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Mu. posted:This is Monom Gulnasnish. He is never the slightest bit cheerful about anything, and he is conflicted by this as he values parties and merrymaking in the abstract. Well god drat, I'd suggest a drink but apparently he's annoyed by inebriation!
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Noted UX idiot Tarn Adams decided that I want the ability to declare the number of cheese pieces or crossbow bolts I want to trade for. Which means I need to add another key press for every one of those. Also, it's really quite lovely that he's set it so regular dwarves have the rage virus for were-creatures and attack them as quickly as they can. Normally these dwarves are so scared at the sight of a cave crocodile eight levels down that they can't even use the stairs, but when a werekoala shows up every one of them throws themselves at it so that you're constantly dealing with a half-dozen infected dwarves.
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Now that they're constantly boozed up, nobody in my fort seems to give a second thought to fistfighting any wildlife that wanders by.
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Dec 27, 2015 20:44
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Sober fortresses might've just become a new challenge type. Just make an "alcohol" without inebriation effects. Like fruit juice or something.
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Dec 27, 2015 20:50
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Got a Goblin siege led by a headless dwarf.
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TildeATH posted:Noted UX idiot Tarn Adams decided that I want the ability to declare the number of cheese pieces or crossbow bolts I want to trade for. Which means I need to add another key press for every one of those. Didn't someone add in a functionality to hit shift-enter and have it mark Trade and move down a row, even if it was a cheese/bolt stack? I know Masterwork had it but I don't know if it was specific to MWDF or if it was a DFHack thing.
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Mad Pills posted:Got a Goblin siege led by a headless dwarf. Did he immediately suffocate?
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Dec 28, 2015 01:04
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Tarezax posted:Did he immediately suffocate? I don't know, I unpaused and his hat and crossbow was lying where he was standing, but his corpse was nowhere to be seen.
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Prop Wash posted:Didn't someone add in a functionality to hit shift-enter and have it mark Trade and move down a row, even if it was a cheese/bolt stack? I know Masterwork had it but I don't know if it was specific to MWDF or if it was a DFHack thing. DFHack's got it.
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Mad Pills posted:I don't know, I unpaused and his hat and crossbow was lying where he was standing, but his corpse was nowhere to be seen. Oh I guess he just collapsed into himself and out of existence. Makes sense 
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Dec 28, 2015 01:20
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Moridin920 posted:DFHack's got it. Thanks! I was playing 42.01 right after it came out and really missing the lack of functionality on the trade screen. Glad to know it'll be back soon, along with spawning magma sources, the confiscate/clean commands, and the always-popular exterminate elf command.
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Demiurge4 posted:You always have easy access to magma. Most of the time a straight stairway to the magma layer is actually shorter than the trip from the dining room to a dwarfs bedroom. People tend to forget that because it takes a lot of clicking < to get there, but that's why the game has shortcuts. I usually set 1 for surface entrance, 2 for dining rooms, 3 for crafting rooms, 4 for kitchens and 5 for the magma forges. It's super easy to skip around your fort with those shortcuts and helps you move a little away from super compact forts. How do you set shortcuts?
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Met posted:How do you set shortcuts? under the H menu
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Toady posted:I fixed sparring as well. The cautiousness personality check got flipped around with the new facets, which wouldn't normally be a problem (just a strike frequency shift), but the new drunken dwarves were 100 percent not-cautious (which made them all 100 percent cautious in the flipped check). The roll failed every time for them, so drunken sparring partners just sat there without throwing shots. That's normally reserved for super rare pathologically deliberate dwarves absolutely on one end of the curve, and that's not even much of an issue if their partner isn't the same way. What the hell does any of that mean? :???:
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reading posted:What the hell does any of that mean? :???: Drunken dwarves are supposed to say 'hold my beer and watch this' Instead they just sat around holding their beers.
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reading posted:What the hell does any of that mean? :???: Drunk dwarfs were being too chicken to throw blows while sparring, which was the opposite of what he wanted to happen. Such a thing should only be reserved for the most cowardly of dwarfs, but this would only be an issue if two cowards were fighting each-other.
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Dec 28, 2015 04:37
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Alehkhs posted:Bring on the zombie hordes! This all sounds rad but I don't really get the changes to headless zombies. So if you have an intact zombie without a head and you cut off a hand or whatever, they'll drop dead?
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Legin Noslen posted:Drunk dwarfs were being too chicken to throw blows while sparring, which was the opposite of what he wanted to happen. Such a thing should only be reserved for the most cowardly of dwarfs, but this would only be an issue if two cowards were fighting each-other. I like that this means regular dwarves will gladly beat the poo poo out of a cowardly dwarf that's too afraid to even throw a punch while sparring.
