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Rinkles posted:Has there ever been that exact card as a sorcery? Compulsive Research without the conditional discard 1? Divination is usually better yeah, since it puts you up a card and this card doesn't
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Oath of Chandra's just gonna be ETB discard 2 draw 2, on upkeep, deal X to opponent, where X is planeswalkers you control. It will also be 2 more mana than Oath of Jace. Because of course it will be. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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AlternateNu posted:loving lol. Didn't take long for the hype train to go off the rails. Wasn't it Angry Grimace who posted about adding this to the bingo card? At this point it should be the free space.
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Count Bleck posted:Oath of Chandra's just gonna be bad loot, on upkeep, deal X to opponent, where X is planeswalkers you control. Oath of Chandra is going to be Orcish Cannonade on ETB.
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Rinkles posted:Has there ever been that exact card as a sorcery? Compulsive Research without the conditional discard 1? This exact card, not that I can think of. The closest to my recollection is Dream Cache: 
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Madmarker posted:This exact card, not that I can think of. The closest to my recollection is Dream Cache: Sweet all around card.
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Niton posted:Oath of Chandra is going to be Orcish Cannonade on ETB. Somehow this is worse than I could've imagined.
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AlternateNu posted:loving lol. Didn't take long for the hype train to go off the rails. God, fire the people who do this into the goddamn sun.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:24
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Why did the price of Seance go up again
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Dec 31, 2015 20:26
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It's gone up about 25% in the last couple weeks. Why.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Why did the price of Seance go up again Because somebody felt like spending several hundreds of dollars to make a net profit of 100, before shipping and handling, and also other taxes.
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Madmarker posted:This exact card, not that I can think of. The closest to my recollection is Dream Cache: You fail for posting this card with inferior non Phil Foglio art  The funny part is that they probably wouldn't print this card because it functionally operates as Brainstorm and they seem to hate Brainstorm effects for literally any amount of mana these days. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 20:29
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Angry Grimace posted:You fail for posting this card with inferior non Phil Foglio art i need this art bigger so i can find the penis
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Lottery of Babylon posted:It's gone up about 25% in the last couple weeks. Because the dude that won the GP with Lantern Control has been brewing up Seance decks probably. TCGPlayers newsletter has a deck of the week type section and a Seance deck was listed
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Dec 31, 2015 20:34
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Foglio suuuuuucks
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Dehtraen posted:Because the dude that won the GP with Lantern Control has been brewing up Seance decks probably. TCGPlayers newsletter has a deck of the week type section and a Seance deck was listed Isn't because of that guy that bought out all the Seance for some kind of batshit moron mtgfinance scheme? Also the Lantern guy bugs me. He comes off as super-smug about how he found some deck that sucked and he used his superhuman SKILLZ to make it tournament winning tier. I mean, he's obviously a great player, but its not like he invented Hulk Footsteps or Lantern Control. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dehtraen posted:Because the dude that won the GP with Lantern Control has been brewing up Seance decks probably. TCGPlayers newsletter has a deck of the week type section and a Seance deck was listed seance works good with thragtusk, seige rhino, and a bunch of other creatures that are just better then actually playing the card Seance
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The Lord of Hats posted:God, fire the people who do this into the goddamn sun. As a relatively new magic player this poo poo is awful. I saw some of the cool pretty cheap modern eldrazi decks, and now this happens. I stumbled onto the reddit magic sections and the number of people saying the want to get into Magic for financial reasons is amazing and depressing. I just want to play cool cards that are exorbitantly priced
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Angry Grimace posted:Also the Lantern guy bugs me. He comes off as super-smug about how he found some deck that sucked and he used his superhuman SKILLZ to make it tournament winning tier. I mean, he's obviously a great player, but its not like he invented Hulk Footsteps or Lantern Control. Wait, what?
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Modern Eldrazi doesn't even play any of the old eldrazi does it how sad 
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Chairman Pow! posted:As a relatively new magic player this poo poo is awful. I saw some of the cool pretty cheap modern eldrazi decks, and now this happens. I stumbled onto the reddit magic sections and the number of people saying the want to get into Magic for financial reasons is amazing and depressing. I just want to play cool cards that are exorbitantly priced I am pretty sure that grinding MODO is a more stable and well paying sub minimum wage job than mtg finance is but I guess it requires more tangible skills
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AlternateNu posted:loving lol. Didn't take long for the hype train to go off the rails. Heh, this was just reprinted too.
