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DynamicSloth posted:The latter notion is highly delusional, Huckabee and Santorum are running the classic bet everything on Iowa campaigns that they ran before and while everything about their 2016 campaigns has been a humiliating delusion I doubt either of them think they can really continue after finishing behind Jeb Bush. This reads more to me like a few operatives who bet everything on the previous Iowa winners looking for their next job in 35 days. Santorum is a Catholic and he won Iowa... Also Rubio attends two churches: A Catholic one, and an Evangelical one. He's got this covered.
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Hilton Head is the perfect stop for a Trump rally; it's the whitest place I've ever taken a vacation. And I've been to Gatlinburg Tennessee.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:18
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DynamicSloth posted:That said Huckabee and Santorum are going to be throwing everything they have at Cruz, to diminish their humiliation if nothing else, but they're not going to tell their evangelical supporters to go vote for a Catholic instead. Though he falls way outside the norm, Santorum is a catholic.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:18
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Montasque posted:Santorum is a Catholic and he won Iowa... Also Rubio attends two churches: A Catholic one, and an Evangelical one. He's got this covered. Are we sure he actually attends services or does he just send a group of pillows that they paste a picture of his face on the top of and set in a pew?
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Dec 30, 2015 18:19
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Halloween Jack posted:Hilton Head is the perfect stop for a Trump rally; it's the whitest place I've ever taken a vacation. And I've been to Gatlinburg Tennessee. yknow i was thinking gatlinburg would be a good trump stop as well, because its the trashiest place on the planet
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DynamicSloth posted:This reads more to me like a few operatives who bet everything on the previous Iowa winners looking for their next job in 35 days. Iowa ground game operative is such a niche field, I can't fault them for trying to maximize their earnings before the long three year wait until the next season. At least the campaigning season keeps getting longer, so they can start work again sooner each cycle.
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Why would you campaign with Trey Gowdy of all people? He just got embarrassed in front of the whole country
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also i would pay money to see pope frank do brutal bouncer choke holds on rick santorum
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Montasque posted:Santorum is a Catholic and he won Iowa... Also Rubio attends two churches: A Catholic one, and an Evangelical one. He's got this covered. Yeah but one of those crazy, doesn't-believe-in-evolution-even-though-nobody-asked-him-too Catholics, his support is also half a percentage point in Iowa right now, so this conversation is really about Huckabee who could conceivably move a few percentage points to Rubio if he was really spiteful.
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blue squares posted:Why would you campaign with Trey Gowdy of all people? He just got embarrassed in front of the whole country Very popular among radical right South Carolinians.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:21
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Montasque posted:Santorum is a Catholic and he won Iowa... Also Rubio attends two churches: A Catholic one, and an Evangelical one. He's got this covered. Rubio is also an ex-Mormon who tries to appeal to Mormon voters by having his campaign bring up his heritage. (I'm deeply skeptical that Mormons will be particularly impressed by an apostate, but Rubio thinks this is a winning tack out West)
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Dec 30, 2015 18:28
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Funny that Trump's support in IA might be counting a bunch of people who say yooge wundafrul things about Trump on the phone and internet but don't know anything about how to make Trump happen in the caucus. Then again, a caucus is different from a primary ballot process so it's entirely possible he could lose Iowa to Cruz or whatever, then come right back and crush everyone in NH and all primaries after that. It would be neat to see how he reacts if he does lose Iowa and NH, though.
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DynamicSloth posted:Yeah but one of those crazy, doesn't-believe-in-evolution-even-though-nobody-asked-him-too Catholics, his support is also half a percentage point in Iowa right now, so this conversation is really about Huckabee who could conceivably move a few percentage points to Rubio if he was really spiteful. The point on Santorum is that Iowa evangelicals will vote for a Catholic. Also Rubio is a zero-tolerance-for-abortion-even-in-cases-of-rape-or-incest kind of Catholic, and compared to Cruz that's a far more social conservative stance. EDIT:  Oh boy... Montasque fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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Trump is constantly reminding people at his rallies in Iowa to get out to caucus, I think he is aware of the problem. Also, didn't see the one from 2 days ago, but yesterday he was showing off his Bible and telling everyone how evangelical he is, even repeated his sick burn that he doesn't know many evangelicals that come from Cuba.
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Trump Rally Roundup from the press box for those (like me) who can't watch but want the full #TrumpDeathRally experience:                        I don't care how long this post is e: I was fooled too, Jenna     
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Dec 30, 2015 18:38
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man trump is still super pissy about that time obama styled all over him at the WHCA dinner, huh
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Hey H5N1, how are you feeling about the Jeb! campaignt today?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Jesus christ Marco loving try Busses is pleb poo poo. Marco is all about the money and luxury. He isn't in politics to govern.
