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In a weird way I kinda feel Rey being a Skywalker comes off as less dumb if there are other Jedi too. Otherwise the Force just comes off as super nepotistic past the Old Republic era.
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Gorelab posted:In a weird way I kinda feel Rey being a Skywalker comes off as less dumb if there are other Jedi too. Otherwise the Force just comes off as super nepotistic past the Old Republic era. They basically did that plotline in the Legend of Korra series so I wouldn't doubt it showing up sooner or later. Probably not until these sets of films are done with though.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:24
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If anything, Ren is going to be used as a pawn. I hope Snoke has an actual sith in training and Ren is just his lovely proxy to draw attention. It'd be cool if the real pupil was Ren's Nazi buddy.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:25
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Jerkface posted:Finn can become a Jedi & him and poe can gently caress
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Dec 29, 2015 02:25
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I dont know what i want more, a biracial conventional relationship in ep8/9 of star wars, or a biracial gay as hell relationship in ep8/ep9. Can we have both?!?! edit: I mean come on 
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Dec 29, 2015 02:27
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Jerkface posted:I dont know what i want more, a biracial conventional relationship in ep8/9 of star wars, or a biracial gay as hell relationship in ep8/ep9. Can we have both?!?! I wouldn't get my hopes up
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Dec 29, 2015 02:30
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Nothing wrong with an OT3. I don't really want Rey to be a Skywalker either. I just don't want any of the characters I love to have been such deadbeats as to abandon their kid to that life  .
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Dec 29, 2015 02:31
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Jerkface posted:I dont know what i want more, a biracial conventional relationship in ep8/9 of star wars, or a biracial gay as hell relationship in ep8/ep9. Can we have both?!?! Multi- racial poly relationship between Rey/Finn/Poe/Bb-8/Millenium Falcon
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Jerkface posted:I dont know what i want more, a biracial conventional relationship in ep8/9 of star wars, or a biracial gay as hell relationship in ep8/ep9. Can we have both?!?! I was getting that vibe as well. A bromance for the ages.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:34
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If neither Poe nor the actor is gay, I have no loving clue what happened in that scene.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:49
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Benson Cunningham posted:If neither Poe nor the actor is gay, I have no loving clue what happened in that scene. Poe is thanking Finn for finding and returning BB-8 to him.
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Dec 29, 2015 02:54
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Effectronica posted:It's from Lucas in 1977. Some people are more naturally gifted, but anyone can learn how to do it if they are willing. The funny thing is that the prequels actually made this explicit by explaining that all life forms possess midi-chlorians. Whereas if you went by the originals, all you'd know is that the Force runs strong in Luke's family. Meanwhile, everyone else is puttering around not using their easily-obtained superpowers for some reason, even though literally all it takes is some old dude telling you the Force exists and whispering fortune-cookie platitudes into your ear over the course of a day and a half. Before the PT, I always assumed it was a matter of people being either Force-sensitive or non-Force-sensitive, full-stop. The PT made it clear that Force-sensitivity is universal, but exists on a spectrum, just like any other skill or trait. Going by the implications of what we're actually shown and told, the OT's conception of the Force is actually more elitist and genetically deterministic than the PT's. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 02:57
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enraged_camel posted:Poe is thanking Finn for finding and returning BB-8 to him. Do you lip bite like that when you thank your friends? You might be sending some mixed messages.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Do you lip bite like that when you thank your friends? You might be sending some mixed messages.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:00
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Benson Cunningham posted:Do you lip bite like that when you thank your friends? You might be sending some mixed messages. Zeris posted:drat I am gonna start doing that
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Cnut the Great posted:The funny thing is that the prequels actually made this explicit by explaining that all life forms possess midi-chlorians. Whereas if you went by the originals, all you'd know is that the Force runs strong in Luke's family. Meanwhile, everyone else is puttering around not using their easily-obtained superpowers for some reason, even though literally all it takes is some old dude telling you the Force exists and whispering fortune-cookie platitudes into your ear over the course of a day and a half. On the other hand, Yoda puts the qualifications for Jedi training on the trainee's personality, and, hell, it's still a universal thing that surrounds and penetrates everyone.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:01
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I thought it was pretty obvious Poe like liked Finn. Like seriously who bites their lip like that and not give off " I wanna gently caress you vibes".
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Dec 29, 2015 03:09
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I rewatched episode 3 with rifftrax the other day and there's seriously three scenes back to back of people talking in a spaceport, an office and a conference room.
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Dec 29, 2015 03:09
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Um, if Poe isn't gay for Finn, then how do you explain all the DREAMS I've been having? Checkmate Gay Jedis
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Dec 29, 2015 03:16
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I'm totally cool with Poe Dameron, intergalactic gay space warrior
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Dec 29, 2015 03:17
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Finn obviously feels extend guilt for having been part off the order and as much as he wants to run he's desperate to be a hero. When he sees Rey who he doesn't know at all he runs to try and help her as far as he can before seeing he's not needed, and then when escaping Tie fighters his first instinct is to hold her hand and be a protector.
