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You definitely want green even if it only had invigorate. E: Wait, that's for legacy, my bad.
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If you want to play competitive infect, yes, blue green is pretty well proven in all formats where it's relevant. However, a black red infect deck would work just fine if you're playing the game for fun. (And in many ways, I totally recommend it.)
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Anyone see the stone forge mystic OGW on twitter? Real or fake?
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Could you get us a link? If you mean this one, it's just a promo card, not part of the upcoming set.
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Molybdenum posted:Anyone see the stone forge mystic OGW on twitter? Real or fake? Its the GP promo for 2016.
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https://elrincondemagic.wordpress.com/2015/12/28/spoilers-oath-of-gatewatch-stoneforge-mystic/ Are you talking about this? In that case, happy Spanish April Fools' Day.
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Dec 28, 2015 16:47
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Let me be the first to say: Holy poo poo does Support look underwhelming. Eldrazi cards look sweet, though, especially Spatial Contortion. That card's going to see non-rotating play.
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Dec 28, 2015 16:50
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You know, surge is giving me the feelbads.
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Sickening posted:You know, surge is giving me the feelbads. Drink more water
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Well, this set is going to make my nephew happy (surprise surprise) but I'm just looking at Spatial Contortion.
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Niton posted:Let me be the first to say: Holy poo poo does Support look underwhelming. I do not think that card is going to see non-rotating play(assuming you mean Modern/Vintage/Legacy). Where does it slot in? Elyv fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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Ramos posted:https://elrincondemagic.wordpress.com/2015/12/28/spoilers-oath-of-gatewatch-stoneforge-mystic/ Yeah that one. Edit: that draw spell makes me want to play rewind in modern.
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Niton posted:Let me be the first to say: Holy poo poo does Support look underwhelming. Is it? It's a colorless Nameless Inversion, the only thing that's really relevant against in modern is Etched Champion and you can use it in any d- I'll take eight.
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Dec 28, 2015 16:59
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Yeah, Spatial Contortion is going to be the poo poo. Support I think will be better than people expect simply because it lends a lot of power to those green scion decks. +6/+6 that can't be chump blocked by one dude is going to be very useful in limited.
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Niton posted:Let me be the first to say: Holy poo poo does Support look underwhelming. Its just kind of boring Scion summoner looks better than 90% of all of greens commons in BFZ lmao
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Jori En could see eternal play edit: oh it's just the second spell, not every spell after the first. Nevermind.
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Terrible Horse posted:Jori En could see eternal play Maybe? I thought of storm immediately, but its draw a card on your second spell and not 3rd, 4th, etc. E: yup we both came to the same conclusion
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Comparative analysis (Comp anal...?) seems pretty good. I think I like surge. Idk how much support it'll have in standard but Git probes + divination seems preeeetttty solid. Not backbreaking or anything.
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Are many eternal decks even capable of making colorless mana for Contortion? The duals that do aren't fetchable.
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Scion summoner is probably going to end up best green common for drafting. Colorless nameless inversion has sweet art and is very playable, dunno about any of those other very underwhelming rares.
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odiv posted:Are many eternal decks even capable of making colorless mana for Contortion? The duals that do aren't fetchable. Well, keep in mind the colorless mana is Wizards' attempt to combat the overwhelming amount of four color good stuff decks at the moment. Who knows, we might see some new varieties in terms of mana base for at least modern.
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Elyv posted:I do not think that card is going to see non-rotating play(assuming you mean Modern/Vintage/Legacy). Where does it slot in? I'm not sure where it slots in, but it hits a sweet spot for both mana cost (2CMC) and versatility (can be used to pump an X/4 if that's relevant to your deck).
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Scion summoner is probably going to end up best green common for drafting. Jori En and Cavalry seem relatively bad, and the others seem like limited bombs at least.
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odiv posted:Are many eternal decks even capable of making colorless mana for Contortion? The duals that do aren't fetchable. Tron? Really any deck that would/could would rather just play dismember probably.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Jori En and Cavalry seem relatively bad, and the others seem like limited bombs at least. Oh yeah they're certainly decent limited bombs, I should've clarified that I meant for constructed in that context. The blue one seems especially good for limited and blue was already probably the strongest color in bfz drafts. New goblin bushwacker is certainly constructed playable too, dragon fodder and hordeling outburst haven't rotated yet.
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Niton posted:I'm not sure where it slots in, but it hits a sweet spot for both mana cost (2CMC) and versatility (can be used to pump an X/4 if that's relevant to your deck). Let's just talk about Modern. 2 mana is actually a decent amount for a removal spell in a world with Dismember, Path, and Bolt; it's the same CMC as Terminate. What deck can easily produce colorless mana and isn't maxed out on those? The first one that jumps to mind to me is Tron, but I don't think Tron wants to be spending its early turns on such a low impact card. (By the way, in Modern not being able Deceiver Exarch with your removal spell is a real, serious problem. You might say "play it in Legacy" but I think the essential problem still holds there, plus Legacy is generally a more powerful format).
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Terrible Horse posted:Tron? Really any deck that would/could would rather just play dismember probably. It's good against etched champion but not much else I can think of
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odiv posted:Are many eternal decks even capable of making colorless mana for Contortion? The duals that do aren't fetchable. Tron is popping a gigantic erect Urza's Tower at the prospect of running that card E: Affinity too
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Reminder that the limited format will very much be defined by the Oath cards, as the draft is OGW - OGW - BFZ, so just one pack of bad green / good yourfavouritecolour.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Tron is popping a gigantic erect Urza's Tower at the prospect of running that card In its sideboard maybe.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Tron is popping a gigantic erect Urza's Tower at the prospect of running that card I thought Affinity too but don't most of its mana sources besides inkmoth produce colored mana? nope, got confused with pauper affinity.
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Lunsku posted:Reminder that the limited format will very much be defined by the Oath cards, as the draft is OGW - OGW - BFZ, so just one pack of bad green / good yourfavouritecolour. Thank god. Green commons were rubbish. I've had like one successful GR deck and it leaned heavily on red and on it's rares.
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Terrible Horse posted:I thought Affinity too but don't most of its mana sources besides inkmoth produce colored mana? Inkmoth and Blinkmoth make for 7-8 sources
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Terrible Horse posted:I thought Affinity too but don't most of its mana sources besides inkmoth produce colored mana? Citadel, both moth nexuses
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It doesn't kill spellskite which is also pretty relevant about the effectiveness of that card
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New tron that focuses less on consistently assembling the lands early and more on control? Or maybe just some Kozilek's Return in tron
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Mikujin posted:In its sideboard maybe. It'll run at least one main deck so it can have a shot at Stirrings for it if it needs it
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A certain dual land comes to mind that can tap for blue, white, or colorless mana.
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