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paranoid randroid posted:yknow i was thinking gatlinburg would be a good trump stop as well, because its the trashiest place on the planet
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Montasque posted:The point on Santorum is that Iowa evangelicals will vote for a Catholic. Also Rubio is a zero-tolerance-for-abortion-even-in-cases-of-rape-or-incest kind of Catholic, and compared to Cruz that's a far more social conservative stance. Unsurprisingly Cruz also opposes abortion even for rape or incest, I'm really sceptical that Huckabee can prosecute this Cruz isn't really a social conservative loon case because Cruz in fact is a social conservative loon.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:48
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DynamicSloth posted:Unsurprisingly Cruz also opposes abortion even for rape or incest, I'm really sceptical that Huckabee can prosecute this Cruz isn't really a social conservative loon case because Cruz in fact is a social conservative loon. Unless he's grifting for cash in New York, that is
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DynamicSloth posted:Unsurprisingly Cruz also opposes abortion even for rape or incest, I'm really sceptical that Huckabee can prosecute this Cruz isn't really a social conservative loon case because Cruz in fact is a social conservative loon. He is a social conservative loon, but they can hit him. Cruz stated that same sex marriage is a states rights issue, many in the religious right are uneasy with that stand, and take it to believe that Cruz will play the 'states rights' card on abortions as well. EDIT: Epic High Five posted:Unless he's grifting for cash in New York, that is Cruz is OK if you're gay... as long as you're a billionaire: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/politics/at-new-york-reception-ted-cruz-is-said-to-strike-different-tone-toward-gays.html http://www.texastribune.org/2012/07/03/ted-cruzs-gay-billionaire-donor-draws-criticism/ Montasque fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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Dec 30, 2015 18:55
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Cruz says all the code words and makes the right hand signs but if people are convinced it's not in good faith it isn't worth poo poo.
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Really? Trump's making GBS threads on people not using stuff with CFCs in it? This really is the goddamn 90s all over. 
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I'm really hoping some journalist eventually brings up that if Jeb! is such an incompetent loser, and Trump is such an amazing negotiator then why couldn't he get that casino built while Jeb! was Governor? Who's more of a loser, the loser or the person who loses to the loser? I think Trump would go nuclear.
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One of the things that's quite interesting about Trumps self-promotion when talking about Penn is that he says he "went to an Ivy League school" rather than being specific, perhaps because he doesn't think most people know any Ivy's other than Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Which is pretty outdated, given that Wharton (at Penn) is arguably the best business school in the world, and Columbia is second after Harvard from the Ivy's in most university rankings nowadays (constantly switching with Princeton and almost always ahead of Yale). So is it insecurity? Or correct judgement about the knowledge of the GOP base?
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Epic High Five posted:Unless he's grifting for cash in New York, that is There's really nothing on that tape that suggests he's anything less than a conservative loon, Huckabee's ad had to cut him off half way through a sentence to make it seem like he was approaching unorthodoxy. Cruz's position isn't any different than anything Rubio will say and it hasn't changed from the positions he brought to Vander Plaats and the other evangelical mavens. Huckabee certainly has his angle but he doesn't have much of a network left and even less money and no access to the debate stage. Rubio is too smart to go on the debate stage and say he's going to end gay marriage in New York state, his biggest funder has a son whose marriage he'd be advocating be overturned. Montasque posted:Cruz is OK if you're gay... as long as you're a billionaire: DynamicSloth fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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DynamicSloth posted:
Where did anyone say Rubio was going to use this as an attack? It's obvious that Santorum and Huckabee will be attacking Cruz from the right on social issues, and Rubio will attack him on the right on national security. Also many social conservatives will not take kindly to the fact that Cruz is taking money from gay billionaires.
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Shakugan posted:One of the things that's quite interesting about Trumps self-promotion when talking about Penn is that he says he "went to an Ivy League school" rather than being specific, perhaps because he doesn't think most people know any Ivy's other than Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Which is pretty outdated, given that Wharton (at Penn) is arguably the best business school in the world, and Columbia is second after Harvard from the Ivy's in most university rankings nowadays (constantly switching with Princeton and almost always ahead of Yale). Why be specific? If he went to an Ivy League, then just say it. You don't have to potentially alienate the people who went to college A, just because you went to college B. If I were running for a public office I'd reference my State School education rather then say the specific school unless asked directly.
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DynamicSloth posted:There's really nothing on that tape that suggests he's anything less than a conservative loon, Huckabee's ad had to cut him off half way through a sentence to make it seem like he was approaching unorthodoxy. Actual positions may not matter for circular firing squad purposes, just whether or not the Target can be branded as an Other. With luck they ll all discredit each other.
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Is "bill Clinton was also a rapist" a winning strategy for the election against Hillary?
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This is like something Colbert would have come up with.quote:Kitfox88 posted:Really? Trump's making GBS threads on people not using stuff with CFCs in it? DynamicSloth posted:Cruz in fact is a social conservative loon. Montasque posted:Cruz is OK if you're gay... as long as you're a billionaire:
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Montasque posted:Where did anyone say Rubio was going to use this as an attack? It's obvious that Santorum and Huckabee will be attacking Cruz from the right on social issues, and Rubio will attack him on the right on national security.
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the door to trumps inner sanctum opens with a pneumatic hiss. tendrils of hairspray vapor creep across the floor like smoke from dry ice.
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Powercrazy posted:Why be specific? If he went to an Ivy League, then just say it. You don't have to potentially alienate the people who went to college A, just because you went to college B. If I were running for a public office I'd reference my State School education rather then say the specific school unless asked directly. This whole discussion is a bit silly since he also mentions Wharton by name frequently.
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I can't believe how excited I am about the Jeb campaign!
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Shakugan posted:One of the things that's quite interesting about Trumps self-promotion when talking about Penn is that he says he "went to an Ivy League school" rather than being specific, perhaps because he doesn't think most people know any Ivy's other than Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Which is pretty outdated, given that Wharton (at Penn) is arguably the best business school in the world, and Columbia is second after Harvard from the Ivy's in most university rankings nowadays (constantly switching with Princeton and almost always ahead of Yale). Trump's Iowa supporters don't even know what a caucus is, so
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Vox Nihili posted:This whole discussion is a bit silly since he also mentions Wharton by name frequently. That's true too.
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