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 "When another colorless creature enter in battlefield you can change the basic power and toughtness from Mimic Eldrazi for the power and toughtness from that creature until the end turn" "Is coherent incoherent"
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Dec 29, 2015 17:26
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Dec 29, 2015 17:27
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Immolating Glare has got to be Standard playable right? And that promo looks great.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:28
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Bugsy posted:
I'm guessing that it's actually "i(t)s coherently incoherent"
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Dec 29, 2015 17:28
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Rinkles posted:English version of this card Affinity wants this card I assume. Probably tron too, although I don't know how tight the land slots are.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:29
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Count Bleck posted:Edit: Jori En really makes me want to splash red in Merfolk, as bad as that is. You can cast it with Cavern of Souls so you at least don't have to dilute your mana base for it? 
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Dec 29, 2015 17:32
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Bugsy posted:
I like this card a lot. Also, if the flavor text is actually "It's coherently incoherent." then bravo to wizards because that's good flavor text. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 17:32
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Hellbent draw card is almost certainly too slow for affinity.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:33
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Sickening posted:Affinity wants this card I assume. Probably tron too, although I don't know how tight the land slots are. Tron has exactly one flex land slot and this isn't better than a second Ghost Quarter/Basic Forest or a Llanowar Wastes to enable a black sideboard splash (the normal build of R/G tron only has 20 actual land cards in it: 12 tron pieces, 4 groves, eye of ugin, basic forest, ghost quarter and one flex). If Tron's managed to empty its hand it has either won, lost or has Eye of Ugin and the mana for it on the table for much better card advantage than Sea Gate Wreckage atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 17:34
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Count Bleck posted:I like this card a lot. It does seem like a really solid card. My only question does it die to hangarback coming into play?
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Dec 29, 2015 17:34
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Sickening posted:It does seem like a really solid card. My only question does it die to hangarback coming into play? Given the translated text says "you can" I think it's a may effect.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:35
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Sickening posted:It does seem like a really solid card. My only question does it die to hangarback coming into play? Optional either way.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:36
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Zoness posted:Hellbent draw card is almost certainly too slow for affinity. How is it too slow? With drum, mox, and its knack of having an empty hand, the last thing I thought I would hear is "slow".
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Dec 29, 2015 17:36
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Bugsy posted:
It only triggers if the second colorless creature enters under your control. (Why's the translation back to English so broken? Neither the Spanish text nor the usual English templating says "enter in battlefield".)
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Dec 29, 2015 17:39
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Sickening posted:How is it too slow? With drum, mox, and its knack of having an empty hand, the last thing I thought I would hear is "slow". In my experience Affinity often has more trouble going from 1 or 2 to 0 cards than it does going from 7 to 2 cards. Those last couple of cards are often an extra land or a pair of two drops that are great, but will take two more full turns to put on the table
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Dec 29, 2015 17:39
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Sickening posted:It does seem like a really solid card. My only question does it die to hangarback coming into play? The text has a "puedes", so it's an optional effect.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:39
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Sickening posted:How is it too slow? With drum, mox, and its knack of having an empty hand, the last thing I thought I would hear is "slow". I haven't played affinity but I suspect the issue is that a lot of the time you'd rather activate some manlands. I'd still try out at least 2, I think, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being not good enough.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:40
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It only triggers if the second colorless creature enters under your control. I can't even read Spanish and I was still able to find "enters the battlefield" in that textbox. (Okay fine I can read some French and that help, but still)
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Dec 29, 2015 17:41
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UberJew posted:In my experience Affinity often has more trouble going from 1 or 2 to 0 cards than it does going from 7 to 2 cards. Those last couple of cards are often an extra land or a pair of two drops that are great, but will take two more full turns to put on the table My thoughts were unless the lands were tight having it as a one of would have no downside in affinity.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:42
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What does "Crumbling Vestige is a card many players have wanted for a while." mean? The commander crowd? (I keep seeing a withered Christmas tree)
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Dec 29, 2015 17:46
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Some Numbers posted:I can't even read Spanish and I was still able to find "enters the battlefield" in that textbox. I know the clause is there, I just want to know why the English translation words it so badly. The spanish text of that clause is "entre al campo de batalla" -- literally "enters to the battlefield", obviously best translated as "enters the battlefield". Then why does the given English translation say "enter in battlefield"? It's not like the spanish text says "entre en".
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Dec 29, 2015 17:48
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Lottery of Babylon posted:I know the clause is there, I just want to know why the English translation words it so badly. The spanish text of that clause is "entre al campo de batalla" -- literally "enters to the battlefield", obviously best translated as "enters the battlefield". Then why does the given English translation say "enter in battlefield"? It's not like the spanish text says "entre en". Oh, fair enough. I'd say it's probably due to good old fashioned incompetence, the same reason it says "P&T from that creature."
