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Jan 1, 2016 20:35
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After looking over my scum ships, I feel like I could get some good trolling mileage out of this. Eon Azzameen Ion cannon Bombardier Hot Shot Blaster Slave I title Proximity mines Extra munitions N'dru Suhlak Veteran Instincts Hot shot Blaster Munition Failsafe 2x Black Sun Soldiers 96/100 Emon can drop a bomb using any of the speed 3 templates, or the straight templates for speeds 1 and 2, while N'dru is throwing 4 turret dice (and gets to keep throwing them if they don't hit anything, and he isn't near anyone) with the other 2 Zs hanging around the Firespray. Is it good? Probably not, but I think it looks like fun. I could blow 4 more points to put cluster missiles on N'dru and have him throw 8 dice one turn (in range 1-2 with a target lock), but that's an expensive Z-95 that will get a gigantic bullseye painted on it right quick.
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Jan 1, 2016 20:38
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Deviant posted:
I am going to trade for these until I have enough to equip entire flights of TIE bombers for epic play, and will never ever call them by their correct name.
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Jan 1, 2016 20:42
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Major Isoor posted:Oh wow, there looks to be a Gonk droid coming with Dengar's pack! Now all I need is an Imperial-only mouse droid crew member and I'm satisfied! Holy crap you're right! I wasn't expecting that droid to ever show up, but it's neat that he does, just because it's another iconic piece of the universe. It looks like it's going to be named "Gonk" and a unique. so I guess this is the original Gonk. I'm curious what it does. (According to Wookiepedia they're walking batteries). Panzeh posted:So, i'm wondering if the generic Tie Adv. Prototype might be better than the FO. 16 points is excellent value.
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Jan 1, 2016 20:52
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Interesting. I didn't know Gonk was a walking battery, but I'm willing to bet his ability might explain the 3 extra shield tokens The Punishing One comes with.
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Jan 1, 2016 21:21
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So, I have a tournament tomorrow, but I'm still a major noob. I was thinking of something like this: Captain Oicunn (42) Daredevil (3) Ysanne Isard (4) Rebel Captive (3) Mara Jade (3) Engine Upgrade (4) Dauntless (2) Captain Yorr (24) Enhanced Scopes (1) Heavy Laser Cannon (7) Intelligence Agent (1) Tactician (2) Ion Projector (2) Total: 98 View in Yet Another Squad Builder I don't have Wingman upgrades, so I'm trying to use Yorr as a stress magnet for Oicunn. Without an Ace or something, though, my gut reaction is that a Poe list will rip right through this. The issue there is that I have no Autothrusters. Or maybe I should just bring two generic TIE/fo and just not worry about soaking stress off Oicunn?
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Jan 1, 2016 21:21
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He's a power generator no?
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Jan 1, 2016 21:33
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It really feels to me like Imperial big ships just don't have the survivability of Rebel ones; without some small ships to screen for them these will just get eaten alive.LingcodKilla posted:He's a power generator no? Much the same difference in practice. I was thinking Gonk would probably do something with shields, but it's also worth noting that there's a Salvaged Astro in there which is named Over____ Astr____ and has been theorised to be overclocking astromech, which might also explain the extra shields.
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Jan 1, 2016 21:40
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You mean that they don't have the survivability of the millennium falcon. I find the YT-2400 tends to go pretty quickly and is equivalent of the firespray. The shuttle is way cheap and pretty survivable for its cost. The Decimator tends to go down to TLTs and that's it, but that is somewhat an issue with the millennium falcon as well
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Jan 1, 2016 21:49
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I've found the Decimator to basically melt under the assault of almost anything unless you put a lot into its survivability, and you're really not doing that when you're intending to ram people. And shuttles have terrible survivability IME. The YT2400 dies quickly unless it's superdash and it arcdodges everything. Still dies to higher PS though.
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Jan 1, 2016 21:52
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The shuttle does blow up, but you have to think that it has twice the HP of an x-wing for the same cost and one less agility. Of course it is going to blow up but for the price it is pretty resilient.
