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I want to do something crazy and make an all-melee Black Templars list where they roll up in land raider crusaders and go to work. Would they die before reaching their target? Most likely. Would it be hilarious? No, not really. Just expensive as gently caress.
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Star Man posted:I want to do something crazy and make an all-melee Black Templars list where they roll up in land raider crusaders and go to work. Would they die before reaching their target? Most likely. I mean, if they're all in Land Raiders they might actually make it, but doing something once they're in assault is the question.
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Dec 28, 2015 00:31
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SRM posted:I mean, if they're all in Land Raiders they might actually make it, but doing something once they're in assault is the question. I've played against it a couple of editions ago, and it really depends on the luck of the (penetration) die. It is kind of an all or nothing game, if you get 2 or 3 landraiders knocked out before you get there you might as well pack up.
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Dec 28, 2015 01:10
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big_g posted:I've been following this thread since its first incarnation burning spiders in the name of the Emperor in GBS, but rarely post as I tend to stick to the scale modelling thread. I've just been working on a Tau Ghostkeel though and as it's just about done I thought I would share some pictures. Just a small snagging list then it's done. gently caress me, this is a sexy stealthy robit. I love the super crisp digicamo on the back array. How did you do that? Just freehand?
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Dec 28, 2015 02:48
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ineptmule posted:gently caress me, this is a sexy stealthy robit. I love the super crisp digicamo on the back array. How did you do that? Just freehand? I airbrushed it with a pre-made masks it's the first time I've tried doing digi cam and I'm pretty happy with how it came out.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:21
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big_g posted:I've been following this thread since its first incarnation burning spiders in the name of the Emperor in GBS, but rarely post as I tend to stick to the scale modelling thread. I've just been working on a Tau Ghostkeel though and as it's just about done I thought I would share some pictures. Just a small snagging list then it's done. A good robot in a good post.
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Dec 28, 2015 10:41
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Star Man posted:I want to do something crazy and make an all-melee Black Templars list where they roll up in land raider crusaders and go to work. Would they die before reaching their target? Most likely. You're also spending a ridiculous amount of points on the Land Raiders themselves. Not that the tank won't put in work, and the Crusader is the most pro variant, but suddenly every squad is costing you 450 points and welp you ain't got enough dudes. That said, you should do it anyway. I've tried the same concept but with Deathwing Terminators, and it ate poo poo every time, but it was rad as hell.
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Dec 28, 2015 13:31
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The problem is that melee is just not an easy thing to pull off. You have to get across the board, hope your ride doesn't get blown to bits, and you've got to chase the unit you're after while they play keep away from the tank full of crusaders and a very angry Emperor's Champion. But it would be the bee's knees to pull it off once.
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Dec 28, 2015 13:49
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Caestus seems like the best way, plus it can hold 10 terminators.
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Dec 28, 2015 14:11
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Star Man posted:The problem is that melee is just not an easy thing to pull off. You have to get across the board, hope your ride doesn't get blown to bits, and you've got to chase the unit you're after while they play keep away from the tank full of crusaders and a very angry Emperor's Champion. One way to go is to go mostly Land Raiders, but also include a dangerous unit in a Drop Pod to confuse their target priority on the first turn/approach. Pop smoke and flat-out the Land Raiders and force them to choose which to deal with.
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Dec 28, 2015 14:28
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Bite the bullet and take a Skyhammer.
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Dec 28, 2015 15:43
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raverrn posted:Bite the bullet and take a Skyhammer. Seriously, if you want assault, this is one of the best ways to get it. Assault Marines aren't exactly world-endingly good, but assaulting on arrival is killer and you can use your Devastators to open up transports or wreck potential hazards for your infantry. It's just such a powerful and versatile Formation.
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Dec 28, 2015 16:30
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devestator centurion heavy bolters make very good underslung weapons for a land speeder
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Dec 28, 2015 17:04
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PierreTheMime posted:Seriously, if you want assault, this is one of the best ways to get it. Assault Marines aren't exactly world-endingly good, but assaulting on arrival is killer and you can use your Devastators to open up transports or wreck potential hazards for your infantry. It's just such a powerful and versatile Formation. What about with an ordo xenos inquisitor with rad grenades and a chaplain?
