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Drake_263 posted:I wouldn't say the iEagle is better than the Eagle - it's more of a rebalance. The Imperial Eagle is an Eagle with style. It's the S+ version of the Eagle. 
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To whoever told me that I should upgrade the frame shift device ASAP: THANK YOU. I can go from 5 or 6 systems to DOZENS now. It is loving ridiculous. I may actually earn some money doing courier work, or whatever. BTW, missions suck balls and you can earn initial money much faster by keeping your eye on the navigation tab and going for wreckages/weak signal sources.
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Transmetropolitan posted:To whoever told me that I should upgrade the frame shift device ASAP: THANK YOU. The best thing about FSD upgrades is that your powerplant is basically not effected, since you have to stow hardpoints anyway to activate it. Regardless of ship power needs you should always have the biggest FSD you can afford.
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Transmetropolitan posted:To whoever told me that I should upgrade the frame shift device ASAP: THANK YOU.  It really is a nice feeling when all of inhabited space just kind of opens up for you.Pro-tip: you actually use much much less fuel making shorter jumps, so if you are running low and land at Non-scoop able star and can't make your next jump see if you can switch to an economical route - you'll be amazed how much you can stretch a tank of fuel out
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Transmetropolitan posted:Really helpful. Thanks! If you are scooping stuff and doing random smuggling type things then get an Adder or just save for a Cobra.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:If you are scooping stuff and doing random smuggling type things then get an Adder or just save for a Cobra. This, the adder is a lovely starter ship unless you plan to do combat only. Even then with its medium hardpoint and good maneuverability it can hold its own until you can afford the Cobra. I wouln't upgrade the sidewinder much except for the FSD, you're going to be out of it soon enough.
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So I wanna pick this up, but have no interest whatsoever in buying Horizons. Kind of seems like a very dodgy way of going about things and I don't like to even think about slapping down more than $20 on an Early Access game. But I'm interested in the base game, and have just been keeping an eye on it until I feel comfortable giving it a shot. What's the word on content support for the base game beyond the update that'll come with Horizons? Like I'd probably consider it if it were $30-$40 but it feels off trying to charge that much for an expansion, and also using Early Access on top of all of that. Arthil fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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Dec 26, 2015 21:16
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It's a fun and well-supported game. Buy it.
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Arthil posted:So I wanna pick this up, but have no interest whatsoever in buying Horizons. Kind of seems like a very dodgy way of going about things and I don't like to even think about slapping down more than $20 on an Early Access game. Careful now, you're going to trigger all the diehards who just don't understand why normies object to buying the Mako segments from ME1 for full-game price as an expansion to an unfinished game.  The problem with determining what new content will be gated behind Horizons is that very little new content has been announced. Some of what we know: -Looting and crafting is planned and 'some' elements of it will be available to non-Horizons players. -Multiple crew for ships, possibly including AI in addition to players, is planned. Unknown at this time what will be gated. -Character appearance customization is planned, also unknown what will be gated. Current speculation is that non-Horizons users will be able to choose from some limited options- kind of necessary if they get to take part in multi-crew, because people's faces are visible as long as the ship is pressurized- but that most options will be Horizons-only. -Fighter bays for ships are planned, a Horizons-only feature. However, any updates to the actual core gameplay, such as stat rebalances, the vast majority if not all new ships, updates to the mission system and to powerplay if they ever get around to it, will all be part of the main game. I don't think there's much worry about updates to the main game stopping. In some ways, a fortunate side-effect of Horizons having so little content is that it would be kinda hard to develop as its own thing, it's just some neat toys on top of the base game. Cathair fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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I think that I'll buy the base game on discount, there's not really a rush to buy Horizons and while I'm sure it's amazing going down into a planets atmosphere I'll have plenty to be in awe of cause it's space.
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If you like it you can always wait until Horizons is on sale too. It'll have more features by then anyway.
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Arthil posted:I think that I'll buy the base game on discount, there's not really a rush to buy Horizons and while I'm sure it's amazing going down into a planets atmosphere I'll have plenty to be in awe of cause it's space. Same, just bought it. $15 seems like a reasonable enough price.
