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Groovelord Neato posted:most of the "nostalgia" stuff is organic to the plot (the holochess is fanservice but not a great deal of the rest). people seem to forget it's a sequel. sequels tend to have callbacks/references to previous events. maybe it's because we had three movies and three decades separating us from the originals. Dude has a point, all six star wars movies he did are pretty different things. I mean, doesn't change the fact that the prequels were boring poo poo and Force Awakens was a fun space adventure for the whole family, but still
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boom boom boom posted:Dude has a point, all six star wars movies he did are pretty different things. I mean, doesn't change the fact that the prequels were boring poo poo and Force Awakens was a fun space adventure for the whole family, but still return of the jedi has them destroying another death star. Chill la Chill posted:I can tell you that Luke's training remote being found in the falcon is something that is NOT a plot hole. is there a wookipedia article about how han got one of those on the falcon to begin with since we know from the definitely canon and not at all inconsistent with the original films prequels that those things were only at the jedi academy. also they all wore spaceship helmets too.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:55
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Groovelord Neato posted:return of the jedi has them destroying another death star. And tatooine shows up in like, 5/6 Lucas films
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Dec 31, 2015 02:57
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Groovelord Neato posted:
I'm sure Obi-Wan Kenobi had a good reason to have a ton of standard issue jedi training gear and not doing make shift training with stuff that was on hand. Gammatron 64 posted:Same, man. What George had planned would probably suck, but I want to know what his insane autistic mind cooked up that Disney turned down. Cuckstaff.
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Dec 31, 2015 03:01
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Groovelord Neato posted:return of the jedi has them destroying another death star. Yes To be honest, they're nothing special about it. It's just a training drone, either for close-combat or with blasters. I'm pretty sure Han had one to keep up with his blaster skills, or use as a distraction if poo poo went down.
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Dec 31, 2015 03:09
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lmao During the time of the Galactic Republic, Jedi Younglings would practice Shii-Cho with these remotes. Form I, also known as Shii-Cho, The Way of the Sarlacc, or The Determination Form, was the first of the seven forms of lightsaber combat. This combat form was developed during the transitional period within the Jedi Order from ancient metal swords to more contemporary lightsabers.
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Dec 31, 2015 03:23
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I present to you the ANH "Mary Sue/Marty Stu" rewrite. For the writer who thinks Luke is too human and relatable and should've been as perfect, plastic and flawless as Rey. Because boys need role models who are superior to themselves in every way. *Luke is an expert survivalist living on his own in Tatooine. He isn't subservient to Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. He loyally waits for a lost companion to return. *Luke steals R2-D2 from a Tusken Raider on a Bantha who has captured R2-D2. The Tusken just watches and rides away. *Luke can understand everything R2-D2 says. C-3PO is written out since he's not needed to translate. *R2-D2 follows Luke around obediently instead of running away and generally just thinks Luke's awesome. *Luke meets Obi-Wan and tells him he's just a nobody and didn't even know the Force was real. Obi-Wan hands Luke his father's saber and then disappears from the movie. No training required. *Luke experiences a "vision" upon touching the saber for unexplained reasons. Magic lightsaber? *Luke enters the Cantina and knocks down Ponda Baba and Dr. Evazan with a stick when they threaten him. *Luke finds the Falcon with only Chewie inside as TIE Fighters start bombing the area. He jumps in and flies it with some wild maneuvers through Beggar's Canyon while Chewie works the gun port. They destroy the TIEs and return to get Han. *Chewie is injured while running from Stormtroopers to get to the Falcon and Luke takes over as co-pilot. *Luke fixes the Falcon's malfunctions by himself before Han can figure out what to do. *Han is so impressed with Luke that by the time they get to the remains of Alderaan, he offers Luke a permanent job. *They sneak into the back door of the Death Star unnoticed and somehow instantly find Leia's cell. *Luke uses the Jedi Mind Trick on the guards at Leia's cell to get inside. (First time the Jedi Mind Trick appears in the movie.) *Leia says Luke is amazing, thanks him and won't stop talking about wanting to run away with him and devote herself to helping him. Luke is not interested and says he just wants to be friends. *Han somehow instantly finds the head Stormtrooper Commander and says he'll kill him if he doesn't shut down the tractor beam. The Stormtrooper Commander complies and they throw him in the trash compactor. *Darth Vader finds the heroes. Luke watches as Han Solo confronts Darth Vader and is killed. *Luke attacks Darth Vader and holds his own. He drops his saber but he is able to Force grab it before Vader can. (First time Force grab is seen in the movie.) Vader offers to train Luke. Luke lands several blows on Vader and cuts off his hand while remaining unscathed and Vader collapses in a heap. But there is an explosion that ruptures the platform between them and Luke must join Leia, Chewie and R2 back on the Falcon. *Meanwhile, Wedge leads a small squad to do a bombing run on the Death Star. He easily hits the target without facing much resistance or even thinking about it much and the Death Star blows up. *Luke officially joins the Rebellion at the end of the movie and is instantly selected to pilot a ship on a vital mission they've been waiting years to do. Their best pilot who just blew up the Death Star, Wedge, is passed over.
