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Who is the man??
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Goku 202 7.09%
Vegeta 279 9.79%
Krillin 208 7.30%
Piccolo or his nameks 212 7.44%
Gohan or Cool Gohan 135 4.74%
Yamcha 90 3.16%
Tien 120 4.21%
Muten Roshi 89 3.12%
Tao Pai Pai 71 2.49%
Frieza 69 2.42%
Cell or an android 86 3.02%
Buu 62 2.18%
Hercule "Mark" Satan 327 11.48%
Videl 90 3.16%
Bulma 104 3.65%
Yajirobe 99 3.47%
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy 68 2.39%
King kai or another kai 53 1.86%
Chi-Chi 83 2.91%
Goten 43 1.51%
Trunks or Cool Trunks 112 3.93%
Bardock 48 1.68%
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) 41 1.44%
Uub 42 1.47%
Oolong 90 3.16%
Zamasu 26 0.91%
Total: 1326 votes
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Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009

It looks fine you babies

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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Fluffdaddy posted:

It looks fine you babies

It's bad

Super bad

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude
So, Toei is pulling a Sailor Moon Crystal?

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

e X posted:

So, Toei is pulling a Sailor Moon Crystal?

No, they're pulling ANOTHER Sailor Moon Crystal.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
I am amazed Digimon Tri is getting as much effort as it is.

Who would have thought back in the 90s that one day, Bandai would be giving the most amount of work to DIGIMON over Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Burkion posted:

I am amazed Digimon Tri is getting as much effort as it is.

Who would have thought back in the 90s that one day, Bandai would be giving the most amount of work to DIGIMON over Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z

It might actually be as simple as "this is a series so it gets X yen, this is a group of OVAs so it gets Z yen."

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Some Numbers posted:

It might actually be as simple as "this is a series so it gets X yen, this is a group of OVAs so it gets Z yen."

That's not even really what's going on with Tri though. Digimon Tri is basically just a 24 episode series broken up into the movies. Crunchyroll still shows them AS episodes, so they're not simply OVAs.

Which makes it hilarious and head scratching to me.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Burkion posted:

That's not even really what's going on with Tri though. Digimon Tri is basically just a 24 episode series broken up into the movies. Crunchyroll still shows them AS episodes, so they're not simply OVAs.

Which makes it hilarious and head scratching to me.

I know that Tri was originally going to be a series and they changed it to be an OVA, maybe that was to get more money?

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Burkion posted:

That's not even really what's going on with Tri though. Digimon Tri is basically just a 24 episode series broken up into the movies. Crunchyroll still shows them AS episodes, so they're not simply OVAs.

Which makes it hilarious and head scratching to me.

The "episodes" don't function as such though. They're clearly chunks of a movie with an OP and ED grafted on.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

I have this really weird feeling that the people behind Multiverse really dislike Beerus.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Well they're french.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Blaze Dragon posted:

I have this really weird feeling that the people behind Multiverse really dislike Beerus.

I have to imagine they take issue with him being 'behind' Freeza destroying planet Vegeta...except I'm pretty sure that was a relic of when Beerus was going t obe some boring generic bug bad guy virus thing that Toryiama put a stop to. It's still a bit eyeroll worthy, but easy to ignore.


Otherwise it's just kind of hilarious.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Blaze Dragon posted:

I have this really weird feeling that the people behind Multiverse really dislike Beerus.

lol that owns

Webbeh
Dec 13, 2003

IF THIS IS A 'LOST' THREAD I'M PROBABLY WHINING ABOUT
STABBEY THE MEANY

Burkion posted:

It's some how worse than the majority of the animation of the original DBZ. It shouldn't be, we should have progressed far beyond it, and yet

This isn't true and you loving know it.

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.
Man there's a lot of people itt that need to rewatch original DBZ and not Kai.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Webbeh posted:

This isn't true and you loving know it.

When Super gets bad, it's SO much worse than anything Z had. Z had general mistakes, off model nonsense, like Imperfect Cell suddenly getting SUPER buff no the gently caress of nowhere, some derpy stuff

Super, at its worst moments, just becomes armature hour.

It's worse because we should be beyond that.

We should not have to push out an inferior product and keep chanting WAIT FOR THE DVD RELEASE because they couldnt' take the time and effort to not make it look like total rear end.

Super when it's good is much better than Z- but its low points ARE lower, and that's something that should not happen.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

You'd have thought for a new installment of the literal most popular anime series in the world they could have afforded to not have significant parts of it look like a flash cartoon

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

A Steampunk Gent posted:

You'd have thought for a new installment of the literal most popular anime series in the world they could have afforded to not have significant parts of it look like a flash cartoon

Ah but see see Steampunk Gent, it was for own fault for expecting it to be good

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
If someone is saying Super has higher highs than Z I would like to see some hard evidence, because that poo poo in episode 2 where Vegeta's time at the amusement park was all panning of still shots swore me off Super until it gets dubbed so I can just not bother watching most of it until cool stuff happens

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
That and having to hear Nozawa voice the entire Son family

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go
lol if you listen to the awful japanese dub

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Farecoal posted:

lol if you listen to the awful japanese dub

Is it really a "dub" when it's the original recording in language of origin?

Also; I am unaware of any "awful" Japanese language track on Super.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

jivjov posted:

Is it really a "dub" when it's the original recording in language of origin?

Also; I am unaware of any "awful" Japanese language track on Super.

Technically it is a dub as no animation has natural sound.