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Yeah you can probably wait on Horizons for a year if it doesn't sing to you now. Probably get it as a bundle. For me the price of expansion (even without a discount) is like having a five dollar a month subscription, and I play more than five bux worth in a month. The diehard is coming from inside this post 
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Arthil posted:I think that I'll buy the base game on discount, there's not really a rush to buy Horizons and while I'm sure it's amazing going down into a planets atmosphere I'll have plenty to be in awe of cause it's space. Atmospheric landings aren't happening until the next expansion. Horizons only allows landing on airless rocks. The good part is that it seems they will be rolling things into one price, so 3-4 years down the line you'll be able to get everything by buying one expansion set. Naturally Selected fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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Naturally Selected posted:Atmospheric landings aren't happening until the next expansion. Horizons only allows landing on airless rocks. There has been no announcement of atmospheric landings or even any talk by Frontier about it besides "not on Horizons launch". The only thing they have said is "life" landable planets will be it's own expansion. They have not said anything about the next expansion at all. That said I wouldn't count on Horizons/2.0/this season including it, although I'm mildly optimistic about it. Planetary landings up until they officially announced it were seen as a wildly optimistic thing so they might do that again and shove atmospheric out during Horizons.
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Literally Kermit posted:The diehard is coming from inside this post Value is relative, it's no big deal until you've become one of the people trying to justify themselves by insisting that it should be a foregone conclusion for everyone. I'm no stranger to spending money on games with lots of problems because I enjoyed them regardless.  I go  about the squandered potential of this game, and Frontier being stuck in the stone age of game design factors heavily into how much money I'm willing to give them just on principle. But is the base game worth it for $15, just as it stands? Yeah, I'd say so. And I look forward to buying Horizons on deep discount a year or so from now, it will probably be worth it then.
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I picked up a hostage rescue mission, got the hostage, went back to the station, but I can't turn in the cargo. Is this a known issue by chance? If so, I'm going to space the hostage and blow them up, so it is a win/win either way.
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KakerMix posted:There has been no announcement of atmospheric landings or even any talk by Frontier about it besides "not on Horizons launch". The only thing they have said is "life" landable planets will be it's own expansion. They have not said anything about the next expansion at all. my own stupid theory is that next season is going to be ambulation, with it launching with moving around in ships and EVA repairs, with FPS stuff to happen down the road later in the season, and then atmospheric landings in two years. I base this on nothing. Bushiz fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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TheDK posted:I picked up a hostage rescue mission, got the hostage, went back to the station, but I can't turn in the cargo. Is this a known issue by chance? If so, I'm going to space the hostage and blow them up, so it is a win/win either way. Yes, that's a known bug. Many of the new missions are buggy, general concensus is don't take any of the ones that require a specific NPC to spawn, in addition to hostage missions. I haven't had much trouble with them but apparently even assassinations can be broke now.
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i love peepin planets in this game, i found one that was clearly experiencing a ice age and i went "woah, they are having a ice age" ice age on that planet bitches i hope they don't go bankrupt and sell the game to the russian mafia before i can land on them and peep the ice age ice age
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TheDK posted:I picked up a hostage rescue mission, got the hostage, went back to the station, but I can't turn in the cargo. Is this a known issue by chance? If so, I'm going to space the hostage and blow them up, so it is a win/win either way. It probably needs a specific hostage, so make sure you get all of them out of the kidnappers ship. It might also fail the mission if you blow up the kidnapper, but I'm not sure on that.
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Cathair posted:I go It's more potential full stop in my view, since it's hopefully nowhere near finished. tooterfish fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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Bushiz posted:my own stupid theory is that next season is going to be ambulation, with it launching with moving around in ships and EVA repairs, with FPS stuff to happen down the road later in the season, and then atmospheric landings in two years. I base this on nothing. Atmospheric planets would be 'easier' in the sense that they already have the ability to generate them (with Stellar Forge), ~all they need~ is atmospheric flight models, weather effects and sound design. There isn't anything inherently new with atmo planets since the hardest part is building on what they already have. They have never said anything about FPS elements besides Braben getting all starry-eyed about hunting alien animals on planets. The reason I'm hopeful about atmospheric landings happening this season is it isn't a big enough thing to be a whole other expansion (you can land on planets, IN THE RAIN!!!) vs something fundamental like space legs or earth-like world landings and all their cities or hunting alien buffalo. Again, we'll see. There was lots of early talk when Horizons was first revealed about how they were working on it right after Elite: Dangerous launched in Dec. 2014 so it stands to reason that whatever the next expansion is already being worked on.
