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tooterfish posted:If they want to do atmospheres properly they'll have to work out methods for procedurally modelling things like surface erosion, so it's not quite as simple as changing the flight model and sticking in some clouds. And I'd hope they'd want to do it properly, given the effort they've already put into planet generation. I just assume that stellar Forge already accounts for this, they just don't use that information yet ala Horizons planetary generation. Regardless of the difficulty in doing it, for a new expansion sell it would be tough. What does lifeless atmospheric planets have to offer to make it worth buying if it's to be its own expansion? Horizons has taken the "wow" already, atmosphere is a much more subtle thing.
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tooterfish posted:Blow up your poo poo if you want, no one's stopping you. Well gently caress me. It didn't register in my head that it would let me pick the SRV since I only saw the one displayed. I thought that would pick between different types of vehicles. Xtanstic posted:If we get atmospheric landings, fps is the last thing that I want. I want the ability to build a log cabin, claim a patch of land and play space farmer. Some sort of colonization/outpost building would be pretty welcome, honestly. With as many planets exist you'd think they could let players set up their own settlements without having to worry about finding space. Plek fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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KakerMix posted:I just assume that stellar Forge already accounts for this, they just don't use that information yet ala Horizons planetary generation. Regardless of the difficulty in doing it, for a new expansion sell it would be tough. What does lifeless atmospheric planets have to offer to make it worth buying if it's to be its own expansion? Horizons has taken the "wow" already, atmosphere is a much more subtle thing. What I mean is: atmospheres erode planet surfaces in various ways over time (flowing liquids, weather systems etc), so for their surface generation to have the same verisimilitude as airless surfaces do now, it'd need to take all that into account just like it does for things like the tectonics and meteor impacts. Then you've got the actual atmospheres on top of that, active weather systems and poo poo... It's a lot more work than you'd think at first. I just can't see Frontier half arsing it, not their planet generation. I agree it definitely doesn't seem like a headliner feature, I reckon there's still plenty of scope for "wow" though.
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Regarding Horizons, I only got it for christmas and I've had some nice experiences with it. Nice enough to inspire me to start writing logs. First one's up here http://inara.cz/cmdr-logbook/10654 Highlight images:  Appearances...  Can be decieving.  They sure do need a lot of weapons around here.  And dumb fools to fire them.  Binary moons are cool.  You can practically reach out and touch it!  Alas poor buggy, I knew you not.
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Plek posted:Well gently caress me. It didn't register in my head that it would let me pick the SRV since I only saw the one displayed. I thought that would pick between different types of vehicles. Something like mining outposts would even make sense and provide a logical route to making the mechanic profitable. Buy some ships and outfit them to protect the settlement, but you have to manually go there with a hauler to get your materials, then go back and sell them.
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Libluini posted:If we ever get that far, I'll start filling up my exploration-ship with plants and animals I collect from alien planets. Maybe I even toss strange alien artefacts into my private zoo if I feel like it. Player economy finally implemented in the game as in the space future we return to an animal bartering system. I'll trade you two goats for your frog.
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I've never been great at these games, but I've really been feeling the itch for a modern TIE Fighter and exploring space seems cool. How much of a handicap will I be at if I grab the base game at $14 instead of getting Horizons? $14 is a much safer investment on something I might wind up sucking at and uninstalling after a week, but if it's all going to be outdated and unplayable anyway, I'll just save up and maybe grab Horizons during the next sale.
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Hellburger99 posted:I've never been great at these games, but I've really been feeling the itch for a modern TIE Fighter and exploring space seems cool. How much of a handicap will I be at if I grab the base game at $14 instead of getting Horizons? $14 is a much safer investment on something I might wind up sucking at and uninstalling after a week, but if it's all going to be outdated and unplayable anyway, I'll just save up and maybe grab Horizons during the next sale. You will not be gimped. Get the base version. Come play and see if it's your thing. If you like it, with the loyalty discount, Horizons is 45$.
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Hellburger99 posted:I've never been great at these games, but I've really been feeling the itch for a modern TIE Fighter and exploring space seems cool. How much of a handicap will I be at if I grab the base game at $14 instead of getting Horizons? $14 is a much safer investment on something I might wind up sucking at and uninstalling after a week, but if it's all going to be outdated and unplayable anyway, I'll just save up and maybe grab Horizons during the next sale. I'll echo the post above, get the base game now, and get the expansion later if you want it. At present, Horizons adds only planetary landings to the game (which is only a very small portion of the stuff you'll typically be doing in-game), but will eventually comprise all season 2 content. I wouldn't worry too much about not being competitive compared to other players, the nature of the game is that you will always be taking things at your own pace, and will typically not see others much, if at all.
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Is there a goto stick that isn't ridic expensive? I would prefer a split HOTAS if possible. If anyone has managed to get this working through steam stream that would be great to know, because it would mean I can run trade missions on the sofa laptop.
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Does anyone know what the difference is between buying Horizons and Horizons Beta? One is $10 more and I don't really know why, both have the exact same description.
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IcePheenix posted:Does anyone know what the difference is between buying Horizons and Horizons Beta? One is $10 more and I don't really know why, both have the exact same description. Horizons beta shouldn't be available any longer, that is weird.
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Iglocska posted:Horizons beta shouldn't be available any longer, that is weird. I guess that means I should buy not-beta for $10 cheaper then 
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IcePheenix posted:Does anyone know what the difference is between buying Horizons and Horizons Beta? One is $10 more and I don't really know why, both have the exact same description. If you buy beta you will have beta access to 2.1, 2.2, etc. Throughout the year. That's all.