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mcmagic posted:Heh, this was just reprinted too. Looking up the versions of Eye of Ugin I realized, for the first time, that it actually went down in rarity from WWK -> MM2. Has that happened with any other cards in the MM sets where it wasn't obviously for limited purposes (e.g. Feudkiller's Verdict)? I bet even with the rarity shift the supply of the worldwake version is way better 
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mandatory lesbian posted:Modern Eldrazi doesn't even play any of the old eldrazi does it
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What I can't figure out is "How does this bubble pop?" We've clearly seen that these people will hold onto their inflated price come hell or high water, and I don't think anybody (or at least, not an appreciable number of people) has a large enough chunk of their net worth in these things that they'll be forced to liquidate, so a huge drop in demand isn't going to dislodge it.
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Can we just go to Ravnica. I'm sick of Zendikar already
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The Lord of Hats posted:What I can't figure out is "How does this bubble pop?" We've clearly seen that these people will hold onto their inflated price come hell or high water, and I don't think anybody (or at least, not an appreciable number of people) has a large enough chunk of their net worth in these things that they'll be forced to liquidate, so a huge drop in demand isn't going to dislodge it. Price memory in mtg is dumb. I am pretty sure that this really only benefits the retailers who aren't going to raise their buy list prices but can raise the price floor on poo poo that nobody wants to actually buy when stuff like this happens.
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The Lord of Hats posted:What I can't figure out is "How does this bubble pop?" We've clearly seen that these people will hold onto their inflated price come hell or high water, and I don't think anybody (or at least, not an appreciable number of people) has a large enough chunk of their net worth in these things that they'll be forced to liquidate, so a huge drop in demand isn't going to dislodge it. It pops when no one buys but the seller is a fuckwit who can't accept not making a profit off of a stupid gamble so all that happens is that the supply of the card in the world has decreased.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It pops when no one buys but the seller is a fuckwit who can't accept not making a profit off of a stupid gamble so all that happens is that the supply of the card in the world has decreased. That's the opposite of it popping, no?
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I'm not lookiing forward to playing against Atarka Red decks with this new Bushwacker...
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FordCQC posted:Wait, what? He's done a couple of deck techs with various places and came off like this. During the Lantern one he stressed that not everyone is good enough to play the deck and he also said something along the lines of the deck being bad until he made it way better and said a few similar things when he played Hulk Footsteps at a different GP. Its not like I know him, he just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Rinkles posted:That's the opposite of it popping, no? A bunch of dudes who now have 5+ eye of ulamog sitting around that they won't be able to sell for more than they paid for it doesn't increase demand for eye of ulamog
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Rinkles posted:That's the opposite of it popping, no? MTG's bubbles don't pop in the traditional sense because prices only go down when reprints happen. Instead the people holding the bag are the fuckwit who caused it and anyone who made the boneheaded mistake of not knowing that fuckwit was about to go.
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mcmagic posted:Heh, this was just reprinted too. is it really 24 now or is that a graphical glitch?
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Look at the Secluded Glen price history around the time of the Bitterblossom unbanning to see it in action
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Angry Grimace posted:He's done a couple of deck techs with various places and came off like this. During the Lantern one he stressed that not everyone is good enough to play the deck and he also said something along the lines of the deck being bad until he made it way better and said a few similar things when he played Hulk Footsteps at a different GP. Its not like I know him, he just rubbed me the wrong way. Well, I mean: Lantern is not a deck that is easy to play to its fullest potential. While it is absolutely true that all decks get better with better pilots, you'll notice a larger difference as the games get grindier, because you have more opportunities to misplay.
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rabidsquid posted:A bunch of dudes who now have 5+ eye of ulamog sitting around that they won't be able to sell for more than they paid for it doesn't increase demand for eye of ulamog As long as the price is permanently affected (which, from what little I've followed this stuff, it often is), the bubble is perpetuated is all I'm getting at. rabidsquid posted:Look at the Secluded Glen price history around the time of the Bitterblossom unbanning to see it in action Exactly. It's now over 2x the pre-unbanning price despite not really seeing much more play (afaik).
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But there's not an actual increased demand for the card so it's not like anyone is benefiting from it. It's literally just price memory on a card people aren't buying.
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rabidsquid posted:But there's not an actual increased demand for the card so it's not like anyone is benefiting from it. It's literally just price memory on a card people aren't buying. I think we're in agreement.
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itll pop when #mtgfinance starts to choke out the playerbase and lose wotc money
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