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If they want to do atmospheres properly they'll have to work out methods for procedurally modelling things like surface erosion, so it's not quite as simple as changing the flight model and sticking in some clouds. And I'd hope they'd want to do it properly, given the effort they've already put into planet generation.
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Is there a way to tell if a mission is gonna be multipart? The description doesn't always (rarely) mention it. I just did a "deliver 2 superconductors to X hey that sounds neat to do before i log off for the night" mission, that turned into find 5 domestic appliances, into FIND MORE poo poo and i went "no i'm done for now lol". Wish there weren't timers cause it'll just be "failed" when i want to play again.
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Dongattack posted:Is there a way to tell if a mission is gonna be multipart? The description doesn't always (rarely) mention it. I just did a "deliver 2 superconductors to X hey that sounds neat to do before i log off for the night" mission, that turned into find 5 domestic appliances, into FIND MORE poo poo and i went "no i'm done for now lol". Wish there weren't timers cause it'll just be "failed" when i want to play again. There's usually 4 dots under the icon for multipart missions. KakerMix posted:Atmospheric planets would be 'easier' in the sense that they already have the ability to generate them (with Stellar Forge), ~all they need~ is atmospheric flight models, weather effects and sound design. There isn't anything inherently new with atmo planets since the hardest part is building on what they already have. They have never said anything about FPS elements besides Braben getting all starry-eyed about hunting alien animals on planets. The reason I'm hopeful about atmospheric landings happening this season is it isn't a big enough thing to be a whole other expansion (you can land on planets, IN THE RAIN!!!) vs something fundamental like space legs or earth-like world landings and all their cities or hunting alien buffalo. I'd like to think we'd get Mars-like atmospheric planets as part of Horizons, but don't get inhabited/Earthlikes until another expansion
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After about 20 hours I finally "got" the game. It's a pretty sweet game.
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Icedude posted:There's usually 4 dots under the icon for multipart missions. Ah, got it. Man, i gotta say there are A LOT of important little things that this game never even tries to learn you.
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Hey is there a way to switch out the SRV you're using? I have more SRVs than I strictly need but I only see one in the drop-down and it's starting to get low on fuel. I am NOT near a system to refuel.
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Only way is to blow up and respawn in your ship. SRV's are more like ammo than they are separate vehicles. Or you could scoop some sulfur and phosphorus and refuel yourself that way.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Only way is to blow up and respawn in your ship. SRV's are more like ammo than they are separate vehicles. Yeah I figured I'd have to blow them up, because of course that makes sense. I haven't actually looked at the resource cost for making fuel but I tend to spend more time just driving around than collecting stuff.
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Blow up your poo poo if you want, no one's stopping you. Before you do, you might want to check out the "Select Vehicle" option in the SRV menu though. I mean, it's right there next to Deploy so you've definitely both seen it!
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Plek posted:Hey is there a way to switch out the SRV you're using? I have more SRVs than I strictly need but I only see one in the drop-down and it's starting to get low on fuel. I am NOT near a system to refuel.
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Plek posted:Yeah I figured I'd have to blow them up, because of course that makes sense. I haven't actually looked at the resource cost for making fuel but I tend to spend more time just driving around than collecting stuff. My Python has two SRVs and I can choose which one to deploy from the ship. So as long as you are willing to return to your ship/recall it every time you want to switch, you can change which one to use. EFB
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If we get atmospheric landings, fps is the last thing that I want. I want the ability to build a log cabin, claim a patch of land and play space farmer.
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Xtanstic posted:If we get atmospheric landings, fps is the last thing that I want. I want the ability to build a log cabin, claim a patch of land and play space farmer. If we ever get that far, I'll start filling up my exploration-ship with plants and animals I collect from alien planets. Maybe I even toss strange alien artefacts into my private zoo if I feel like it.
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Atmospheric landings is probably the #1 thing I'm excited for. I wish it were coming this season, but they probably would've announced it if so.
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For the person asking about streaming, I have my own channel at http://hitbox.tv/angrymog and Elite is one of the games in my usual rotation, and we have just started up the Diamond Frogs channel at http://www.twitch.tv/elitediamondfrogs which will be either showing hosted Goons or native streams.
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