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It's not really that simple. You can't "just make" it look like traditional animation.
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IronicDongz posted:It's not really that simple. You can't "just make" it look like traditional animation. You can if you're Cassette Girl. That short did a pretty good job. Unfortunately the list of decent CG animation studios in the anime industry is quite low.
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I guess the question then is why does anime have so much more issue making back its costs compared to western animation? Are American cartoons just cheaper to make, does anime have too small of a market, or some other issue?
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Dec 27, 2015 11:23
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Most CG looks bad in anime because they are trying to make it look like 2D animation instead of just letting it work to its strengths.
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Dec 27, 2015 11:25
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Sakurazuka posted:Most CG looks bad in anime because they are trying to make it look like 2D animation instead of just letting it work to its strengths. On top of that the base animation isn't any good to begin with.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I guess the question then is why does anime have so much more issue making back its costs compared to western animation? Are American cartoons just cheaper to make, does anime have too small of a market, or some other issue? Yes and yes, generally speaking. Good animation is hard, expensive, and time-consuming and the entire history of animation has been a search for ways to mitigate that. American cartoons are rarely animated in anything approaching a "naturalistic" style, which Berserk pretty much demands. There are plenty of Japanese cartoons that are widely watched and make plenty of money; they tend to be the ones that don't involve elaborate revenge sagas about medieval mercenaries fighting rape horse demons and such. A lot of anime is made with the expectation that they can bilk a load of money out of a small core of obsessive fans, because the fact that it isn't going to have wide appeal is a foregone conclusion.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Forgive me if this is really dumb, but why is the cg not just made to look like normal animation? Is there something fundamentally different between all the flash and psuedo flash cartoons done in America and the poorly blended anime CG? Yes, Flash is flat drawings using vector line tweening and CG is full 3D models that have to be modeled, rigged, textured and shaded and then animated. And animating something like Berserk is really hard because you expect all the characters to move with realistic weight but also have anime appeal and not look like they're just cutscenes out of a video game. That's why for the movies they sometimes redrew the faces on top of the CG bodies to get the characters to look pretty good, but parts of the bodies still didn't look right. Optimally they'd use CG for the armor, sword, and legs and then maybe draw the arms, head, and cape. But that's really labor-intensive, and they didn't really get the hang of it until the 3rd movie. There are a few studios that could maybe pull it off, like Kamikaze Douga, but they prefer to do higher-margin work. TV anime is very very low margin, which is why there's a talent flight to video games and commercials. The people who remain working in anime are very dedicated and very insane.
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Dec 27, 2015 16:15
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klapman posted:I'm not sure I have a choice in the matter at this point, man. I've had the Ghosts I-IV album playing constantly while I read it and it's almost perfect for Berserk. I'm in the middle of volume ten and I just can't stop hah, i had lots of boards of canada on full blast in headphones.
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Dec 27, 2015 17:01
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I would be happier with a mediocre Berserk game rather than another set of mediocre movies.
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Dec 27, 2015 18:24
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I know the PS2 and Dreamcast games are along the same lines, but I'd love a Golden Age-era Musou game.
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Dec 27, 2015 20:44
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I was driving down the highway earlier and in front of me I saw two trucks next to each other, a black truck and a white truck. And for just a second in my head, I thought those trucks were Guts and Griffith.
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Dec 28, 2015 00:31
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And here's a late Christmas gift in the form of chapter 343.
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LordMune posted:And here's a late Christmas gift in the form of chapter 343. 
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Dec 28, 2015 12:26
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LOL "Summer 2016". At least it's a date of some kind.
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Nate RFB posted:LOL "Summer 2016". At least it's a date of some kind. Only six to nine more months!
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Dec 28, 2015 13:29
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Oh FOR FUCKS SAKE.
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Dec 28, 2015 13:46
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Well we got six chapters in 2015, probably as good as we can hope for  Not liking the otaku catnip in this last one though... *posts irregularly*
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Dec 28, 2015 14:21
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A chapter about nothing, ilu2 Miura
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Dec 28, 2015 15:59
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FiftySeven posted:Oh FOR FUCKS SAKE. I had just started catching up on Berserk after my friend told me they had gotten off of the boat. Shine on, Miura. Shine on.
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Dec 28, 2015 16:10
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LordMune posted:And here's a late Christmas gift in the form of chapter 343. Between the new movie annoucment and a bunch of new chapters, this has been a pretty good year for Berserk.
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For real though, Idolmaster jokes aside, what in the gently caress does Miura do to make a living, is he actually taking years to draw a few loving chapters here and there or is he taking an advisory role for the new anime or loving what
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Dec 28, 2015 18:54
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I guess he makes enough off of residuals that he's not very hungry these days.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:57
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Oh no, Berserk is going to be published irregularly from now on! I did really enjoy this chapter though. See y'all next summer.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:40
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I guess at least we're better off than Hunter x Hunter fans ..........
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Dec 28, 2015 19:44
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To be fair, I was concerned it was going to be three chapters of fighting the Wicker Man. So maybe something will happen next summer?
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Dec 28, 2015 19:45
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That was a cool chapter.
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Dec 28, 2015 20:06
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New thread title "Berserk: Now Published Irregularly".
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Dec 28, 2015 20:13
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I'm confused whenever Miura introduces antagonists I don't want to see get chopped in half by Guts. Thanks for the release. 
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Dec 28, 2015 20:17
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I think that Bosscrow took 6 months to draw. That had some crazy detail. Also, for metal fans, Swallow the Sun always reminds me of Berserk and Dark Souls. The songs Plague of Butterflies and These Woods Breath Evil in particular.
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Sakurazuka posted:I guess at least we're better off than Hunter x Hunter fans .......... Not a single new chapter this year. A first for the series apparently. And they were still planning to get on their boat when this happened.
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Dec 28, 2015 22:37
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Berserk - Surprisingly has a better schedule than H X H
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Dec 28, 2015 23:14
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gently caress yo Wicker Man, I just fought a god.
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Pewdiepie posted:That was a cool chapter. Have you tried out Bakemonogatari?
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Dec 29, 2015 04:33
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They really could've picked a more flattering preview image of their Guts model.
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Dec 29, 2015 05:19
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Camera recording of the teaser, proper release coming whenever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6izvgutkZs
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Dec 29, 2015 11:57
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Aside from the CG model looking like rear end (still a step up from the movies) that wasn't too bad. Possibly because they haven't put any effort towards making it NOT look like a middling video game cutscene - I maintain that the PS2 game is the best Berserk has ever looked in motion.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:10
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I really hope those are Idolmaster girls surrounding the screen.
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Dec 29, 2015 12:12
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Reds posted:Camera recording of the teaser, proper release coming whenever. Here's a proper teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIA9xg2oIew
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Dec 29, 2015 12:45
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Haha, yeah, nice PS2 cutscene.
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Well, there goes my smile and optimism.
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