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Effectronica posted:On the other hand, Yoda puts the qualifications for Jedi training on the trainee's personality, and, hell, it's still a universal thing that surrounds and penetrates everyone. Well, yes, Yoda wanted to disqualify Luke anyway because he was too emotional. Having a a baseline level of natural talent for the Force is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition qualifying you for training as a Jedi. If you're a whiny prick, it doesn't matter how many midi-chlorians you have. In that case, Yoda would rather teach someone who was less inherently skilled, but more even-tempered than Luke. It might take years to teach that person even the bare basics of Force use, but at least they'd be less likely to flip out and turn into a Sith Lord. What's cool about The Clone Wars is the very first episode features Yoda giving a squad of clone troopers lessons in the Force. He doesn't teach them how to unlock hidden superpowers, because that's beyond their capabilities; but he inspires them to see themselves as individuals each with a unique presence in the Force. This opens them up to acknowledging for the first time the special talents that make each of them stand out from the other clones in the group, which gives them the push they need to defeat an entire army of droids despite being impossibly outnumbered. The lesson of the episode is essentially, "STOP FOCUSING SO MUCH ON THE GODDAMN SUPERPOWERS, EVERYONE. THEY AREN'T THE POINT." Really, though. It's like people reading Harry Potter and not understanding that, in real life, it's a lack of imagination that makes you a Muggle, not a lack of magical blood. Because magical blood doesn't actually exist.
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Jerkface posted:Finn can become a Jedi & him and poe can gently caress up the knights of ren while Rey takes down the boss man Finn riding into battle atop Poe's X-Wing, lightsaber blazing, ready to rain death upon the unBrolievers.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Finn riding into battle atop Poe's X-Wing, lightsaber blazing, ready to rain death upon the unBrolievers. "I'm in charge now I'm in charge now I'M IN CHARGE!!!"
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Cnut the Great posted:Well, yes, Yoda wanted to disqualify Luke anyway because he was too emotional. Having a a baseline level of natural talent for the Force is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition qualifying you for training as a Jedi. If you're a whiny prick, it doesn't matter how many midi-chlorians you have. In that case, Yoda would rather teach someone who was less inherently skilled, but more even-tempered than Luke. It might take years to teach that person even the bare basics of Force use, but at least they'd be less likely to flip out and turn into a Sith Lord. Of course, the most important superpower is invisible anyways. The telekinesis and the magical lightning and the teleportation are flashy but secondary to just opening your mind and doing a little kyudo and hitting the thermal exhaust port/throwing away your sword.
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Jerkface posted:Finn can become a Jedi & him and poe can gently caress I hope they save that for Ep 9, but I won't be offended if it happens sooner.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:I hope they save that for Ep 9, but I won't be offended if it happens sooner. It is happening in fanfic forums across the internet right now my friend
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:I hope they save that for Ep 9, but I won't be offended if it happens sooner. Poe will "unlock" Finn's latent Force potential.
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Acaila posted:I don't really want Rey to be a Skywalker either. Well, there's the love story nobody is talking about! Rey and Luke hook up.
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Dec 29, 2015 05:28
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Since Phantasm "died" off-screen and is more or less this trilogy's stand-in for Boba Fett, are we in agreement that she's coming back in a sequel? I don't know how she made it off the I think there was a really short scene of Chewie holding her cloak and Han giving a surprised look? I don't know what that was supposed to mean. please come back
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FutonForensic posted:Since Phantasm "died" off-screen and is more or less this trilogy's stand-in for Boba Fett, are we in agreement that she's coming back in a sequel? I don't know how she made it off the It's been confirmed that Phasma will be back for VIII and she will have a much larger role. Maybe she will serve as the main villain of VIII while Kylo is training with Snoke.
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FutonForensic posted:I think there was a really short scene of Chewie holding her cloak and Han giving a surprised look? I don't know what that was supposed to mean. The fan fiction for this movie is already going to be the greatest ever.
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I'm looking forward to the prequel, We Need to Talk About Kylo.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's been confirmed that Phasma will be back for VIII and she will have a much larger role. captain phasma is luke's ex, rey's mom and mara jade 
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I thought the coat was just JJ Abrams trying to make it clear that THIS IS NOT A CONTINUITY ERROR when Han kept going in and outside of the cold with his parka.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I thought the coat was just JJ Abrams trying to make it clear that THIS IS NOT A CONTINUITY ERROR when Han kept going in and outside of the cold with his parka. This
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I don't have any observation beyond this, but jackets/cloaks are kind of A Thing in this movie, like hats in Miller's Crossing or something.
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Frackie Robinson posted:I don't have any observation beyond this, but jackets/cloaks are kind of A Thing in this movie, like hats in Miller's Crossing or something. A very interesting point, especially since Act 1 literally takes place on the planet Jacket.
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Frackie Robinson posted:I don't have any observation beyond this, but jackets/cloaks are kind of A Thing in this movie, like hats in Miller's Crossing or something. Maybe add masks/helmets too, with Finn taking off his helmet paralleled with Rey and her scavenger getup immediately afterwards.
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FutonForensic posted:
That was his winter coat that he took off when they entered the base.
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