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SirPenguin posted:This all sounds rad but I don't really get the changes to headless zombies. So if you have an intact zombie without a head and you cut off a hand or whatever, they'll drop dead? Yeah basically the way toady reasoned was as follows: Unreasonable Zombies: * Zombie Leg * Zombie Spleen * Zombie Liver Reasonable zombies: * Intact Corpse * Headless Horseman * Morte The Skull * The Disembodied Hand That Strangled People So he basically said 'hey, to be raised as a zombie, the target corpse needs at least one of these: A) A brain B) A grasper, like a hand or something. He's now added the rule "If it had a brain, cutting the head off will kill the zombie. If it didn't have a brain, cutting off the grasper will do it." So if you cut the head off an undead body, you'll end up with a dead headless body and a dead head. But a necromancer could still say 'ARISE!' and get a zombie head and a headless zombie.
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I checked out legends mode today and found multiple corpses which were revived as zombies and subsequently married other zombies. Also, the updates to vampires means that the human civilization I've been dealing with randomly accepted that their vampire law-giver was actually someone else (she convinced them all that she was actually whatever her pseudonym is now) and totes not a vampire at all, guys! My legends have a disproportionate (somewhere around 70%) number of notable warrior women of various species, many of whom were cursed by the gods for blasphemies. The dragon that beaned itself on a stone-fall trap at my fort was actually quite accomplished -- he was the very first of his kind and had murdered the hell out of the world before he met his end at Swordold. Retiring and immediately unretiring meant that all of the mercenaries, performers, and scholars who had hired on but not become citizens left; most of the books in my fort also disappeared. A number of artifacts still show up in my fort's stocks, but I can't locate them in the fort and can't construct them (for constructable items such as thrones, etc.) or assign them (for weapons and the like in the military equip screen). No guests at the fort showed up hostile, though, so Toady really did resolve that issue.
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I asked this before but what are my dwarves, who have no skill at all as readers (i.e. they are illiterate right?) doing in the library reading my scrolls and books? Are they eventually going to gain Novice Reader skill?
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I'm pretty sure they won't get the skill and technically they're illiterate but I guess Toady thought it would be more fun if the dwarves did things with the libraries instead of doing nothing with the libraries and I can't disagree.
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Maybe they're looking at the pictures.
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I'm playing the stable LNP version and I have an issue - my woodcutters won't cut trees. They have the axes equipped and are not in a burrow. They just go up to the tree and stand nearby (one did manage to chop down a small one). The status screen shows that they are on the "Fell tree" assignment. They used to do it, but then I started getting message spam ("unable to find path" or something). I don't know what caused this to happen. I've already tried all the options - saving and reloading, trying with autolabor on and with it off, same with autochop. Any ideas how to remedy this? E: Ok, it turns out that somehow I assigned a tree to be chopped down and that tree was inside a wall deep underground. Weird. Cat Planet fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:Maybe they're looking at the pictures. It would be pretty interesting to see the dwarven "written" language as a series of pictures instead of normal writing. Since dwarves engrave with paintings alone... But you know, that's just sperging. Not like I have loads of points to put into some reading at embark anyway.
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Im getting confused. The newest version, I think, is v0.42.03, right? This is the one with cool taverns and such? But when I look up the 'current' LNP, it's all v0.40.24. Do I have to track down .42 and try to mess around with it without cool stuff like therapist if I want to try it?
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The Dregs posted:Im getting confused. The newest version, I think, is v0.42.03, right? This is the one with cool taverns and such? But when I look up the 'current' LNP, it's all v0.40.24. Do I have to track down .42 and try to mess around with it without cool stuff like therapist if I want to try it? Yes. All of those convenience things are hacks, that have to be re-made whenever Tarn releases a new version, and it's a huge chunk of work and analysis for major versions. Also, it's not much "tracking down", just go to http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ and hit Download.
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The Dregs posted:Im getting confused. The newest version, I think, is v0.42.03, right? This is the one with cool taverns and such? But when I look up the 'current' LNP, it's all v0.40.24. Do I have to track down .42 and try to mess around with it without cool stuff like therapist if I want to try it? I hadn't updated the big huge banner in the OP yet. Sorry about the confusion. scamtank fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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If you want the latest version of the starter pack with what tools have been updated you can find it here. It's for version 0.42.03 , it hasn't updated for 0.42.04 yet. .Be warned, it may cause more crashing and stuff if you use dfhack. However, Therapist is working fine with it and I haven't run into any issues using it.
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As far as I can tell the alpha/test of DFHack for .42.03 works just fine. I haven't tried to use workflow or the siege stuff but everything else I've done so far (liquids, exterminate, probe, reveal, DFusion, clean, a few others) works fine with no crashes or save game corruption.
