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Palpatine killed Plagueis. That's how Sith rise to power: by killing their masters.
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Snoke is Admiral Piett, who miraculously survived the destruction of the Executor's bridge at Endor, but at the cost of some nasty head scars.
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Dec 31, 2015 07:14
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enraged_camel posted:Palpatine killed Plagueis. That's how Sith rise to power: by killing their masters. Which is why I said it would be dumb. The only way to do this would be to retcon his death as either a lie or he gets revived somehow.
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Dec 31, 2015 07:28
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Didn't read the whole thread, but I figured out the explanation for Threepio's arm... in the interim between films he started a private military company called the Diamond Droids, clearly. 
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Dec 31, 2015 07:55
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Fuzz posted:Didn't read the whole thread, but I figured out the explanation for Threepio's arm... in the interim between films he started a private military company called the Diamond Droids, clearly. Threepio knows words that kill in thousands of languages.
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Dec 31, 2015 09:16
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So, according to google, Snoke is Norwegian for "snoop." This would be an obvious way to parallel Vader meaning "father." Snoke = Snoop Dogg?
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Dec 31, 2015 09:26
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AccountSupervisor posted:Which is why I said it would be dumb. The only way to do this would be to retcon his death as either a lie or he gets revived somehow. Plagueis was specifically called out as having power over life and death. Snoke has scars from what look like fatal wounds (especially the head divot).
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Dec 31, 2015 09:30
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greatn posted:I'm kind of hoping they elaborate or at least acknowledge C3P0's relationship to Like and Leia: their brother. He shares the same father and that's interesting. One of Lucas's worst shoe horns in a movie full of them.
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Dec 31, 2015 10:12
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AccountSupervisor posted:And from Aftermath: So basically this new trilogy is a spiritual sequel to KOTOR2
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Dec 31, 2015 11:51
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davecrazy posted:One of Lucas's worst shoe horns in a movie full of them.  Surely, a scene like this could've only improved ESB. Weird that Lucas didn't cram it in there for the very beloved Bluray editions
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Dec 31, 2015 11:54
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TheMaestroso posted:*record skips again* I'm starting to think Rey was partially trained then Jedi mindwiped to protect her. Kylo getting in her brain near Mas' bar unlocked something within her.
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Dec 31, 2015 12:50
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I really hope that Rey is nothing more than some unwanted orphan who by sheer luck (or divine will) is blessed with Force sensitivity. There's a wonderful charm to that. Not everyone in the Star Wars universe should be connected.
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Dec 31, 2015 12:54
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Krowley posted:So basically this new trilogy is a spiritual sequel to KOTOR2 i'm okay with this
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Dec 31, 2015 13:24
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Fuzz posted:Didn't read the whole thread, but I figured out the explanation for Threepio's arm... in the interim between films he started a private military company called the Diamond Droids, clearly.  Anyway, I can't wait for the movie where Poe will use BB-8 to seduce Hux with its sexuality.
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Dec 31, 2015 13:28
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Popcornicus posted:Plagueis was specifically called out as having power over life and death. Snoke has scars from what look like fatal wounds (especially the head divot). It's funny that so many fans vilify the PT and want them to be forgotten, yet so desperately want Snoke to be Darth Plagueis. I'm not convinced Plagueis was real because that story Palpatine told Anakin was perfectly tailored to turn him to the dark side. Considering the Plagueis novel isn't canon anymore and Palpatine doesn't explicitly state Plagueis was his mentor (has Disney confirmed this?), I feel like Snoke isn't a callback to a very obscure PT reference.
