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minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

doesn't Toronto already have a rapid transit system similar to Chicago's Metra out to the suburbs? why would that need to be a subway, just run the stupid trains at grade

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Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

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Did congestion charges actually help in London? Asking because I want another thing to complain about NYC not implementing because of stupid politics.

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

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Austin's light rail system aka the single light rail line is pretty rad except for the part where it doesn't run on weekends past midnight, despite a huge drunk driving problem in the area (it also runs fairly infrequently but they just doubled the rolling stock).

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014





:sigh:

Phobeste
Apr 9, 2006

never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man
i like public transit, particularly living in fort greene brooklyn near 4 or 5 depending how you count them (not counting local v express) and about 7 different bus lines that can take me bascally anywhere i want to go for the princely sum of like 2.50

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Phobeste posted:

i like public transit, particularly living in fort greene brooklyn near 4 or 5 depending how you count them (not counting local v express) and about 7 different bus lines that can take me bascally anywhere i want to go for the princely sum of like 2.50

ft Greene is a gd convenient place to get to

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

200k town in developing nation with cold winters and hot summers: off-street bike lanes and gigabit not a problem

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Progressive JPEG posted:

200k town in developing nation with cold winters and hot summers: off-street bike lanes and gigabit not a problem



eastern europe owns

Phobeste
Apr 9, 2006

never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man

theflyingexecutive posted:

ft Greene is a gd convenient place to get to

strong spot, although there's a disturbing number of chipotles popping up

like the combo chipotle/starbucks on myrtle and vanderbilt. bad

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

I'm in east Flatbush, no chipotles there :twisted:

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Phobeste posted:

combo chipotle/starbucks

lol wtf

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/12/28/deep-south-4/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_deepsouthfour-136pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

quote:

She squinted, with a light sigh, at the public transit curlicue she was about to make through Atlanta:

Sixty-nine stops on a bus;

a nine-minute train ride;

an additional 49 stops on a bus;

a quarter-mile walk.

“Off to the races,” Scott, 28, said as she boarded the No. 55 bus, and this was a day much like the others, where the cost of destitution was a job hunt in which even the simplest task — placing an application — required four hours, round-trip, on a bus.

:911:

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

the free market does not want her to have a car,. the free market has decided and it will save us all. per hapes if we sacrifice additional goat to teh market it will provide again. we must build more statues for the market to look upon and be happy adn sacrifices more goat

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Progressive JPEG posted:

200k town in developing nation with cold winters and hot summers: off-street bike lanes and gigabit not a problem



I don't see any bicycle lanes there. only road and sidewalk

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

more like :publictranspoort:

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Shaggar posted:

more like :publictranspoort:

Adix posted:

shaggar was white

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

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but hey, looks like we might finally get decent high speed rail in this country
In Texas

Developed and financed privately

Using superior Japanese train systems

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

minivanmegafun posted:

doesn't Toronto already have a rapid transit system similar to Chicago's Metra out to the suburbs? why would that need to be a subway, just run the stupid trains at grade

basically, yes, it's called Metrolinx or GO. there's buses on many routes too.

practically speaking, it depends on which "suburbs" and when. only a couple of lines have all-day two-way train service, only one has 20-minute peak service. everything else is into the city in the morning and out in the evenings, buses the rest of the time.

also, when people say "almost rural suburbs" in reference to toronto, they usually mean the old boroughs that amalgamated into the city, and not the actual suburbs. back in '98 the province decided to extend a middle finger to everyone in the metropolitan area by amalgamating the six municipalities into one city. scarborough and etobicoke were small cities in their own right, but very low density. since the amalgamation the residents of these places feel that since the dense city core gets high-order transit, they should too. usually the arguments are centered around what they deserve, as opposed to what the ridership actually dictates.

so we get them scuttling dedicated ROW LRTs in favour of a subway that goes nowhere, serves no one, and seemingly will never be built because the same suburban jackholes refuse to pay the taxes needed to fund them.

also the mayor used his imagineering skills and a whole pack of crayons to devise a plan to use the GO/Metrolinx network for rapid transit within the city, and has been slowly discovering what everyone said when he first came up with it, it's literally impossible to do as planned.

