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Sickening posted:I have finally figured out WOTC secret reason for making standard a dumpster fire. They want everyone to play modern. Think of all the money they'll make by making the only format that sells cards unplayable!
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Why would they want people to play the format they're not selling cards for, and not play the format they're selling cards for Put differently, why would they not want to sell the cards for the format(s) that people want to play? (this is a question that has been around for much longer than any given dumpster-fire standard)
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Dec 29, 2015 06:08
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Standard has been a dumpster fire since Murdergoats rotated
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Dec 29, 2015 06:39
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Zemyla posted:Standard has been a dumpster fire since
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Dec 29, 2015 06:58
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There's still that game in the LGS basement of two RTR/INN Bant Control lists. It still hasn't ended.
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Where do I go for deck advice? Trying to throw together a black/red dragon deck to play casually with friends.
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Die Laughing posted:Where do I go for deck advice? Trying to throw together a black/red dragon deck to play casually with friends. Welcome to the Brewhouse
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Zemyla posted:Standard has been a dumpster fire since Murdergoats rotated i like this post
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where is the next stupid deck for goons to fawn over and declare standard saved until it sucks agains for a few months
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Four Score posted:where is the next stupid deck for goons to fawn over and declare standard saved until it sucks agains for a few months I dont know about you guys but I've been loving the various Aristocrats decks this standard, at least from affar, havent been playing. Rimusutera fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 10:35
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Rimusutera posted:I dont know about you guys but I've been loving the various Aristocrats decks this standard, at least from affar, havent been playing. They're great until you remember you have to play against that wanna-be pro with a $800 abzan/jeskai list.
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Four Score posted:where is the next stupid deck for goons to fawn over and declare standard saved until it sucks agains for a few months I actually like most of the decks in standard, except Abzan (just from fatigue, I think). The Damp Mardu / Charred Jeskai deck is cool because it feels like a modern deck — crazy mana base, plays a 2-mana Jace and good edicts and excellent card draw. Aristocrats is genuinely an interesting deck to watch happen. Ramp is great because big Eldrazi/Ugin are great. Esper Dragons is a solid control deck that's not dominant enough to be boring yet. And if you don't like watching RDW beat faces, you don't like Magic.
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Angry Grimace posted:I have this alternate theory where Mark Rosewater hosed up Well he hasn't killed magic yet, so clearly he's not exactly successful
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I guess there are some things to like about this standard. I like that there are some legitimate combo decks, and super mana combined with gold cards does create a high power format with a lot of decisions. The main issue I see is that the cost means you may as well just build a modern deck
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Dec 29, 2015 12:51
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I've enjoyed grinding Jeskai black matches in modo standard leagues these last few weeks 
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Dec 29, 2015 13:52
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It is a great deck from a Spike-type value perspective. It reminds me a lot of the Grixis Control deck in Modern, though Snapcaster is better for that deck than baby Jace.
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Gerry Thompson ran 4 flipjace at the last invitational playing grixis control and he did very well that weekend.
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While the original incarnation with Mantis Rider and Dig's felt powerful if clunky -- and had a surprising number of matches where I felt I was always on the precipice of just folding if I didn't draw just right or get my mana sequenced absolutely perfectly -- the versions with Monastery Mentor + Treasure Cruise feel almost unfair in comparison. I never feel like a dog and just spend matches grinding people to utter dust under a pile of value, cards, and monk tokens. Love standard!
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Gerry Thompson ran 4 flipjace at the last invitational playing grixis control and he did very well that weekend. Is this the Rise//Fall version? I think that one is geared more around discard than countermagic, so I guess then you can play 4 Jace and 4 Snapcasters and always get value out of the flashbacks.
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Zemyla posted:Standard has been a dumpster fire since
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Yawgmoth posted:FTFY. For all the whining people did about Whip being too good/OP/broken (lol @ that) I doubt we'll see a standard as interesting and fun as Theros/Tarkir for a long time. Also hating that whatever deck I build will invariably rotate at most 6 months after I build it so maybe I'll just have to quit standard until they change to a new rotation style in a couple of years. Meh, instead of the field being 40% abzan and jeskai it was just 40% abzan.
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Im just hoping that returning to innistrad gives us some cool new reanimator tools. We certainly have the targets. E: I think, Im still not used to the new block structure. I think we'll still have Dragonlords for briefly Bread Set Jettison fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 15:44
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DTK and Origins form a block so yeah, they'll be around throughout SoI block. We also have eldrazi lords with no anti-reanimation clause.
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Imagine three blocks on the edge of a cliff. Say a block is sent to the back of the line of blocks and takes the place of the first block. The formerly first block becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the third falls off the cliff. Standard works the same way.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Imagine three blocks on the edge of a cliff. Say a block is sent to the back of the line of blocks and takes the place of the first block. The formerly first block becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the third falls off the cliff. Yeah I get it, just not used to it yet. I was thinking of Atarka anyways.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:DTK and Origins form a block so yeah, they'll be around throughout SoI block. We also have eldrazi lords with no anti-reanimation clause. Exhume confirmed for SoI, you heard it here first guys. *is destroyed by WoTC for not reporting self*
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Imagine three blocks on the edge of a cliff. Say a block is sent to the back of the line of blocks and takes the place of the first block. The formerly first block becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the third falls off the cliff.
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Yawgmoth posted:Johnny5cardcombo.jpg Johnny Five Jaces
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Kill Shot for 1W seems good. White was already the best removal colour in BFZ.
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Lancelot posted:Kill Shot for 1W seems good. White was already the best removal colour in BFZ. What is black even for now
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Wurzag posted:What is black even for now rare removal that also hits planeswalkers, and Tasigur
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Wurzag posted:What is black even for now According to the current color pie, Black is secondary in creature removal and tertiary in siege rhino.
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Wurzag posted:What is black even for now tasigur and siege rhino
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Black is actually way better in removal than white, even in current Standard, it's just that white's removal (a) is cheaper because it's combat-related (which is not really a drawback in limited unless you're facing down a Valakut Invoker) and (b) generally appears at lower rarities than black's. It makes for better limited play, too, since you can play around attacking with your dude if they have Gideon's Reproach and mana up, but you can't really ever avoid Ruinous Path.
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pakman posted:tasigur and siege rhino You forgot crackling doom. Edit: Jori En really makes me want to splash red in Merfolk, as bad as that is. Like it's a horrible idea but I really want to try that horrible idea. You know, because casting spells in Merfolk isn't a thing after so long and Aether Vial isn't casting. Seems like a decent commander for EDH though if you aren't trying to be the douchebag playing Niv Mizzet. Also did that dudebro in Immolating Glare just toast Kozilek? Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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pretty piecture
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Lancelot posted:Black is actually way better in removal than white, even in current Standard, it's just that white's removal (a) is cheaper because it's combat-related (which is not really a drawback in limited unless you're facing down a Valakut Invoker) and (b) generally appears at lower rarities than black's. It makes for better limited play, too, since you can play around attacking with your dude if they have Gideon's Reproach and mana up, but you can't really ever avoid Ruinous Path. I mean reproach is a common and Ruinous Path is a rare and that plays a huge part in how good a color's removal is in limited. Zoness fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Count Bleck posted:You forgot crackling doom. I think it's just a giant Kozilek spawn.
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