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Jan 1, 2016 21:55
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Tekopo posted:The shuttle does blow up, but you have to think that it has twice the HP of an x-wing for the same cost and one less agility. Of course it is going to blow up but for the price it is pretty resilient. I've often wanted, just for laughs, to field a 4x shuttle list, each with a different upgrade. Fleet officer for one, one with tactician, sensor jammer for another maybe. That kind of thing. Course I'd have to own four shuttles and lol
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Jan 1, 2016 22:10
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Well, that's pretty much what I was thinking on Oicunn + Yorr. Maybe I ought to do something like this: Poe Dameron (31) Push the Limit (3) BB-8 (2) Weapons Guidance (2) Miranda Doni (29) Twin Laser Turret (6) Recon Specialist (3) Advanced SLAM (2) Jake Farrell (24) Chardaan Refit (-2) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder
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Jan 1, 2016 23:07
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ConfusedUs posted:I've often wanted, just for laughs, to field a 4x shuttle list, each with a different upgrade. Fleet officer for one, one with tactician, sensor jammer for another maybe. That kind of thing. One of my assorted list ideas for Ramming Speed Oicunn was him + 2 Ion Cannon Shuttles, but I play with friends who own everything, so I use their wangs, and they, being sensible individuals, refuse to own a second shuttle 
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Jan 1, 2016 23:22
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The biggest problem I've found with the shuttle is that it just can't turn. It makes a great first impression, but then it shows its spacebutt to everyone for most of the game as it slowly lumbers around - made even worse if you don't stomp all over the asteroids that will be in your path. I find Anti-Pursuit is important for it, if just because when someone inevitably starts harassing your boat you can hit the brakes and make them bump you a bunch. It's always hilarious to put Expert Handling on a shuttle though.
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Jan 2, 2016 01:04
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WFGuy posted:The biggest problem I've found with the shuttle is that it just can't turn. It makes a great first impression, but then it shows its spacebutt to everyone for most of the game as it slowly lumbers around - made even worse if you don't stomp all over the asteroids that will be in your path. I find Anti-Pursuit is important for it, if just because when someone inevitably starts harassing your boat you can hit the brakes and make them bump you a bunch. You can turn reasonably well if you do advanced sensors + engine upgrade, but that's seven whole points predicated on the off chance you don't die on the first pass.
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Jan 2, 2016 01:11
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Sorry for all the noob questions but I'm going to throw in some cash on the imperial faction now. Must have expansions after the starters? I was going to grab the aces, TIE expansion for Howlrunner and the Decimator but I'm not sure what else to grab.
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Jan 2, 2016 01:33
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TKIY posted:Sorry for all the noob questions but I'm going to throw in some cash on the imperial faction now. Tie interceptor is nice off the bat too.
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Jan 2, 2016 01:43
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TKIY posted:Sorry for all the noob questions but I'm going to throw in some cash on the imperial faction now. I think I'd take the Shuttle over the Decimator for a must have, since you can run an Omicron Group Pilot w/ Vader with just that expansion. The Decimator likes to have a lot of upgrade cards, which you may or may not have (I don't know!). Aces is good, but Soontir comes in the Interceptor pack, so I'd grab that as well.
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Jan 2, 2016 01:43
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I haven't played X-Wing in months, but my son (11) and I decided to dust off our ships after seeing Force Awakens yesterday. We just finished a 95 point game. He had that Tie-Phantom ship with mods and pilot adding up to about forty points. Turn one, we went towards each other, turn two, he ended up in 2-range of Wedge Antilles and a rookie x-wing pilot, both of whom had target locks on him. Wedge had swarm tactics. Hes now in his room quietly crying and my wife is giving me that look. What a great game.