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
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Can't post for 8 years!

maybe she should have thought about that before having sex out of wedlock

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Posting at 310km/h on a Spanish train. Pity that the USA doesn't have the population density or the money for this sort of thing.

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


It's incredible how much more comfortable this is than driving or flying

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

the northeast corridor definitely has the density

can't even repair the exiting aging tunnels and bridges though let alone actually build anything new however

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

pointsofdata posted:

Posting at 310km/h on a Spanish train. Pity that the USA doesn't have the population density or the money for this sort of thing.

we have the population density and the money, what we dont have is the politics

that said, 2016 is the biggest year in US history for transit, both in terms of project openings and stuff getting put to voters. really will decide the future of transit in the US.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

mishaq posted:

the northeast corridor definitely has the density

can't even repair the exiting aging tunnels and bridges though let alone actually build anything new however

lol the northeast corridor would never be able to build a high speed train because everyone would demand that it stop in their town reducing the maximum speed to 50mph.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Shaggar posted:

lol the northeast corridor would never be able to build a high speed train because everyone would demand that it stop in their town reducing the maximum speed to 50mph.

they already have one

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

pointsofdata posted:

Posting at 310km/h on a Spanish train. Pity that the USA doesn't have the population density or the money for this sort of thing.

the northeast corridor is like 10x as dense and 2x as rich as spain

it's just a matter of political will

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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Phobeste posted:

strong spot, although there's a disturbing number of chipotles popping up

like the combo chipotle/starbucks on myrtle and vanderbilt. bad

lol i live like 5 minutes from there

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



Shaggar posted:

lol the northeast corridor would never be able to build a high speed train because everyone would demand that it stop in their town reducing the maximum speed to 50mph.

union station, 30th street station, penn station, back bay/south station. idk whats so difficult.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

"we refuse to pay for a new overpass so this train must go over an at grade intersection at 30mph hail satan"

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
our town is expanding to where this expressway is, let's make sure nobody can drive faster than 30 on an express way when they see our stripmall, and lets put lots an dlots of traffic lights there too

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

triple sulk posted:

union station, 30th street station, penn station, back bay/south station. idk whats so difficult.

oh no blimp issue
Feb 23, 2011

Shaggar posted:

lol the northeast corridor would never be able to build a high speed train because everyone would demand that it stop in their town reducing the maximum speed to 50mph.

shaggar unable to envision a world where there is a slow train and a fast train on the same stretch

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
accela or whatever it was called still blew when i took it literally once because it was almost 4x the price as a plane ticket at the time and 3x slower

the prices are nearly the same now though but flying takes less than an hour

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Awia posted:

shaggar unable to envision a world where there is a slow train and a fast train on the same stretch

the maximum speed of the train is irrelevant when it has to make stops every 15 miles

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
the Amtrak downeaster would be faster than a car if it did not stop between Portland and North Station.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Beeftweeter posted:

accela or whatever it was called still blew when i took it literally once because it was almost 4x the price as a plane ticket at the time and 3x slower

the prices are nearly the same now though but flying takes less than an hour

I took the Accela from NYC to Boston a few times and it was worth it to not deal with flying. also it's easy to work on the train

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Awia posted:

shaggar unable to envision a world outside his limited life experience living in Maine

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Beeftweeter posted:

accela or whatever it was called still blew when i took it literally once because it was almost 4x the price as a plane ticket at the time and 3x slower

the prices are nearly the same now though but flying takes less than an hour

ive taken acela from DC to NYC or bmore a bunch of times and its def faster than flying if you count early arrival time at the airport and getting to JFK and crap. DC to NYC is 3 hours by acela to penn station, or an hour 15 minutes by air plus early arrival and a cab or subway ride. ill take the train.

also the price fluctuates but northeast regional is normally significantly cheaper than air, and about the same travel times if you include everything. acela is normally faster (and more comfortable) than air, and more expensive. also consistently sold out on prime days. funny enough, acela is normally full of douchey business types while the poors take the plane.

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



acela first class owns

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bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

triple sulk posted:

acela first class owns

qft

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