Except, you know, the anguished cries of animators

But yeah it's semantic

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Burkion posted:

Technically it is a dub as no animation has natural sound.


Except, you know, the anguished cries of animators

But yeah it's semantic

Fair enough.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

jivjov posted:

Is it really a "dub" when it's the original recording in language of origin?

Also; I am unaware of any "awful" Japanese language track on Super.

turn your speakers on next time you watch it

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

jivjov posted:

Also; I am unaware of any "awful" Japanese language track on Super.

It's the one with Masako Nozawa voicing the Son family

and Trunks voiced by Hiromi Tsuru

and Krillin voiced by Luffy's voice actor, mayumi tanaka? yeah, that's her i don't like her as luffy either

Unsho Ishizuka is a good mr. satan tho, even better than gouri imo rest his soul

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

I mean I was getting used to Nozawa somehow but King Kai, WOOF

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Stairmaster posted:

Well they're french.

So, they're fans of Champa?

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

Baal posted:

If someone is saying Super has higher highs than Z I would like to see some hard evidence, because that poo poo in episode 2 where Vegeta's time at the amusement park was all panning of still shots swore me off Super until it gets dubbed so I can just not bother watching most of it until cool stuff happens

Nobody is saying Super has higher highs than Z. In fact I don't even know what the high of Super would really be, since we can only compare it to the movies right now. Quality wise only episode 5 (Goku vs Beerus on King Kai's planet) has been the worst by far, with everything else being mediocre. People say 24 was holy poo poo awful but... I'm not sure what show they watched. It wasn't good but to place it with ep 5 is just plain weird.

Squall
Mar 10, 2010

"...whatever."
I'd watch the English dub but it literally does not exist so

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Super hasn't even completed one arc if you take out the movies, so it's a little early to judge which is has higher highs.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

CharlestheHammer posted:

Super hasn't even completed one arc if you take out the movies, so it's a little early to judge which is has higher highs.

I'm not taking out 1/4 of the entire planned series and you can't stop me

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Well you can count it but People love Battle so that helps Super more than hurts it.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Burkion posted:

When Super gets bad, it's SO much worse than anything Z had. Z had general mistakes, off model nonsense, like Imperfect Cell suddenly getting SUPER buff no the gently caress of nowhere, some derpy stuff

Super, at its worst moments, just becomes armature hour.

It's worse because we should be beyond that.

We should not have to push out an inferior product and keep chanting WAIT FOR THE DVD RELEASE because they couldnt' take the time and effort to not make it look like total rear end.

Super when it's good is much better than Z- but its low points ARE lower, and that's something that should not happen.

I mean, we shouldn't accept crap, but your logic is flawed. Just because time has moved forward doesn't mean quality will increase. Those don't really directly influence each other.

If anything, the fact Toei Animation has taken on more projects than they can handle since then, means it makes sense, though doesn't make it excusable, that quality has decreased as they have trouble giving every project adequate resources. Some analyst within the company said that, with their resources, they could, at most, handle 7 shows concurrently, and they handle much more than that. It is still their fault, through and through, but stands in contrast to your argument.

What I mean is, we shouldn't accept crap, but timing moving forward doesn't mean we will get a better product.

Covok fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Dec 29, 2015

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

CharlestheHammer posted:

Well you can count it but People love Battle so that helps Super more than hurts it.

Yeah, really. Even if you put it on the level of filler arc it would still fare much better than Z's filler.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
In interest of fairness Super is not literally as bad of a situation as Sailor Moon Crystal, that's true. If it was it would be an internet-only series. As someone with no childhood attachment to Sailor Moon everything involving that show from an outsiders perspective was baffling and kinda sad.

vvv Yeah what does the "7 shows" comment even refer to, dubbing? Funimation doesn't animate anything.

mycot fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Dec 29, 2015

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Covok posted:

I mean, we shouldn't accept crap, but your logic is flawed. Just because time has moved forward doesn't mean quality will increase. Those don't really directly influence each other.

If anything, the fact Funimation has taken on more projects than they can handle since then, means it makes sense, though doesn't make it excusable, that quality has decreased as they have trouble giving every project adequate resources. Some analyst within the company said that, with their resources, they could, at most, handle 7 shows concurrently, and they handle much more than that. It is still their fault, through and through, but stands in contrast to your argument.

What I mean is, we shouldn't accept crap, but timing moving forward doesn't mean we will get a better product.

you mean toei

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Baal posted:

It's the one with Masako Nozawa voicing the Son family

and Trunks voiced by Hiromi Tsuru

and Krillin voiced by Luffy's voice actor, mayumi tanaka? yeah, that's her i don't like her as luffy either

Unsho Ishizuka is a good mr. satan tho, even better than gouri imo rest his soul

Masako Nozawa is a perfectly fine voice actress.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Stairmaster posted:

you mean toei

gently caress! Yeah, you right. I said Funimation every time I meant to say Toei Animation. My brain be tripping, yo.

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Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

CharlestheHammer posted:

Super hasn't even completed one arc if you take out the movies, so it's a little early to judge which is has higher highs.

I'm talking about animation quality- Super is going to have higher highs just because it's a modern production and, unless they really gently caress up, they should be able to produce something much better animated than what was in Z.

Mind you my favorite bit of animation was in the first Final Form Freeza fight, where Vegets is blasting away and Freeza dodges all of them and then leads the blasts towards the others with a cocky smirk. It was so smoothly done and so beautiful, it's the best animation moment in the franchise for me.

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