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Dec 31, 2015 13:29
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I saw it yesterday, and feel it managed to be a strong additional to the series. My criticisms of it seem to echo comments already made here; I too found it failed to explain geopolitics such that I was unmoved by them blowing up the planets. And I felt it did a really poor job of giving the impression of the enormity of space or the passing of time. There was the bit when Rey was first talking to BB-8 where the performance/delivery seemed a bit off but otherwise I felt all the performances and dialogue hit the right notes. Finn's transformation from brainwashed trooper was maybe a bit to conveniently rapid (Aeryn Sun's arch done in an afternoon) but not something I'll pick at. Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 13:40
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Shoren posted:It's funny that so many fans vilify the PT and want them to be forgotten, yet so desperately want Snoke to be Darth Plagueis. I'm not convinced Plagueis was real because that story Palpatine told Anakin was perfectly tailored to turn him to the dark side. Considering the Plagueis novel isn't canon anymore and Palpatine doesn't explicitly state Plagueis was his mentor (has Disney confirmed this?), I feel like Snoke isn't a callback to a very obscure PT reference. Yeah it's kinda dumb and they're definitely not gonna bring in this guy who was barely mentioned once in a movie trilogy most people feel content on ignoring, and feature him as the main baddie I guess it might tickle your brain if you're the kinda EU-loving guy who actually knows what The Emperor's first name is, but for me that theory is a solid 'meeeh' Now let's discuss whether Kreia will show up as a force ghost, and for whom
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Dec 31, 2015 13:50
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Krowley posted:
God the prequels were awful. Of course it would of made too much sense to make C3PO the protocol droid of some low ranking functionary in the employee of Bail Organa and R2D2 as the astromech of one of his best pilots (who did they said owned them in ANH? Captain Antilles?) and via whatever circumstances they wind up in the direct orbit of the people who ultimately lead the rebel alliance (and therefore near/around Princess Leia). But nope, got to make one literary built by Darth loving Vader and the other one a repair man on Luke Skywalkers mothers space plane. davecrazy fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 14:09
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Krowley posted:Yeah it's kinda dumb and they're definitely not gonna bring in this guy who was barely mentioned once in a movie trilogy most people feel content on ignoring, and feature him as the main baddie It's as "dumb" as introducing yet another big bad who lingered in the shadows all this time and noone knew about. The good thing about Plagueis isn't his connection to the PT and it also isn't important that everything is connected but his character makes at least more sense than a totally "new" one. They could of course call him something else and have a similar backstory but then I wonder for what purpose? It's not like there is anything to lose if you do make him Plagueis so the question kinda becomes why shouldn't he be? That he is only mentioned once in the PT (one mention of the Clone Wars in the OT was enough for them in the PT  ) is actually an advantage, he would still be a "surprise" for most of the audience and doesn't bring a lot of backstory baggage with him (except the whole create life thing which could be used in an interesting way).I mean I'm usually also not a fan of such stuff but in this case I'd really prefer it to Snoke just being another dark side user who was on vacation while everything in the OT and PT went down, it would feel kind of forced if he came out of nowhere. LinkesAuge fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 14:10
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:How long of time is there between TPM and TFA? 66 years. TPM is set 32 years before ANH, TFA is 34 years after it.
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Dec 31, 2015 14:20
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Krowley posted:So basically this new trilogy is a spiritual sequel to KOTOR2 They have free reign to pick and choose whatever they want from Legends EU and craft a new EU from its better parts so Im guessing were going to see a lot of familiar elements throughout the new series.
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Dec 31, 2015 14:21
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Krowley posted:So basically this new trilogy is a spiritual sequel to KOTOR2 Kreia was the best, so I'm fine with this.
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Dec 31, 2015 14:24
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The MSJ posted:
Please tell me you made this. 
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Dec 31, 2015 14:37
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Kurzon posted:I really hope that Rey is nothing more than some unwanted orphan who by sheer luck (or divine will) is blessed with Force sensitivity. There's a wonderful charm to that. Not everyone in the Star Wars universe should be connected. I hope so too. I hope it was something as simple and benign as Ben dumping her on Jakku because when he first turned he was just too chickenshit to kill a kid or youngling
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Dec 31, 2015 14:45
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Never forget http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Futurama-Season-06/Episode-006-Lethal-Inspection?id=1424 (0:55 for the best Futurama sith names)
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Dec 31, 2015 15:17
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TheMaestroso posted:*record skips again* Luke was also living the pastoral moisture farmer life with close family support, whereas Rey is literally fighting to survive. There's also the part where Luke uses his force powers exclusively to kill womp rats, while Rey is probably using it every day in some form to put portions on the table. This reminds me of how people bitched about Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull. It was a terrible movie, but Indy surviving a nuclear explosion in a lead-lined fridge is no more ridiculous than him jumping out of an airplane in an inflatable raft and then skiing down a mountainside in that same raft.
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Dec 31, 2015 15:33
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Fuzz posted:Please tell me you made this. No, found it in PYF. It's inevitable someone will make one.