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CancerCakes posted:Is there a goto stick that isn't ridic expensive? I would prefer a split HOTAS if possible. Thrustmaster hotas-x is good and like $45.
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Paramemetic posted:Thrustmaster hotas-x is good and like $45. Yeah you could get one from amazon with prime for like 33 bucks a few days ago and it was a newegg with shoprunner for like 40. I got one after it being recommended and its a great introductory stick. There's a binding set you can get from steam thats fairly competent since it uses the 3 thumb buttons on the throttle as modifiers for a bunch of things. Only thing I changed was adding a ui back bind and switching the role and yaw methods. Its way better than using a keyboard and mouse.
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It's more fun, anyhow. It took me a long while to become as good a pilot with my HOTAS as I was with M+K. If you know how to set up and work the keyboard with thrusters it is far more precise to fly like that. But the hotas is way, way more fun to fly.
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I'm kind of poo poo, but I couldn't imagine playing this without at least a single joystick and having a full HOTAS is just gravy. Though I was wondering if someone could give advice - the throttle on my X52-pro is bouncing back from something at full forward. It doesn't do it all the time, but mostly, and it's very annoying. I've tried fiddling with the force dial on the side but it doesn't do anything to adjust whatever its hitting inside. Is it time to take a screwdriver to the throttle and have a look inside? Angrymog fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Angrymog posted:I'm kind of poo poo, but I couldn't imagine playing this without at least a single joystick and having a full HOTAS is just gravy. I would assume the tangled mess of wires inside is catching and creating tension. Please open it up and show me what's inside mine.
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I have an old X-45 that had similar spiking problems in the stick. I've had good luck pulling it apart and spraying some WD-40 on the potentiometers.
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Mike the TV posted:I would assume the tangled mess of wires inside is catching and creating tension. Please open it up and show me what's inside mine. If past experience of peeking inside these things has taught me anything, the answer is: more hotglue than you'd believe possible
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So I have a hauling asp right now and it has like 116T of transport, I like it because I can land in outposts. Usually things like slaver missions have a big payout and they take you to outposts which are really easy to just drop off and find something new to do. I have enough money to get a Type 7, would straight up hauling between stations provide more resources for me than losing access to outposts and their goods/ slaver missions? Would it be better to grind the rep and a few more millions to get a iClipper? Should I say gently caress the hauling life and get a combat vulture?
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Keep saving for a Python.
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Angrymog posted:Though I was wondering if someone could give advice - the throttle on my X52-pro is bouncing back from something at full forward. It doesn't do it all the time, but mostly, and it's very annoying. I've tried fiddling with the force dial on the side but it doesn't do anything to adjust whatever its hitting inside. Is it time to take a screwdriver to the throttle and have a look inside? The throttle purposely has detents built in at 25% and 75%. You're not talking about those are you? In any case they're annoying and there are guides online to remove them. Given the spectre of Madcatz though, I'm leaving it alone until the warranty runs out just in case.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Should I say gently caress the hauling life and get a combat vulture? The ultimate answer is do what you'll keep having fun at. If you think it's time for a change of pace to combat then a Vulture would be the right choice at your current budget. Doing bounties in RES is also the best money maker next to long-range smuggling. From a money-making standpoint the Type-7 won't help much because hauling large volumes of regular goods isn't the way to get rich quick. The Asp you have is already arguably the best smuggling vessel in the game for the long-range stuff like Robigo.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:So I have a hauling asp right now and it has like 116T of transport, I like it because I can land in outposts. Usually things like slaver missions have a big payout and they take you to outposts which are really easy to just drop off and find something new to do. This. Grit your teeth and press on. Neither the type-7 or the iClipper can land at outposts; in fact, I don't think there's anything suitable for large hauling that can between Asp and Python. Plus, the python kicks rear end.
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timn posted:The throttle purposely has detents built in at 25% and 75%. You're not talking about those are you? Nope, it's past 75%, it def. feels like it's hitting something then bouncing back. Mines out of warranty so I might have a look in the new year.
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I think I've actually found hell.  
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For a newbie to get in on this Free Ships CG do they actually have to sign up for it at one of the two stations? Participate and haul a load? Or will every newbie in-game that meets the play-time window wake up to a free ship?
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If you are inside the free ship window to get the ship, you will get it. I don't think they would put it inside one of the two stations. I guess it'll be near the starting port in the game.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:I think I've actually found hell. lol at that atmosphere being 70% iron
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Kuvo posted:lol at that atmosphere being 70% iron See, that's the type of planet I want to land on. gently caress cities and alien life, I want to see some molten iron rain.
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59 earth masses 10G's 17k surface temp 83 million atmospheres The stupidest part? There are 13 T Tauri stars in this system as well.
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The atmospheric pressure there is greater than 23 times the pressure inside the Earth's core. The atmosphere being 70% iron is totally plausible in those conditions. 
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Sultan Tarquin posted:59 earth masses I'd say the stupidest part is the .1% ice composition of the surface.
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Maybe there's a really deep crater with a single ice cube in it.
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With that much pressure would water be ice at that temperature? I don't have a chart for that end of those two scales.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:With that much pressure would water be ice at that temperature? I don't have a chart for that end of those two scales. There are 17 types of ice  and there's a chart:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice#Phases The top of the chart is *Tera* pascals! Bonus points for being able to Google that (without using the word 'phases') and not have the top links be for Pokemon 
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Edit: ^^^^^ Ohhhhh never mind that is a much better phase diagram than the one I looked at. illBilliam fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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