba-style slush that incorporates lime gel balls. For the record, it's probably the best restaurant in the park.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

titties posted:

I would like to see this served to someone once in my lifetime.

You haven't seen anything until you've seen somebody order a Calvert Dry Martini.

Calvert is the rail gin that tastes like juniper-scented acetone

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

chitoryu12 posted:

I dunno, molecular gastronomy still makes edible food. It's weird, but tastes normal. It's not easy to make weird gelatin concoctions taste good, especially when they incorporate savory components or use aspic.
I picked up a critical sausage x-mas gift at a shop that does a brisk business in head cheese molds, so gelatin is still right there with molecular gastronomy in being a useful toolkit for someone who knows what they are doing. Its just the entertaining and timeless bits are going to end up the worst.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Number 1 Sexy Dad posted:

People who drink jack are stupid anyway

Rude. Though Evan Williams is good too.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Manuel Calavera posted:

Rude. Though Evan Williams is good too.

Evan Williams and Ezra Brooks are definitely top of the bottom shelf whiskies and I've probably drank more of them than any other liquor combined. Ezra Brooks is funnier cause they sometimes come with fishing lures or carabineer flashlights like they think they're an outdoorsy drink for some reason and should come with happy meal toys

Nolan Arenado
May 8, 2009

Merry Christmas Anti-Food Porn Thread. My girlfriend and I are fairly far away from family so it was just us for Christmas and we decided to go check out an all you can eat lunch buffet at a highly rated Indian restaurant in the neighborhood. The food was delicious but when I looked down at my plate all I could think of was this thread. :)

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

OctoberBlues posted:

Merry Christmas Anti-Food Porn Thread. My girlfriend and I are fairly far away from family so it was just us for Christmas and we decided to go check out an all you can eat lunch buffet at a highly rated Indian restaurant in the neighborhood. The food was delicious but when I looked down at my plate all I could think of was this thread. :)

All those :words: and no pics. Weak. Glad you and yours had what seemed to be an enjoyable Christmas though.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!
Indian curry always looks like baby food/vomit. Very delicious, but looks unappealing to the uninitiated.

Winter Stormer
Oct 17, 2012

Samizdata posted:

All those :words: and no pics. Weak.

It's Indian food. Use your imagination and/or Google your favorite Indian dishes!

Here're some rubber dice served in the contents of a cow's stomach.


Third result on GIS for saag paneer

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Merry Christmas, goons! I am roasting a boneless lamb shoulder for tonight, along with making a roasted tomato and mozzarella risotto. Second batch of shortbread is in the oven and the hummus is done; gotta make the butternut squash and cheddar dip.

Still not sure how I'm going to make the broccoli I bought as a token healthy item.

I plan to start drinking in about three hours, so this should be a disaster. The only dinner guest is a forums mod so I will probably burn the roast, qualify for this thread, and end up banned. :ohdear:


content:
here are some celebratory Christmas grossnesses for you! http://munchies.vice.com/articles/you-think-fruitcake-is-gross

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Re: molecular gastronomy

WHAT THE gently caress





AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

cash crab posted:

Re: molecular gastronomy

WHAT THE gently caress







The one in the middle is deconstructed eggs benedict, isn't it? I remember seeing Wylie Dufresne making it in some foodie show. Probably Mind of a Chef.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


AnonSpore posted:

The one in the middle is deconstructed eggs benedict, isn't it? I remember seeing Wylie Dufresne making it in some foodie show. Probably Mind of a Chef.

I do not like futuristic eggs and foam
I do not like them
Leave me alone

Agricola Frigidus
Feb 7, 2010
Molecular gastronomy is a lot like a Frank Gehry building: form over function, enjoyable merely due to a novelty factor, and you got the nagging feeling somewhere someone - most likely yourself - paid way too much.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I catch up with this thread after five months, and no one's been getting into the Christmas spirit? Have some cookies, freshly baked with lots of hate.



death .cab for qt posted:

Yeah "up" drinks refer to drinks in a stemmed glass, often a Martini as most people recognize the glass. "Straight up" is a joke where I work and when people ask for their booze or something that way and they're a regular I just give it to them in a chilled stemmed glass.
Friend of mine once ordered something "up", watched the bartender put a glass in front of him, put in some ice, take it back out, and said "I don't think 'up' means what I thought it meant."

So, it's been a long while since that was the hot topic in this thread, but apparently my girlfriend ordered some of these Japanese DIY candy kits. Only trouble is that we don't own a microwave. If we figure something out, I'll be sure to let you know.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013


There is a 0% chance I could eat this without Nicolas Cage force feeding it down my throat

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

bringmyfishback posted:

shortbread is in the oven
:swoon:

The cheap, pre-packaged shortbread that they left on my nightstand at the places I stayed visiting the UK were way, way more tender and buttery than anything I've had here at home. I can only dream of warm home-made shortbread, my baking is lovely.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

titties posted:

:swoon:

The cheap, pre-packaged shortbread that they left on my nightstand at the places I stayed visiting the UK were way, way more tender and buttery than anything I've had here at home. I can only dream of warm home-made shortbread, my baking is lovely.