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Dec 29, 2015 17:51
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Rinkles posted:What does "Crumbling Vestige is a card many players have wanted for a while." mean? The commander crowd? It's kind of the standard "If I could design my own land, I'd make..." card. It's a very obvious design that has never been printed.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:53
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Sickening posted:My thoughts were unless the lands were tight having it as a one of would have no downside in affinity. They run 16; blinkmoth, inkmoth, glimmervoid and darksteel citadel, sometimes with a 17th for a single basic It's even tighter than tron really
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Dec 29, 2015 17:53
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Sickening posted:How is it too slow? With drum, mox, and its knack of having an empty hand, the last thing I thought I would hear is "slow". It's a land that can't attack, enable metalcraft, or provide colors. Those are the roles that affinity has for its lands. Post-board the deck is racing against the bevy of hate cards in the format. It doesn't matter how many cards you draw when your opponent can play 1-2 spells that shut down most of your deck. Not to mention your manlands tend to be the mana sink for the deck after your hand's been emptied or that you often need to hold a relevant spell or two. A land that isn't online until turn 3 or turn 4 is by definition too slow. It's possible that there could be a more controlling value based version of affinity but this land wouldn't really help affinity deal with the primary weakness the deck has (i.e. most of the deck being dead against a few sb cards).
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Dec 29, 2015 17:53
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Bugsy posted:
Eldrazi Mimic When another colorless creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may change Eldrazi Mimic's base power and toughness to the power and toughness of that creature until end of turn. "It's coherently incoherent."
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Dec 29, 2015 17:57
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I like that the art mirrors the original Oran Rief  Fish Of Doom fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 18:16
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Lottery of Babylon posted:I know the clause is there, I just want to know why the English translation words it so badly. The spanish text of that clause is "entre al campo de batalla" -- literally "enters to the battlefield", obviously best translated as "enters the battlefield". Then why does the given English translation say "enter in battlefield"? It's not like the spanish text says "entre en". Because someone ran it through Google translate and was too lazy to clean it up.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:20
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oh have a picture of eternal pilgrim that doesn't cover up the name
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Dec 29, 2015 18:20
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suicidesteve posted:Because someone ran it through Google translate and was too lazy to clean it up. That's the thing -- since "en" isn't in the original text, Google translate doesn't put "in" in the english text there. It's wrong in a very distinct way from automated translations. Google translate also doesn't drop the "under your control" clause for no reason. (Not that Google translate is any better: "Colorless Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, you can change the strength and the base of Mimico eldrazi resistance to the strength and endurance of that creature until end of turn.") 
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Dec 29, 2015 18:25
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Lottery of Babylon posted:I know the clause is there, I just want to know why the English translation words it so badly. The spanish text of that clause is "entre al campo de batalla" -- literally "enters to the battlefield", obviously best translated as "enters the battlefield". Then why does the given English translation say "enter in battlefield"? It's not like the spanish text says "entre en". it's entirely possible whoever translated it just doesn't have the best grasp of english or you know, it's a typo
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Dec 29, 2015 18:26
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mandatory lesbian posted:it's entirely possible whoever translated it just doesn't have the best grasp of english or you know, it's a typo unacceptable unacceptable
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Dec 29, 2015 18:27
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Lottery of Babylon posted:unacceptable I'm really glad I don't get this mad (ironically or not) over how bad most Japanese to English translations are.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:31
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it's unacceptably acceptable also, there is no way a card that lets you draw a card if you're hellbent for 4 mana is good enough for affinity; even if you have the mana to activate it that's your whole turn, and you can't afford to be not attacking with manlands
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Dec 29, 2015 18:34
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UberJew posted:They run 16; blinkmoth, inkmoth, glimmervoid and darksteel citadel, sometimes with a 17th for a single basic Usually the build is 4 inkmoth, 4 blinkmoth, 4 citadel, 3 glimmervoid, 1 basic. 17 land lists will add the 4th glimmervoid. The deck runs very light on lands due to springleaf and mox opal, having more mana sources that are artifacts are important. To get that draw card in, you'd need to either bump up to 17 lands keeping the 4/4/4/3/1 or possibly cut the basic land. It can be done, and I'm sure it will be tested. It is probably better than the 1-2 thoughtcasts some builds run.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:58
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I feel like that land is only better then thoughtcast if you go towards a less colored build of affinity, which is prob not gonna happen since galvanic blast is good enough to encourage having colored mana sources anyway so hey thoughtcast is a fine splash too
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Dec 29, 2015 20:05
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Bugsy posted:
This feels hilariously abusable.
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Dec 29, 2015 20:18
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Alris posted:This feels hilariously abusable. How?
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Dec 29, 2015 20:19
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No idea. I've just got this... feeling, y'know?
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Phyrexian Dreadnought.
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