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Dec 28, 2015 17:05
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:What about with an ordo xenos inquisitor with rad grenades and a chaplain? It's a force multiplier, sure, but it's better not to put too much in one basket, especially in a meta where there's a good number of Interceptor weapons and strong Overwatch. Better to spread things out unless you enjoy losing everything in one go.
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Dec 28, 2015 17:20
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What about an ordo xenos inquisitor with rad grenades and a chaplain in a Caestus?
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Dec 28, 2015 18:10
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So I had some time today, and wanted to lay out my Catachan infantry to decide exactly how Hixson's new Squat recruits would fit in and be armed - don't want anyone sitting out on the sidelines of an Apoc battle because they were odd man out of a legal squad build. This turned into laying out my entire army for a group shot. This then turned into laying out ALL my armies for group shots. Here's 3,157pts of JP Regiment Catachan.  2,999pts of Catachan allies (Deathworlders, Mercenaries, Dendromancer and Jungle Daemons, Mechanicum Squats, Imperial Knight).  4,543pts of Craftworld Mata Nui Eldar (including 500pts of allied Wraithsuits using Tau Battlesuit rules).  And a mighty 6,857pts of Splinter Fleet Wyvern Tyranids (plus a few Genestealer Cultists to mix into Catachan/Eldar armies when allying).  ...guess I've spent a lot of time on this hobby, huh?
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Dec 29, 2015 05:44
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fukken owns
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Dec 29, 2015 06:09
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SRM posted:fukken owns
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Dec 29, 2015 09:20
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Great art but oh my god putting all those in and out of cases!
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Dec 29, 2015 14:28
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LingcodKilla posted:Great art but oh my god putting all those in and out of cases!  My Catachan live in a nice tackle box, so they're my grab-and-go army for away games.
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Dec 29, 2015 16:50
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BuffaloChicken posted:It's not bad, actually - I have a dresser right next to where the table sets up, and I'm working on laser-cut drawer inserts. Eventually I'll have a slot cut for every model, and a brief identifier (say, "FD" for Fire Dragons) written in each circle. Makes setup a breeze, and the models don't rattle around when opening/closing drawers. that's not a bad idea. where do you go to get that done?
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Dec 29, 2015 16:52
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:that's not a bad idea. where do you go to get that done? 
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Dec 29, 2015 17:03
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LingcodKilla posted:Great art but oh my god putting all those in and out of cases! A lot of nights when I go gaming I just bring my Dark Angels or whatever because I can't bring myself to haul three KR cases of Valhallans just to unload. So I got a bunch of old Orks, new in blister, in an eBay auction a while ago for a hell of a good deal. In there I found a few of the old Kannons, and since they're so cheap and fit the military theme of my Blood Axes, I had to put them together! Unfortunately the two blisters were both missing a grot gunner, so I called up GW and that same day a pair of resin Kannons were on their way, no questions asked! I also used the Forgeworld grot crew models to fill out some bodies in the squad, and they're wonderfully characterful models.     
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Dec 29, 2015 17:08
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:What about with an ordo xenos inquisitor with rad grenades and a chaplain? The assault marines won't be able to use their special rule in order to charge on the turn they Deep Strike onto the table if they have an IC attached, since the character doesn't have the special rule. I was thinking about attaching a Captain until I realized that it wouldn't work. They're still pretty useful though, especially against fragile fire support units.