Shortbread is literally the easiest cookie to make ever. Soften butter, dump sugar and flour in, blend, put in pan, bake. DONE.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

titties posted:

:swoon:

The cheap, pre-packaged shortbread that they left on my nightstand at the places I stayed visiting the UK were way, way more tender and buttery than anything I've had here at home. I can only dream of warm home-made shortbread, my baking is lovely.

Theres an explanation for that.
They are more butter than shortbread.

Arivia posted:

Shortbread is literally the easiest cookie to make ever. Soften butter, dump sugar and flour in, blend, put in pan, bake. DONE.

The technique is really what makes or breaks a good shortbread/tart crusts/various related doughs. Too little kneading/incorporation it comes out mealy, too much and it comes out dry.

Rigged Death Trap has a new favorite as of 13:08 on Dec 26, 2015

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

titties posted:

:swoon:

The cheap, pre-packaged shortbread that they left on my nightstand at the places I stayed visiting the UK were way, way more tender and buttery than anything I've had here at home. I can only dream of warm home-made shortbread, my baking is lovely.

Dead simple, I swear to you. As long as you use decent butter, they're impossible to mess up.

BTW not banned yet, although I was unhappy with the risotto.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Winter Stormer posted:

It's Indian food. Use your imagination and/or Google your favorite Indian dishes!

Here're some rubber dice served in the contents of a cow's stomach.


Third result on GIS for saag paneer

Never had Indian food. Never had the apparent joy of living anywhere with Indian restaurants.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
Even the boil-in-bag kind I've had is great.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

My Lovely Horse posted:

So, it's been a long while since that was the hot topic in this thread, but apparently my girlfriend ordered some of these Japanese DIY candy kits. Only trouble is that we don't own a microwave. If we figure something out, I'll be sure to let you know.

How can you not own a microwave?

theres a will theres moe
Jan 10, 2007


Hair Elf
Microwaves should have died off last millenium with meat-gelatin loafs and the ubiquity of canned vegetables.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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I will never understand the appeal of foams. They always remind me of this:



Spittlebug nymphs make a sappy foam case on plant stems to protect themselves. Which is cool but highly not food.

I get that it's the same concept as whipped cream, but the presentation is just so off. I have never seen it not look like a big plop of dish soap dripped onto the plate. Truly anti food porn.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Samizdata posted:

Never had Indian food. Never had the apparent joy of living anywhere with Indian restaurants.

Indian food is pretty consistently awesome. It almost always looks like diarrhea on a plate but tastes amazing.

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Number 1 Sexy Dad posted:

Microwaves should have died off last millenium with meat-gelatin loafs and the ubiquity of canned vegetables.

Microwaves are an incredibly useful cooking tool. They make melting chocolate, boiling milk, melting butter, and many other tasks much quicker. Now, as a primary method of cooking, there are better options, but there is definitely a place for a microwave in a kitchen.

theres a will theres moe
Jan 10, 2007


Hair Elf

SymmetryrtemmyS posted:

Microwaves are an incredibly useful cooking tool. They make melting chocolate, boiling milk, melting butter, and many other tasks much quicker. Now, as a primary method of cooking, there are better options, but there is definitely a place for a microwave in a kitchen.

I agree with your meaning but I estimate pull out of my rear end that the microwave is way more-often used to reheat pizza or prepare terrible frozen foods, and that the device is probably a net-negative, culinarily, on society. That is, if you're measuring the purposes/results to which the device is most often used.

But the same could probably be said of a range.

So, touche.

Here's some ugly food:


I do not know what it is.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Number 1 Sexy Dad posted:

I agree with your meaning but I estimate pull out of my rear end that the microwave is way more-often used to reheat pizza or prepare terrible frozen foods, and that the device is probably a net-negative, culinarily, on society. That is, if you're measuring the purposes/results to which the device is most often used.

But the same could probably be said of a range.

So, touche.

Here's some ugly food:


I do not know what it is.

Every time I hear technology being derided as "bad for society" I start hearing you talk about going uphill both ways and liking it.

theres a will theres moe
Jan 10, 2007


Hair Elf

chitoryu12 posted:

Every time I hear technology being derided as "bad for society" I start hearing you talk about going uphill both ways and liking it.

I'm not old enough to be a microwave luddite

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Microwaves are useful because they're small, cheap, and fast. They allow people who don't have a lot of money to cook a hot meal when living in a small space, especially in areas where fresh foods are anything but cheap and available.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Number 1 Sexy Dad posted:

Microwaves should have died off last millenium with meat-gelatin loafs and the ubiquity of canned vegetables.

Microwaves are great for leftovers, thawing, and anything that you actually want to accomplish in a reasonable amount of time.

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Whoa, microwaves are used to reheat small amounts of cold food? I had no idea. Mind: blown.

loving weirdos.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Scathach posted:

Whoa, microwaves are used to reheat small amounts of cold food? I had no idea. Mind: blown.

Some people use them wrong, though, therefore they should have died off years ago.

*spends ten minutes heating a can of soup on the stove*

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Scathach posted:

Whoa, microwaves are used to reheat small amounts of cold food? I had no idea. Mind: blown.

loving weirdos.



This is the part where I say "would," right?

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AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
Is it possible for a cake to be too moist

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