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computer parts posted:This won't happen, because the specific scenario you need to happen is for either the legislature to refuse to consider gun control legislation or for the courts to strike down every opportunity, while also having the popular support to specifically say "the only thing we can do is repeal an amendment". Right. DC v Heller was 5-4, as was McDonald v Chicago. If any of Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, or Kennedy get replaced by a liberal justice you'd likely see a 5-4 decision voiding Heller and returning jurisprudence to where it was previous with ownership of a firearm not being an individual right. If opinion swings hard enough we might see a case declaring that the 2nd only prevents the Federal Govt banning firearms for officially organized militias such as the state National Guard or police forces, essentially rendering it meaningless to the average person.
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Sir Tonk posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/las-vegas-cop-couple-wakes-up-and-accidentally-fires-27-rounds-at-mother-who-lives-with-them/ Police officers are above the law, why is this news?
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Married to a cop, and in the academy. He's just as untouchable as she is.
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GalacticAcid posted:Almost every Democrat who has won a statewide election in a red state in recent years has been pro-gun. Disagree (on the last part) http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx The majority of voters (from a poll in 2013 for disclosure) would vote for a law that would require background checks, ban assault weapons, and limit ammunition magazine capacity. 55% of voters in 2015 would like stricter gun control laws, compared to 33% who don't want changes and a mere 11% who want less strict laws. Gun control is a losing fight in most electoral races for the same reason that Republicans currently control the majority of state and local offices: voter apathy. You mostly have two groups, the older, more conservative, heavily pro-gun crowd who will vote mostly R in every election they can get their hands on, from the President to the local alderman. Then you have the younger, more liberal, less pro-gun crowd who won't give a gently caress and will vote in Presidential elections nearly exclusively. When a candidate from any party wants to become a senator/representative/governor, they need to start appealing more towards that older, more conservative demographic because honestly, that's the only group that's really voting. This is why you have plenty of Dems sitting on the other side for many issues. This is not even starting to mention the effect of millions of dollars pro-gun groups bring in, absolutely demolishing any other anti-gun group's efforts. I hate to sound like a lot of people I would make fun of when they use this argument, but really this is an issue about voter apathy and turnout. I believe that the polls show a majority of voters care about gun control in a meaningful way. I'm not sure if they would make it their absolute #1 voting criteria, but if a Presidential candidate pushed for additional gun control measures they at the very least wouldn't suffer a net electoral loss.
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That's a reasonable analysis and I hope it turns out to be the case. In other important news, 
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Shifty Pony posted:Right. DC v Heller was 5-4, as was McDonald v Chicago. If any of Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, or Kennedy get replaced by a liberal justice you'd likely see a 5-4 decision voiding Heller and returning jurisprudence to where it was previous with ownership of a firearm not being an individual right. If opinion swings hard enough we might see a case declaring that the 2nd only prevents the Federal Govt banning firearms for officially organized militias such as the state National Guard or police forces, essentially rendering it meaningless to the average person. Don't forget that the NRA packed the Judicial Committee as well to ensure that they'd get judges friendly to their views picked.
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Congratulations to Texas on its new open carry law.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Congratulations to Texas on its new open carry law. Is that...is that...?
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mdemone posted:Is that...is that...? Yes. Yes.
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Epic High Five posted:Mostly people blame nothing because they try not to think about it They don't need the right wingers to be behind said candidate, they just need them to not put forth a 3rd party option because wingnuts will march to the polls and vote en masse for Jeb!? at the end of the day since it means not letting a Dem win.
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Technical Analysis posted:Married to a cop, and in the academy. He's just as untouchable as she is. I wonder who her code 2 is?
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computer parts posted:I think what people are saying is that the single issue anti-gun control people are already radicalized against the Dems. I'm not worried about the single issue anti-gun control people. I'm worried about the people who have gun control issues as one of a variety of major points. All you have to do is hit those points in the right way and you peel off some voters. I know it is only one, but Cosmobot posted this poll and it is concerning.
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But is the round CHAMBERED HUH 'CLIP' boy?! Safety is off hahah
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computer parts posted:I think what people are saying is that the single issue anti-gun control people are already radicalized against the Dems. Take a page from the anti-abortion folks and make a bunch of signs with pictures of shot up elementary school kids on them.
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It was already legal to open carry rifles and shotguns, the new law allows for open carry of handguns.
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Nonsense posted:But is the round CHAMBERED HUH 'CLIP' boy?! Keeping his powder dry 
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SedanChair posted:It was already legal to open carry rifles and shotguns, the new law allows for open carry of handguns. Somehow that didn't improve my mood on it.
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I'm excited for Texas because I want to see where this goes. While the idea of random shootings and other stupid poo poo (the "good guy" picking up his shells comes to mind) seems possible, I'm leaning towards "nothing".
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He probably has an empty chamber and the safety off so he can do the mr. tactical underhand chambering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvb2Sqvq34M
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I really do wonder what it's like going through life scared shitless of everything around yourself and having a baby dick. I probably work with at least 10 of that guy. I own a few guns but still don't get the loving reverence for them.
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 ALART http://conservativetribune.com/armed-gangs-black-panthers/ Texas is besieged, send help!
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Is the courthouse still a liberal pansy holdout and I can't bring any of my rifles in there?
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Logikv9 posted:Disagree (on the last part) I think it would be better to look at the Guns Historical Trend page for Gallup. It has nice breakdowns on questions they have asked over the years leading up to the latest results from October 17th, 2015. The takeaway I get from looking at the numbers is that Americans want stricter gun control measures, but want to be able to own any type of gun if they want. The issue seems clear cut, but underneath people hold, surprise surprise, contradicting and complicated opinions. It is a quagmire issue.
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Nonsense posted:
YES FINALLY I wish I wasn't in Indiana, I'd rent a gun or something and join them
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Astounding. 
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Popular Thug Drink posted:wow you can't get more blantantly "rights for whites" than that article The comments are rather insightful though. Why would you want their brillo pad scalps hanging on your wall as trophies? Excellent question good sir.
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http://koin.com/2014/10/07/man-practicing-open-carry-law-robbed-of-gun/quote:A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.  edit Nostalgia4Infinity posted:There is no way this isn't a parody. http://realorsatire.com/conservativetribune-com/ Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:There is no way this isn't a parody. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvW_zBvJlsA With a hint of: http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/2015/...ferguson-march/ Sir Tonk posted:http://koin.com/2014/10/07/man-practicing-open-carry-law-robbed-of-gun/ This is what I tried to drive home a thousand times in pharmacy. It doesn't matter if you have a gun if theirs is already in your face
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fknlo posted:The comments are rather insightful though. Why would you want their brillo pad scalps hanging on your wall as trophies? Excellent question good sir. Linking comments sections to facebook accounts is my favorite internet news evolution of the past like five years.
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"The Huey P. Newton Gun Club (really? You couldn’t even use H. Rap Brown or Stokely Carmichael as a namesake?) has been conducting armed drills in Dallas for some time now." I am so pleased the conservative tribune has delivered this to us!
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Suddenly everything is "paramilitary" and "armed drills." It's like they turned into Daily Kos.
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Epic High Five posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvW_zBvJlsA Sooooo, there was a massive lawsuit following this right?
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GalacticAcid posted:Lol the whole thing is just right wing Upworthy. I can't breathe. I also saw a "This one trick will get you a girlfriend every time"
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Sir Tonk posted:Sooooo, there was a massive lawsuit following this right? Lol yeah, in another timeline maybe Dude is lucky to be alive in this one Btw he never got that gun back
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