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Dec 29, 2015 19:58
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Phyresis posted:The assault marines won't be able to use their special rule in order to charge on the turn they Deep Strike onto the table if they have an IC attached, since the character doesn't have the special rule. I was thinking about attaching a Captain until I realized that it wouldn't work. They're still pretty useful though, especially against fragile fire support units. IC rule says "While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes" First the Fire, then the Blade says "Assault Squads can charge even though they arrived from Reserves this turn", the IC is part of the Assault Squad per the IC rule, so the IC should be able to charge too.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:23
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:"While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes" Yeah, he counts as part of a unit in terms of like receiving unit-wide buffs/debuffs but he doesn't count as part of the Formation and will not benefit from First the Fire, then the Blade. And since he can't charge, the assault marines won't be able to charge. In fact, the assault marines wouldn't be able to use Shock Deployment to automatically come in from Reserves to begin with.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:26
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Phyresis posted:Yeah, he counts as part of a unit in terms of like receiving unit-wide buffs/debuffs but he doesn't count as part of the Formation and will not benefit from First the Fire, then the Blade. And since he can't charge, the assault marines won't be able to charge. dis 
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Dec 29, 2015 20:27
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Attaching an Independent Character to a unit does not confer that unit's special rules to the IC, except for those special rules which are explicitly conferred to a unit if "at least one" model in that unit has them (Acute Senses, Adamantium Will, Counter-attack, Crusader, Fearless, Hit & Run, Infiltrate, Monster Hunter, Move Through Cover, Night Vision, Outflank, Preferred Enemy, Shrouded, Scout, Skilled Rider, Slow and Purposeful, Split Fire, Stealth, Stubborn, Tank Hunters, Zealot)
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Dec 29, 2015 20:33
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Phyresis posted:Attaching an Independent Character to a unit does not confer that unit's special rules to the IC, except for those special rules which are explicitly conferred to a unit if "one or more" models in that unit have them. basis?
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Dec 29, 2015 20:35
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I think the classic example would be a unit with FNP joined by an IC.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:44
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:basis? That's just the rules of the game, which are of course explicit, not implicit. There's no general game mechanic that would allow such a thing. "While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes" just means that together they still form a "unit" for gameplay purposes; special rules exist (and are checked) on a model-per-model basis and many existing mixed units are comprised of models that have different special rules. Sometimes the veteran has an extra special rule or two, such as in the case of Eldar Aspect Warriors.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:46
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I mean I'm okay with it because the formation is dumb as gently caress but still
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Dec 29, 2015 20:52
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/collections-and-bundles/citadel-collections Interesting idea but I have no idea how much how you actually save from this considering the pretty decent pricetag on most of these. Although I noticed that there is no IG bundle. Not even one that combines the IG codex and the Scion one. Feels like a glaring oversight because I would've assumed IG had gotten a whole bunch of formations by now. Oh and they have apparently fixed the issue with the IG codex FAQ and made it into a proper PDF. Now only if they could make the FAQ page readily accessible on Black Library's website so I don't have to go through a newletter link to find it. Edit: One change. One goddamn change for this errata update. 
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Dec 29, 2015 22:53
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Cooked Auto posted:http://www.blacklibrary.com/collections-and-bundles/citadel-collections I see Tyranids for 90 bucks and was not expecting 1 codex and 2 supplements. Yikes! Could you imagine if Age of Sigmar wasn't "free"?
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Dec 29, 2015 23:18
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So I noticed an odd discrepancy, the Scion codex isn't available on the Black Library site but is via the GW store page.  LordAba posted:Could you imagine if Age of Sigmar wasn't "free"? Like the nay sayers even need any more fire.
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Dec 29, 2015 23:33
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First of my new Nightlords Chaos army. Maximum lightning claws! I expect to lose a lot of games, but at least they'll be pretty.    
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Dec 30, 2015 03:59
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You're gonna lose in style, that lightning is dope as gently caress.
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Dec 30, 2015 05:44
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That whole model is incredible. I love the color scheme, and the red on the face provides an awesome color contrast and a great focal point. Also:SRM posted:that lightning is dope as gently caress.
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Cooked Auto posted:http://www.blacklibrary.com/collections-and-bundles/citadel-collections Codex: Chaos Space Marines and Codex: Chaos Daemons are also missing from those bundles. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that those armies are getting new codices soon.
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