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Rhyno posted:I never tire of the fact that they are banging on that cover. Are they, though? It sorta looks like Valiant-dude is attacking Image-chick.
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this is counter to my point that it is dumb how? (Yeah kids might be like "YEY SEX" but other than that it's just plain dumb)
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Not a counter, clarification 
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Jan 1, 2016 19:49
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Didn't that comic end valiant in the 90s? Like caused the publisher to crash.
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Jan 1, 2016 19:50
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Madkal posted:Didn't that comic end valiant in the 90s? Like caused the publisher to crash. Not really, they were around for quite a while after that before Acclaim bought them.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:90s.txt Dario the Wop posted:It's because the story was two cosmic characters (Image's Void and Valiant's Solar) meeting between dimensions and mating, thus causing the merger and eventual death of their universes. Speaking of, does anyone remember a while back, and I'm talking like 2003/2004, when Bss got Leifeld fever and created a bunch of knockoff parody characters? BLUDsHIT, BLOODHATE, Etc? I think they deserve a special maxxxi sized crossover woldshaking crisis event comic jam FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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Jan 1, 2016 21:31
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Is it me or does that one character look a LOT like Mr.Sinister?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Is it me or does that one character look a LOT like Mr.Sinister? Mr Sinister, Colossus, and a Nathan Summers clone all appear to be on that cover 
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Jan 1, 2016 22:46
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You know how Image is known for their creativity now? They were the opposite for the first 5-10 years of their existence. Aside from Savage Dragon. That was glorious and self-aware, and the analogues were actually analogues (meaning used as such) and not blatant rip-offs. Oh, and WildCATs got drat good once James Robinson and then Alan Moore started writing.
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Jan 1, 2016 23:42
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FilthyImp posted:Wow. I have to admit the economic effects of latebooks on LCS's was never made so clear to me. Yeah, it's not generally as bad these days since cancelling an order is now much easier and nobody is making orders on the level they did back then, but at the same time the margins these days are now much thinner, too. I'm sure somebody that actually knows real things about this stuff can talk about it, tho. A Tin Of Beans posted:Mr Sinister, Colossus, and a Nathan Summers clone all appear to be on that cover What, you don't recognize Ripclaw (top left), Bloodshot (right), and Battlestone (bottom right)? For shame!  (Even I had to look up a reminder on that last one, actually.)
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Jan 1, 2016 23:43
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Dario the Wop posted:Oh, and WildCATs got drat good once James Robinson and then Alan Moore started writing. All I remember about Jim Lee's One and Only WildCATS was that they were heroes, not zeroes. Tough as nails when all else fails.
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MH Knights posted:All I remember about Jim Lee's One and Only WildCATS was that they were heroes, not zeroes. Tough as nails when all else fails. I personally like that there was a stripper superhero. 
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And for some reason that clearly isn't Jim Lee being a yes-man, Voodoo got a monthly during the original New 52. They've tried to shoehorn Lee's WildCATS-verse stuff into a lot of the New 52, specifically Team 7 as multiple characters' backstory (Black Canary and Deathstroke) and Grifter being a key character in Future's End (they also took Voodoo's superpower - being able to see Daemonites - and gave it to him).
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Medullah posted:I personally like that there was a stripper superhero.
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MH Knights posted:Yeah I have a feeling a lot was changed to get WildCATS on Saturday morning TV. 20 years later and this has stuck with me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvg7tbNy5cE (go to 9:10 if my linking didn't work)
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Medullah posted:I personally like that there was a stripper superhero. More modestly-attired than Marvel's Night Cat, imo.
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Squizzle posted:More modestly-attired than Marvel's Night Cat, imo. Man, if ever there was a missed opportunity in Secret Wars ...
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I read about Stan Lee's Catwoman and wondered how often DC and Marvel have crossed over and how often writers who are thought of as mainly Marvel writers have written for DC and vice versa?
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Ultragonk posted:I read about Stan Lee's Catwoman and wondered how often DC and Marvel have crossed over and how often writers who are thought of as mainly Marvel writers have written for DC and vice versa? Well, Geoff Johns wrote for Marvel pretty much once, when he followed Kurt Busiek on Avengers. Bill Mantlo wrote for DC exactly once when he did the Invasion event in the 1980s. I think there's more writers who have been Marvel-exclusive than DC-exclusive (excepting any non-Big Two work they've done; Bendis and Hickman, for instance, have done a lot of creator-owned stuff, but as far as I'm aware they've only ever done work for Marvel in terms of the Big Two). Claremont did a little DC work in the 1990s - he had Sovereign Seven, and then he reunited with Byrne to do a JLA story arc where they fight vampires and rescue the Doom Patrol from Hell or something ("The Tenth Circle" - it wasn't very good). I think of Grant Morrison as primarily a DC writer and he's obviously done New X-Men, but not a great deal of other Marvel work. Skrull Kill Krew and Fantastic Four: 1234 are all that occurs to me off the top of my head. I also tend to think of Mark Waid as essentially a DC writer, though he's done a lot for Marvel as well.
