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Barnyard Protein posted:i'm in netbeans 99% of the time 
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why yes i am developing netbeans plugins for a 3rd party netbeans platform that is undocumented and generally incompatible with the base platform. pls ask me about my sadbrains and active job search
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Dec 31, 2015 18:25
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Shaggar posted:lack of support for data first design and no maven are the only 2 glaring problems with Microsoft as a dev platform. the later may be universal, but its still annoying. nuget :iamafag:
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Dec 31, 2015 18:25
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eschaton posted:can't you also have the parameters and results of stored procedures be objects and have Hibernate do the translation automatically, like EOF could? yeah of course, but then you are deper into ORM land though. if you had POJOs already for the your stuff, which likely, then its not hard to tell it dump the results of your raw SQL queries into a set of those POJOs
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Dec 31, 2015 18:28
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:nuget :iamafag: Nuget 3 at least acknowledges that transitive dependencies are a thing
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Dec 31, 2015 18:30
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facebook is congratulating people on 46 years of friendship. lmao
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Dec 31, 2015 18:34
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triple sulk posted:facebook is congratulating people on 46 years of friendship. lmao lol took me a sec
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Dec 31, 2015 19:10
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i wonder how often folks born on 1/1/1970 run into weird bugs from crappy code thinking their bdate is undefined
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Dec 31, 2015 19:12
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Shaggar posted:Nuget 3 at least acknowledges that transitive dependencies are a thing nuget is rly bad compared to maven + any artifact repo
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Dec 31, 2015 19:28
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yeah i hate nuget
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Dec 31, 2015 19:28
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nuget and ef. both so bad.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:28
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is it nougat or nugget
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Dec 31, 2015 19:31
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:is it nougat or nugget
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Dec 31, 2015 19:32
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~Coxy posted:2. disagree. it is very hard to version because of a proliferation of update scripts. usually these update scripts change multiple objects as one "atomic" operation associated with smoke kind of "release". you can stick these update scripts as files in your source control but that's not very good versioning. sounds like you're doing something wrong, but it's unclear as to what with such a vague complaint. having to write update scripts manually sucks, but i don't see how it makes versioning difficult unless you're only writing update scripts and not keeping a script in source control that creates the db from scratch ~Coxy posted:3. disagree. you can't* debug it and you can't* unit test it. you can't* refactor it and you can't* see what dependencies something may have i've never found myself wanting a debugger for sql, since the sort of things that you should be doing in sql are a very good fit for debugging in a repl, and all sql servers have very good repls you unit test sql exactly the same way you unit test any other code: you set up some test data, you call your function on it, you verify that you got the result you expect, and then you throw away all your state you can factor your sql into functions, stored procedures and views
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Dec 31, 2015 20:14
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yo i gotta write a lightweight app that exposes a restful api and does a bunch of resource collection the rub is that it's queried from localhost and it has to be really fast ala vault and consul my coworkers are thinking about writing it as a node app using express for routing but i feel like something like erlang or haskell would be a better fit but idk that's why i'm a terrible programmer
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Dec 31, 2015 22:56
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I think the 'really fast' is going to come from how it's connecting to the restful stuff it's exposing. I mean if you choose a dog slow framework you'll have issues too, but provided the requests are more GET than POST & Friends your caching strategy and data store connection are probably where you need to optimise.
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Dec 31, 2015 23:11
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all requests are GET for now really i'm looking for a great way to do routing/pattern matching that doesn't add too much overhead the service is going to be hitting s3 endpoints and parsing a bunch of different files, so it's not going to be super fast, but it needs to be stable as a long-running service
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Dec 31, 2015 23:13
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node is fast and good
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Dec 31, 2015 23:13
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nodejs owns #wow #whoa
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Dec 31, 2015 23:15
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Blinkz0rz posted:yo i gotta write a lightweight app that exposes a restful api and does a bunch of resource collection be careful about proposing haskell/erlang unless your team knows those languages inside and out. first couple of projects you write in any lang are garbage coffeetable fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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Jan 1, 2016 00:10
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if i were doing it i'd do it in java with Grizzly+Jersey: https://grizzly.java.net/ Grizzly takes care of all the server/network/whatever parts, and Jersey takes care of all the routing - you just make an object and define what goes where using attributes. also its logo looks really concerned 
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Jan 1, 2016 00:19
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what do i use instead of entity framework for asp.net mvc
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Jan 1, 2016 00:20
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coffeetable posted:this sounds like premature optimization. unless you know for a fact that you need to support ridiculous request rates/data rates, just use whatever web framework your team is most comfortable in you're 100% right the more i think about it the more node (written w/ typescript of course) looks like the right way to go
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Jan 1, 2016 00:25
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Blinkz0rz posted:yo i gotta write a lightweight app that exposes a restful api and does a bunch of resource collection use asp.net webapi
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CommunistPancake posted:what do i use instead of entity framework for asp.net mvc i used dapper for my last one: https://github.com/StackExchange/dapper-dot-net
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don't use node.
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can't be asp.net webapi it's gotta run on linux and has to have a tiny footprint
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if mono or dnx was more mature and had a quicker spin-up time i'd for sure use either one
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I'm trying to port u-boot to a stupid mediatek soc and it's loving hard and stresses me out  I'm humbled, u-boot is not that big of a project (but it's the largest I've ever touched) and it appears well-organized but I'm just so confused...
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Jan 1, 2016 00:35
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Blinkz0rz posted:you're 100% right said nobody that was ever right ever!!!!
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Jan 1, 2016 00:37
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kidding on, i like node
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asp.net 5 looks complicated and full of new things and idk if i feel like learning this for an istp or if ill just poo poo it out in 4
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if it's stateless why don't you just write some python/ruby/bash script?
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:if i were doing it i'd do it in java with Grizzly+Jersey: that framework has seen some poo poo
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Jan 1, 2016 05:08
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uncurable mlady posted:that framework has seen some poo poo it's seen abstractions you can't even imagine
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I'd do it with whichever framework I'm familiar with, and recommend you do it with that one regardless of what you're familiar with as it's superior because
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Shaggar posted:yeah i hate nuget give paket a try maybe? it's basically "nuget, but a bit better" in visual studio the migration process is 1) install paket from the VS Gallery 2) tools -> paket -> "convert from nuget" -> done 
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akadajet posted:node is fast and good no
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Plorkyeran posted:1. sounds like you're doing something wrong, but it's unclear as to what with such a vague complaint. 1. lol 2. whether you do this or not makes little difference. the update scripts are the ones that are actually executed. 3. that isn't going to help when trying to debug a big sproc line by line (or block by block) 4. sure, but that's primitive as hell. you can't mock anything, for example 5. you ignore my point entirely. there are no good tools to help you refactor any of these things.
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Blinkz0rz posted:can't be asp.net webapi it's gotta run on linux and has to have a tiny footprint
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