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Jan 2, 2016 02:10
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I thought Soontir was in the aces box, good to know. I do have a shuttle already, and a Defender because they look awesome. Same reason I want the Decimator 
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Jan 2, 2016 02:10
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The Dregs posted:I haven't played X-Wing in months, but my son (11) and I decided to dust off our ships after seeing Force Awakens yesterday. We just finished a 95 point game. He had that Tie-Phantom ship with mods and pilot adding up to about forty points. Turn one, we went towards each other, turn two, he ended up in 2-range of Wedge Antilles and a rookie x-wing pilot, both of whom had target locks on him. Wedge had swarm tactics. You monster.
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Jan 2, 2016 02:47
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So some nice family members gave me some Christmas/birthday X-wing presents and I now have a flight of four T-70s in my collection. Since I'm still pretty noobish about the game, I'm wondering if it's worthwhile to take the Blue Squadron Novices? There's just enough in a 100 point game to take three with Blue Ace backing them up. So what I'm wondering is how viable that list is? I'm used to running just a few ships (due to limits of what I have available) loaded to the gills with gear to total close to 100 pts. Are there any good tricks to running really low pilot skill ships like the Novices?
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Jan 2, 2016 02:48
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The Dregs posted:I haven't played X-Wing in months, but my son (11) and I decided to dust off our ships after seeing Force Awakens yesterday. We just finished a 95 point game. He had that Tie-Phantom ship with mods and pilot adding up to about forty points. Turn one, we went towards each other, turn two, he ended up in 2-range of Wedge Antilles and a rookie x-wing pilot, both of whom had target locks on him. Wedge had swarm tactics. wow you loving suck dude
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Jan 2, 2016 02:57
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The Dregs posted:I haven't played X-Wing in months, but my son (11) and I decided to dust off our ships after seeing Force Awakens yesterday. We just finished a 95 point game. He had that Tie-Phantom ship with mods and pilot adding up to about forty points. Turn one, we went towards each other, turn two, he ended up in 2-range of Wedge Antilles and a rookie x-wing pilot, both of whom had target locks on him. Wedge had swarm tactics. 
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Jan 2, 2016 03:07
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I suggest a new strategy...let the kiddie win
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Jan 2, 2016 03:08
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Holybat posted:So some nice family members gave me some Christmas/birthday X-wing presents and I now have a flight of four T-70s in my collection. Since I'm still pretty noobish about the game, I'm wondering if it's worthwhile to take the Blue Squadron Novices? There's just enough in a 100 point game to take three with Blue Ace backing them up. Swarms are all about raw numbers you get down the left for the points you spend. The rebel swarm is BBBBZ. Just looking at the 4 Bs, 22 points gets you 3 red dice, 1 green die, 3 hull and 5 shields. The T-70, for 2 points more, gets you 3 red dice, 2 green dice, 3 hull and 3 shields. So +1 Green Die, -2 Shields. Trades a guaranteed 2 extra hits for a higher chance of rolling an evade. The golden standard of abilities is modifying dice, implicitly or explicitly. Poe can modify every roll he takes, making it a great ability. The Blue Ace isn't bad by any means, but it's not what I'd call a good ability. I'd say swap the Ace for another Blue Squad Novice, put an R5/R2 Astromech and Integrated Astromech on all 4 of the ships.
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Jan 2, 2016 03:19
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Getting owned by dad builds character!
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Jan 2, 2016 03:23
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ghetto wormhole posted:Getting owned by dad builds character! If there's a lesson to be learned from the Star Wars franchise, it is this.
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Jan 2, 2016 03:30
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The Dregs posted:I haven't played X-Wing in months, but my son (11) and I decided to dust off our ships after seeing Force Awakens yesterday. We just finished a 95 point game. He had that Tie-Phantom ship with mods and pilot adding up to about forty points. Turn one, we went towards each other, turn two, he ended up in 2-range of Wedge Antilles and a rookie x-wing pilot, both of whom had target locks on him. Wedge had swarm tactics. No. That's not true! That's impossible!
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Jan 2, 2016 03:46
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EVGA Longoria posted:Swarms are all about raw numbers you get down the left for the points you spend. OK I should note I'm pretty new to this game. What is the BBBBZ? Get down the left? Also, now that this got brought up, but I read in the OP to proxy cards that you don't have so I'll have to do that for one of the Integrated Astromechs and the R2/R5 units. What's the preferred method for this? Just post-its with the names/ability of the cards, or do folks do something else?