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Bendis wrote a single Batman story. And Waid probably won't work at DC again so long as Didio is still there.
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Where does one place Kirby? He was a Marvel guy for the longest time until DC poached him. Personally, he's the Fourth World guy to me, but that's cause I haven't read a lot of early Marvel.
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Rhyno posted:20 years later and this has stuck with me Hahahaha wow I've never seen that. The inspiration for Saturday Morning Watchmen has been found!
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Morrison also wrote Marvel Boy, which introduced Noh-Varr, Dr. Midas, and Exterminatrix.Uthor posted:Where does one place Kirby?
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Rhyno posted:20 years later and this has stuck with me I love how Grifter tries being a badass Punisher clone while using a hilarious cartoon laser. A lot like the real Punisher on the Spider-Man series, come to think of it. STUN ROCKETS
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Jan 2, 2016 17:29
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"Stun Bombs" used to be a thing in Claremont's X-Men whenever he needed the team conveniently kayoed. Even though they were indistinguishable from actual bombs and still blew things the hell up. Like you do when stunning people.
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Uthor posted:Where does one place Kirby? He was a Marvel guy for the longest time until DC poached him. Personally, he's the Fourth World guy to me, but that's cause I haven't read a lot of early Marvel. He goes back to Marvel in the 70's and does Devil Dinosaur, 2001, Black Panther, and Captain America. He was pretty wild in the 70's not being tethered to Stan Lee.
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Uthor posted:Where does one place Kirby? He was a Marvel guy for the longest time until DC poached him. Personally, he's the Fourth World guy to me, but that's cause I haven't read a lot of early Marvel. You mean the artist on Green Arrow and creator of the Challengers of the Unknown who abandoned the company to go draw monster magazines across town? More seriously, Kirby went to everyone over the course of his career. Yeah, he's heavily associated with Marvel because that's where the peak of his career was, but he's not really just a "Marvel guy".
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Random Stranger posted:You mean the artist on Green Arrow and creator of the Challengers of the Unknown who abandoned the company to go draw monster magazines across town? How does one define God?
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bobkatt013 posted:How does one define God?
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Kirby and Simon's romance work (i.e., inventing the genre of romance comics) was at DC, right?
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Kirby and Simon's romance work (i.e., inventing the genre of romance comics) was at DC, right? Nope Crestwood Publications. It was later purchased by DC, but no when Kirby and Simon created romance comics.
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Is there anyway to read those easily? Because I'm hella curious about them.
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Skwirl posted:Is there anyway to read those easily? Because I'm hella curious about them. Young Romance: The Best of Simon & Kirby's Romance Comics https://www.amazon.com/dp/1606995022/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_OciIwb2ZKJ9RS
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Uthor posted:Where does one place Kirby? He was a Marvel guy for the longest time until DC poached him. Personally, he's the Fourth World guy to me, but that's cause I haven't read a lot of early Marvel. Perhaps surprisingly, Kirby's total time at DC slightly edges out his total time at Marvel, with 16 years vs 15 years. Together, however, his time at Marvel and DC only accounts for about two-thirds of his career. The rest was spent at companies like Harvey, Hillman, Fawcett, Fox, Prize (aka Crestwood), and Pacific.
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Benito Cereno posted:Perhaps surprisingly, Kirby's total time at DC slightly edges out his total time at Marvel, with 16 years vs 15 years. Together, however, his time at Marvel and DC only accounts for about two-thirds of his career. The rest was spent at companies like Harvey, Hillman, Fawcett, Fox, Prize (aka Crestwood), and Pacific. He also put together the Kirbyverse stuff for Topps (did the covers for the #1s) and the first two issues of Phantom Force for Image.
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WickedHate posted:I love how Grifter tries being a badass Punisher clone while using a hilarious cartoon laser. A lot like the real Punisher on the Spider-Man series, come to think of it. My all time favourite thing about the 90's Spider-man series is how they did the Punisher. Up to and including the computer warning for when he picks up a gun and the "Warning: Lethal Ordinance " goes off. And I mean that un-irronically.
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How good a storyline is the House of M story? I've lined up Planet Hulk to read next and it looks really good so I was thinking of reading either House of M or Civil War next.
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Ultragonk posted:How good a storyline is the House of M story? I've lined up Planet Hulk to read next and it looks really good so I was thinking of reading either House of M or Civil War next. It's good. The main book is neat, and the Spider-Man tie in was pretty cool
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Civil War is horrendous though, run fast and far. Or if you insist on reading, make a fun party game out of it by counting all the ways the SHRA is unconstitutional.
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CapnAndy posted:Civil War is horrendous though, run fast and far. Yeah, the best way to read Civil War is to take it not at all seriously, because it's awfully stupid.
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