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Dec 31, 2015 15:33
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TheMaestroso posted:*record skips again* You're forgetting overpowering a trained Jedi/Sith in mental arm-wrestling and seeing into the past. The former is especially important because Luke was presented as pretty much impotent compared to Vader in ANH.
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Dec 31, 2015 15:39
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team overhead smash posted:You're forgetting overpowering a trained Jedi/Sith in mental arm-wrestling and seeing into the past. The former is especially important because Luke was presented as pretty much impotent compared to Vader in ANH. Ren is half trained at best and not really comparable to Vader, aka Force Jesus, in that sense. Kylo Ren strikes me as the type of character who knows enough to be dangerous to himself included.
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Dec 31, 2015 15:50
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Correct, Kylo is falling apart during the entire last battle plus he's bleeding out of his guts the whole time and has no idea what to do about that compared to how Vader gets wailed on by his own super powerful son, gets his hand cut off, and is basically discarded while the Emperor starts to kill his son. But he still manages to turn back from the dark side, pick up the Emperor while being electrocuted, and then body slam him down the massive pit of death the Emperor keeps in his throne room in like ten seconds flat. Vader is basically unflappable while Ren is unstable even when things are going his way. I like him so much as a villain because of that, I like how his mask is shown as super heavy too, and how he feels barely "contained" in the scenes where he's wearing it.team overhead smash posted:You're forgetting overpowering a trained Jedi/Sith in mental arm-wrestling and seeing into the past. The former is especially important because Luke was presented as pretty much impotent compared to Vader in ANH. Until he realizes they're related in the next movies. Rey is suddenly much more powerful after her and Kylo's minds are briefly interacting, hmmm.... Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 15:58
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team overhead smash posted:You're forgetting overpowering a trained Jedi/Sith in mental arm-wrestling and seeing into the past. The former is especially important because Luke was presented as pretty much impotent compared to Vader in ANH. He's not trained(completely) Snoke literally says "We have to complete his training." Ren hadn't tried to mind gently caress anyone with any great willpower or Force sensitivity up until that point. He had essentially been putting holes in Drywall up until he tried punching the brick wall that is Rey's mind.
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Dec 31, 2015 16:03
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Luke:"Your name is Rey, Rey Palpatine" But in seriousness my nephew thinks their might be something to Rey's accent,as British=evil in star wars. though there was Obi and Mon Motha(not sure on her). Or maybe,just maybe we are finally moving beyond your race defined by the first character of your species that appears on screen or in the books. Also a podcast I listened to read the new canon books and apparently it said that Poe's parents were given a force sensitive tree and planted it in their backyard. I'm afraid this is a setup for all three new cast members becoming Jedi or at least force sensitive and hence the name of the film. Quixotic1 fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 16:06
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Rey Tarkin.
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Dec 31, 2015 16:09
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Neo Rasa posted:Rey Tarkin. Rey Ozzel
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Dec 31, 2015 16:17
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Rey Porkins
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Dec 31, 2015 16:17
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Rey Snootles
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Dec 31, 2015 16:18
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Rey Calrissian-Jade
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Dec 31, 2015 16:19
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I have been thinking of ways I would rewrite the script to this movie. -When Finn lands on Jakku, he uses a navigational aid from his stormtrooper belt to find the town. -When Han recovers the Millenium Falcon, he says that his ship's transponder broadcasted its location, which is why he found it so quickly. -Maz gives Rey some basic pointers in the Force. Obi-Wan taught Luke for a few hours in ANH, so this is enough to make Rey's abilities plausible. -Starkiller Base is less outrageous. Instead of carving that colossal canyon, the base is more like a skin, carved into the crust of the planet. -The destruction of the Republic by Starkiller is not visible from Takodana. Instead, they learn of it through the Force or through communications. -When Kylo kills Han, he doesn't whine about his emotional problems. Instead, he points out that he is responsible for too many deaths and the galaxy will never forgive him. He's in too deep to go back. -When R2 and BB8 combine their parts of the map, BB8's piece is much smaller. At least ten times smaller. -Leia accompanies Rey to visit Luke.
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Dec 31, 2015 16:20
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That sounds worse
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Dec 31, 2015 16:21
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George Lucas account spotted.
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Dec 31, 2015 16:24
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