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Jan 2, 2016 04:10
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BBBBZ is 4 bwings and one 795. So four blue squadrons and a bandit squad
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Jan 2, 2016 04:21
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Pictures of all the cards are available readily online, on the wiki and even in a lot of the articles ffg puts out so you could print them if you want. Alternatively you could just use an online list builder and just print out the list so it is obvious what everything has. Those two options are good if you and your opponents don't know what most things do yet. I usually just tell my opponents that x ship has y upgrade before the game starts and they go "okay" and we get down to playing. Unless you are flying a really complicated list, like 6 tie aces that all have different upgrades it isn't too hard to keep track of things. In the case of your 4 X-Wings it is easy enough to just say they are all the same. You don't even need to use a token for the 4th integrated astromech because you have to discard the r2 unit when you trigger the ability so it is obvious when you have already used it.
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Jan 2, 2016 04:30
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I didn't think it was gonna happen, really. I didn't read his card beforehand, I thought it was a lot tougher than it actually was. I offered to restart the game because it wouldn't be too much fun after a fluke like that, but the tears were already beginning to flow, lol. If you let your kids win all the time they grow up to be furries or anime fans. gently caress that. Also,that's my first time using Swarm tactics. That thing is pretty mean with Wedge.
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Jan 2, 2016 05:34
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Holybat posted:OK I should note I'm pretty new to this game. What is the BBBBZ? Get down the left? BBBBZ is the typical Rebel swarm. It's 4 B-Wing Blue Squadron Pilot and 1 Bandit Squadron Pilot in a Z95 Headhunter. The numbers down the left refer to the 4 numbers on the left side of the card - the attack dice, defense dice, hull and shield points. Swarms aren't fancy, and don't count on an individual pilot being useful. They count on an overwhelming number of attack dice, and enough hit points (body+hull) to stay on the board for a while. You sly them in formation so their fields of fire overlap, and just throw 12 red dice every turn at one or two targets. As for proxies, it's pretty open. For casual use, my preference is to basically print out a squad list defining each ship, its abilities/stats, and the individual cards on it. It makes it easy to make changes to the list. You can also print nice, photo-quality images on card stock at size. There's a lot of options, find what feels good to you.
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Jan 2, 2016 05:36
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Anyone tried these for storing mini cards? http://www.makeplayingcards.com/design/mini-cards-box.html Window lets you see what type is in the box, I suppose? Really just need to wait for the mini card pages to come out, I guess. Throw them in a binder with my full size pilot cards. Deviant fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Jan 2, 2016 05:59
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Deviant posted:Anyone tried these for storing mini cards? Just use business card binder sheets if you're gonna throw them in a 3-ring binder. Sure, they're a little too big, but I do this. I got enough sheets for like 400 cards for $5.
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Jan 2, 2016 06:06
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ConfusedUs posted:Just use business card binder sheets if you're gonna throw them in a 3-ring binder. This is what I did, and I've got every single card for both Armada and X-Wing in a single notebook. Came out to like $15 total for notebook+card sleeves, and I've still got some extra space to go before running out.
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Jan 2, 2016 08:10
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The Dregs posted:I didn't think it was gonna happen, really. I didn't read his card beforehand, I thought it was a lot tougher than it actually was. I offered to restart the game because it wouldn't be too much fun after a fluke like that, but the tears were already beginning to flow, lol. If you let your kids win all the time they grow up to be furries or anime fans. gently caress that. Also,that's my first time using Swarm tactics. That thing is pretty mean with Wedge. Yeah, but if you beat them all the time they end up wearing came pants to weddings and flying the Southern Cross(even if you live in New Hampshire) you gotta strike a balance, man.
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What's the verdict on the best battlemat for x-wang? I've seen a few at various prices but I'd like to hear what the thread's preferred option is.
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