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With these changes to zombies, I might actually consider playing in an evil region for once. The idea of raising a small army of well-equipped Dwarves against a massive zombie horde sounds awesome! 
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Never mind tower intrusions. Lag ebola aside, cleaving your way through a hundred meat bags is going to be something to watch.
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VerdantSquire posted:With these changes to zombies, I might actually consider playing in an evil region for once. The idea of raising a small army of well-equipped Dwarves against a massive zombie horde sounds awesome! I just decided to embark away from a Tower this time since it was impossible to deal with. gently caress.
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Can I get some help? I caught a troglodyte in a cage trap, but I can't assign him to any built cages or chains. Also, my dwarves are happy to haul dead kea, yaks, elk, and the like to my corpse stockpile, but they never get butchered. I've got two soldiers rotting in the pile despite twenty unclaimed coffins ready to take citizens.
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Is playing with DFhack autolabor on a bad thing that will teach me bad habits? I'm new to DF and I usually like the challenge, but I find spending two hours clicking on squares tedious. I only turn it off when I need something done now in order to give my dwarves the requred profession for the time being. How bad is it at optimizing your fortress compared to manual management? Also, are there enough material colors in DF to build the rainbow? I want to build a psychedelic hippie castle  Is magma forging worth it if I have tons of fuel? And if it is, what are the precautions for doing the magma pump stack thing? Oh, and what can I do to reduce stress on a particular dwarf aside from giving them a pimped out room covered with aluminum statues? My mayor seems to be acting up. Thanks in advance 
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So Math posted:Can I get some help? I caught a troglodyte in a cage trap, but I can't assign him to any built cages or chains. If you're on the new version it's because something is bugged and no sapient creature can get assigned to your cages or chains. You won't be able to do it with any gobbos or trolls you capture as invaders, either, and so on. The only thing you can do right now is manually build that cage the troglodyte is in but you can't pit it or assign it to a cage/chain. Make sure the coffins are actually marked as ready for burial, otherwise I dunno. Sometimes a dwarf will haul a corpse to the stockpile and it will take a little while before another dwarf gets the job to carry it to the coffin but it shouldn't take too long... Not everything that gets killed will get butchered. I want to say something is butcherable only about half the time the military kills it or a random civilian kills it - the only guarantee that something will get butchered is if a hunter kills it and hauls the corpse back. Cat Planet posted:Is playing with DFhack autolabor on a bad thing that will teach me bad habits? I'm new to DF and I usually like the challenge, but I find spending two hours clicking on squares tedious. I only turn it off when I need something done now in order to give my dwarves the requred profession for the time being. How bad is it at optimizing your fortress compared to manual management? I don't think it's bad but if you can get it to work properly then kudos. For whatever reason it works fine for a bit and then inexplicably decides I need 0 miners and turns off all the miner labors even if I specifically do 'minimum X miners' in the command line. It requires a bit of set up but if you're willing to do it then it's probably just as good if not better than manual management. I don't really bother with super detailed manual management anyway though - I don't use Therapist and the only time I really care about if a dwarf would be suitable for the job or not emotions/personality wise is if I am drafting them. quote:Also, are there enough material colors in DF to build the rainbow? I want to build a psychedelic hippie castle I believe so... you might need a tileset though. quote:Is magma forging worth it if I have tons of fuel? And if it is, what are the precautions for doing the magma pump stack thing? Eh, probably not. The pain with fuel is you have to constantly go back and say 'make charcoal' or 'make coal' but if you have workflow and autochop on then that's basically 100% automated for you. I still like to use magma because it is more dwarf-y though but there is no inherent advantage to it afaik. As far as the magma pump stack goes, make sure everything in the pumps is magma proof (forging iron pipe sections and corkscrews is easiest, use magma safe materials or forge iron blocks for the casing/body of the machine). Make sure there is a lever hooked up somewhere else (use iron or magma-safe rock mechanisms in the bits that will be near magma) that you can use to emergency halt the whole thing in case magma starts spilling places where it shouldn't. Magma is not pressurized like water is though so there's a little less worry there. You don't need to make it go diagonal or whatever, it won't rise past the z-level that it enters on (ie a big reservoir of magma that feeds into a shallow trench won't overflow due to pressure like water would). Oh, and what can I do to reduce stress on a particular dwarf aside from giving them a pimped out room covered with aluminum statues? My mayor seems to be acting up. Thanks in advance Not really all that much unfortunately... See what the dwarf likes to eat/drink and see if you can stock any of that stuff (they should grab it before other stuff without you needing to mess with burrows and whatever). Otherwise pimp their room out and general surroundings. An artifact statue in the main entrance/walkway that everyone walks by will cause happy thoughts even if it isn't designated as anything. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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Moridin920 posted:I specifically do 'minimum X miners' in the command line You can do this? I should read up on that then. Thank you
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