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Dec 31, 2015 04:35
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Hey guy who was wondering if there are people explicitly mad about Rey, you can look at the post right above mine.
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Dec 31, 2015 04:50
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Dr. Lariat posted:I present to you the ANH "Mary Sue/Marty Stu" rewrite. For the writer who thinks Luke is too human and relatable and should've been as perfect, plastic and flawless as Rey. Because boys need role models who are superior to themselves in every way. lmao
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Dec 31, 2015 04:55
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Phasma just going "ok, you got me. I'll shut down the thing. Grr" was really stupid
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Dec 31, 2015 05:04
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Dr. Lariat posted:I present to you the ANH "Mary Sue/Marty Stu" rewrite. For the writer who thinks Luke is too human and relatable and should've been as perfect, plastic and flawless as Rey. Because boys need role models who are superior to themselves in every way. my wife, rey skywalker, is indeed cool and awesome
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Dec 31, 2015 05:46
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Dr. Lariat posted:I present to you the ANH "Mary Sue/Marty Stu" rewrite. For the writer who thinks Luke is too human and relatable and should've been as perfect, plastic and flawless as Rey. Because boys need role models who are superior to themselves in every way. tl;dr you need to take a chill pill
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Dec 31, 2015 05:52
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Dr. Lariat posted:I present to you the ANH "Mary Sue/Marty Stu" rewrite. For the writer who thinks Luke is too human and relatable and should've been as perfect, plastic and flawless as Rey. Because boys need role models who are superior to themselves in every way. 
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Dec 31, 2015 06:24
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Dr. Lariat posted:I present to you the ANH "Mary Sue/Marty Stu" rewrite. For the writer who thinks Luke is too human and relatable and should've been as perfect, plastic and flawless as Rey. Because boys need role models who are superior to themselves in every way. i just want you to know i didn't read this, and i'm never going to
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Dec 31, 2015 06:36
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Dr. Lariat posted:I present to you the ANH "Mary Sue/Marty Stu" rewrite. For the writer who thinks Luke is too human and relatable and should've been as perfect, plastic and flawless as Rey. Because boys need role models who are superior to themselves in every way. source your quotnevermind it's from imdb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/board/thread/252049846
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Dec 31, 2015 08:11
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Star Wars needs a space asian that can do space kung fu.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:13
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New movie was good. Rey is sorta a mary sue but who cares, its loving star wars, not game of thrones (which actually has a mary sue). Finn and Rey have great chemistry and i want to see more of them and less of the old crew. bb-8 is the best, that thumbs up. Now im going to  to people complaining about callbacks and references. How to do it wrong- Remember how obi wan casually mentioned an old war called the clone wars? Well it was a war fought with clones. And everyone was there, and its a whole movie, and those clones are stormtroopers. How to do it wrong- I used to be a vault hunter like you, then i took a bullet to the knee How to do it right- A character is digging through junk and tosses aside an iconic prop from a previous movie. No further mention or attention is paid to this item. Nobody stops and says "well this is useless, i bet only IDIOTS would train a jedi like this" while looking at the camera and then winking.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:14
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:Star Wars needs a space asian that can do space kung fu. How about one that's literally described as a "near human," known for being particularly inscrutable? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Epicanthix
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Dec 31, 2015 08:17
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Double Monocle posted:New movie was good. Lol what you going on about. ANH wasn't made after the clone wars movie holy lol Kids these days yeesh
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Dec 31, 2015 08:19
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Snatch Duster posted:Lol what you going on about. ANH wasn't made after the clone wars movie holy lol I was mentioning how 1 throw away line from obi wan in anh was turned into an entire movie because lucas has autism. or is this that new trolling thing all the kids are doing nowadays?
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Dec 31, 2015 08:22
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Snatch Duster posted:Lol what you going on about. ANH wasn't made after the clone wars movie holy lol Clone Wars movie was a callback to the throwaway line in ANH. Hope this helps.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:25
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Loden Taylor posted:source your quotnevermind it's from imdb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/board/thread/252049846 quote:The sad thing is OP'S hypothetical plot synopsis isn't even remotely an exaggeration of what Di$$$ney foisted on the public with this Rey caricature. quote:Awesome. When seen from this perspective, I can understand now why I was underwhelmed by TFA. quote:Well this should get feminist undies up in a bundle. lol quote:No one in the movie thought she was nerdy, pushy or arrogant. They kept falling in love with her and offering her jobs.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:28
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can you believe that HAN SOLO offered a GIRL a JOB?
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I liked how one of my friends didn't really like TFA because "It's a rehash. There's another Death Star in it". Funnily enough he didn't have a problem with the Death Star II in ROTJ.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:28
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They burned through so many tropes and callbacks in 7 that 8 and 9 may actually be a little bit out there in terms of things happening we haven't seen before.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:38
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I wonder if people forget that Luke was a farmboy who somehow could accurately shoot a blaster at multiple trained troopers, not get shot in the process and pilot an x wing like no thang.
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Weird BIAS posted:I wonder if people forget that Luke was a farmboy who somehow could accurately shoot a blaster at multiple trained troopers, not get shot in the process and pilot an x wing like no thang. it's not suprising rey was even harder from the get go, knowing how to lay fools out with her mighty black stick. she was a space-poor who didn have luke's comfortable upper middle class upbrining. (two cars, a bunch of droids, a spacious house, AND his own private aircraft?!)
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Dec 31, 2015 08:47
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Rey should have done a monologue about landspeeder positraction when she was bartering with the space pawn broker.
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Dec 31, 2015 09:51
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Double Monocle posted:New movie was good. Littlefinger?
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Dec 31, 2015 09:58
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It's definitely that fat nerd rasing that other dude's baby with the homeless girl that got some for being the nice guy.
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Weird BIAS posted:I wonder if people forget that Luke was a farmboy who somehow could accurately shoot a blaster at multiple trained troopers, not get shot in the process and pilot an x wing like no thang. He has a hunting rifle. One of my old toys was a farm boy version that came with one. Sometimes, for some people, it's more believable when the character gets some bit of help by space magic instead of wholly gaining new skills because of it. That crosses the line for that forbidden term we argue about here. But hey thats IMO.
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aside from the mind trick what new skills does rey pick up since she was established to have some skills beforehand (fighting, ship stuff) all i can think of is piloting which seems par for the course considering her lineage
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Piloting and mechanic along with the force stuff. Scavenging doesn't imply skills with either of those and we might have had an indication of her being a gifted mechanic if they had shown some gizmos she made in her hovel. Like, idk, how they showed Anakin making a robot when he was 9. That it was C3PO was dumb but they showed he was mechanically competent. Apparently there's some concept art of Rey with an ugly ship that implies she made and possibly used it. Mix of XYB. Maybe they should've showed that? Would've been a nice set of throwbacks to add to the checklist and establishes competence with those skills and voila, not as (forbidden word) anymore. Parallels with Luke playing around with his Sky hopper too. 
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Double Monocle posted:New movie was good. Bran? Jon Snow? Ramsay Bolton (well he's not likable but he's been getting away with everything so far)?
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Loden Taylor posted:source your quotnevermind it's from imdb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/board/thread/252049846 this guy has his own blog where he posts this garbage that he happily advertises. he actually thinks he's a film critic
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Rey's not a Mary Sue because she was trained in all this poo poo before with her dad. When Kylo slaughtered everyone he spared Rey and mind wiped her. Then he stuck her in shithole Jakku and implanted the fear of leaving to keep her there. Kind of like what happened with Revan. If this isn't true ill eat my own balls.
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Otisburg posted:How about one that's literally described as a "near human," known for being particularly inscrutable? Holy loving poo poo.  See also: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Korun It's really hosed up that they let really racist poo poo fly in the Star Wars EU by saying that blacks and Asians are literally different species. God loving drat it Star Wars
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Gammatron 64 posted:Holy loving poo poo. It's not EU, buddy. It's official canon. Mace Windu is a Korun.
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I still feel like the twi'lek are my favorite in terms of dumb, hosed up poo poo. "Our homework is a literal shitholes fellow twi'leks. How should we fix it?" "Um... gently caress, I dunno, let's just sell our strangely-universally-regarded-as-bangin' women into slavery. Surely they'll have better lives and not be forced to engage in sexual acts with horrible people!" Edit: Also I guess they used slavery as an alternative to developing a space program.
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If the original trilogy came out now, people would be ranting about Leia, lol. "They show up to rescue her, and she doesn't even show an ounce of respect. Suddenly, SHE'S the one saving them? Can practically hear the director going, ' see what we're doing, we're SUBVERTING the damsel-in-distress trope, they thought she was the damsel, but she's nothing like what they expected, aren't we progressive, wink wink!' Really hate this new pandering from Hollywood, can't wait until it stops." "Leia resisting the probe took me right out of the movie. The friggin' Space Nazis can't even break a spoiled noble slash diplomat? What'd that torture robot do, tickle her a little?" "Yeah, OBVIOUSLY Han Solo falls in love with her. She treats him like dirt from the start, obviously doesn't respect his profession or lifestyle, constantly insults him to remind him how much better she is, but somehow, out of all the women he could pick, she's the one?" "How can Leia strangle a Hutt? That's insane and not even physically possible. There's no way she is strong enough. What right does she have to kill Jabba, anyway? He's Han Solo's enemy. Han deserved the kill, hands down. If the writer was decent, Solo would've confronted him, face to face, to spell out just how screwed Jabba is and pay him back for the humiliation of making Han into a decoration. I would've done a call-back to the Greedo scene (Jabba goes for a hidden blaster but Han gets him first). But, oh, Jabba made Leia wear a bikini and is mean to girls, so she's gotta be the one to 'punish' him for it." "And of course she's a Skywalker. Just to make it clear to everyone that she's the second-most important character (first??? Vader and Yoda both seem way too interested in her) and Han Solo is just her love interest."
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